Does Anyone Here Teach The Following?

[ForthAngel]

Put John 3:16 in context for me plz. Why does whosoever not mean what it says? Why does believe not mean what it says?

It means what it says. Whosoever. Context will define the whosoever. Look at the whole of scripture. John 10, Jesus lays his life down for the sheep. Jesus died for many Hebrews 9. All that the Father gives to Jesus will come to him, John 6. No one can come to him unless the Father draws them, John 6. Many are called, few are chosen, Matthew 22. One must be born again to see the kingdom John 3. One must be born, not of human will, but of God, John 1. God will have mercy and whom he wills and harden whom he wills, Romans 9.

I don't have time to do full exegesis because I have to leave, but I will try and remember to do it when I get back if you're still interested. I won't be long. Pm me a a reminder if it's important to you. Also, you could search for my posts at the top of this thread and see everything I've had to say about it already.

 

[Magenta]

I see quite a few people calling our brother ForthAngel "Fourth." Why?

 

[Depleted]

Hi Ariel,

I think you may mean Beyond. He's the one that talked about boasting if you go around and claim to be one of the elect.

Ohhhh! Thank you. Because I only saw PennEd say two things and couldn't figure out what I was missing.

 

[preacher4truth]

Sniping at you? I responded to you. Biblical context is not my context. It's context foundationally laid out by scripture itself.

So, now, if one is Reformed and answers a post it is "sniping" and lying, as long as it is from them isn't lying. LOL!!!

 

[kaylagrl]

But do you agree that the Bible says that only few are chosen?

You do not belive that the rest will be "destroyed" in hell? Are you universalist?

Nope not a universalist,another false accusation being thrown around. Yes,few find the path,but not because they were not elected. Called and elected are two different things. And I believe that those that choose not to believe choose hell for themselves because they will not obey,as the Bible says.

 

[stonesoffire]

I see quite a few people calling our brother ForthAngel "Fourth." Why?

Dementia maybe? lol

 

[ForthAngel]

I see quite a few people calling our brother ForthAngel "Fourth." Why?

Everyone thinks I misspelled my name. LOL. Has happened since I got here. It's supposed to be a play on words. I guess I shoulda went with something else. Kinda stuck with it now though.

 

[trofimus]

Ummm are you answering for Fourth? Cause he doesn't like that. I myself dont mind.

So you believe that anyone can call on the name of the Lord and be saved? Any sinner,drawn by the Holy Spirit can believe on the Lord and be saved? We agree on this verse?

Well, I am from the similar "camp" as Forth, so I think he does not mind if I sometimes respond to something directed to him. I would say he is more systematic and I am more mixed with some other views, but still the core is similar.

The verse says:
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

And I believe what the verse says. Do you believe the verse about few being chosen?

 

[Magenta]

Dementia maybe? lol

Heh, most of 'em are younger than we are

 

[ForthAngel]

Well, I am from the similar "camp" as Fourth, so I think he does not mind if I sometimes respond to something directed to him. I would say he is more systematic and I am more mixed with some other views, but still the core is similar.

The verse says:
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

And I believe what the verse says. Do you believe the verse about few being chosen?

I don't mind if anyone responds. I thought Kayla had taken my comment personally that was directed at someone else. That's why I was making it clear the comment wasn't to her.

 

[Magenta]

Everyone thinks I misspelled my name. LOL. Has happened since I got here. It's supposed to be a play on words. I guess I shoulda went with something else. Kinda stuck with it now though.

I like your name, it is fine Sally forth and conquer the world

 

[ForthAngel]

Nope not a universalist,another false accusation being thrown around. Yes,few find the path,but not because they were not elected. Called and elected are two different things. And I believe that those that choose not to believe choose hell for themselves because they will not obey,as the Bible says.

He asked you a question. He didn't accuse.

 

[trofimus]

Nope not a universalist,another false accusation being thrown around. Yes,few find the path,but not because they were not elected. Called and elected are two different things. And I believe that those that choose not to believe choose hell for themselves because they will not obey,as the Bible says.

Question is not accusation.

So do we agree that few are chosen (thats what the Bible says and nothing from me)?

Do we also agree that nonbelievers will end in hell?

 

[preacher4truth]

...And what about the Not By Works thread?

That thread doesn't count because he's been arguing and quarreling in it perpetually, those kinds of facts are not permitted when it shows the persons duplicity. Real evidence is not allowed here!

 

[kaylagrl]

It means what it says. Whosoever. Context will define the whosoever. Look at the whole of scripture. John 10, Jesus lays his life down for the sheep. Jesus died for many Hebrews 9. All that the Father gives to Jesus will come to him, John 6. No one can come to him unless the Father draws them, John 6. Many are called, few are chosen, Matthew 22. One must be born again to see the kingdom John 3. One must be born, not of human will, but of God, John 1. God will have mercy and whom he wills and harden whom he wills, Romans 9.

I don't have time to do full exegesis because I have to leave, but I will try and remember to do it when I get back if you're still interested. I won't be long. Pm me a a reminder if it's important to you. Also, you could search for my posts at the top of this thread and see everything I've had to say about it already.

No,no we dont have to go round the circle again. My point has been made concerning sharing Scripture. Whosoever will and all the world,doesn't mean what it says. The sheep are those sinners that believe. Lets not go round again. The point is made,no use to post verses.

 

[Laish]

I see quite a few people calling our brother ForthAngel "Fourth." Why?

Because we ( at least me )are lazy readers thanks for pointing that out. I don't notice ( face palms himself) .
Blessings
Bill

 

[kaylagrl]

I see quite a few people calling our brother ForthAngel "Fourth." Why?

Just a quick way to answer. If I knew his name and he didn't mind Id use it.

 

[stonesoffire]

Heh, most of 'em are younger than we are

I made a post to him once and couldn't remember the second part of the name. When I looked, I was surprised. Angel isn't what I would call any of us.
We got a long way to go babies. lol

 

[Laish]

Dementia maybe? lol

I hope not ,but I won't completely rule it out. In my case .
Blessings
Bill

 

[kaylagrl]

So, now, if one is Reformed and answers a post it is "sniping" and lying, as long as it is from them isn't lying. LOL!!!

He was sniping because when I answered a post he said it wasn't addressed to me. That is why I said that so you can stop stirring the pot. Someone just answered a post I addressed to Fourth, people do that all the time and its not against CC rules. I didnt say he lied so stop it.