Does anyone else here find it ironic that a moniker follow"jesus" believes this Christ ("jesus") to be created? That this would also imply idolatry because all idols and false gods are created?
So we're to follow a creation, a creature (follow"jesus")? Let that sink in for a second. This doesn't seem to mince well with "...and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen." Romans 1:25, which certainly if you think about it makes a necessary and dogmatic distinction between Christ and creation.
So we're to follow a creation, a creature (follow"jesus")? Let that sink in for a second. This doesn't seem to mince well with "...and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen." Romans 1:25, which certainly if you think about it makes a necessary and dogmatic distinction between Christ and creation.
john 17:6 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Seems as if Jesus the Son of God, was with him before the World was...possibly
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: ....was God talking to Himself? or is it possible that He may be speaking to Jesus, His Only begotten at the creation?
im good with criticisms n all, but keep it to something i have actually said
colossians 1:13-Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Sort of seems Like God His Father, Gave Jesus His Son, the inheritance or something...hmmm
john 3:31-36 "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. 32And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. 33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Possibly maybe God sent His only begotten Son to save the World??? and to testify to the truth that He heard from God maybe? and its pretty important to accept that God Has a son??
john 8:40 "But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
why would God have to tell Himself the truth ??? seems pretty complex why he would need to Hear from Himself, and then speak what He heard to the world. Maybe He is talking about the things He saw and Hear in Heaven before the world began while in the presence of God possibly?
john 8:38 "I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father."
it seems like maybe Jesus is Gods Son, and was before the world began, it does also seem Like He is the Son of God, noit God the Father.....