America will not repent

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stonesoffire

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God is very interested in nations. And all nations has a god..Thailand, Japan has many which boggled my mind when I was following a teacher of English on periscope. I thought only Buddha, but there are many gods.

Our nation is founded on the Jewish God YHWH, and doesn't promote other gods.

There are spirits trying to make this a melting pot...just like in England.

Be care full of what you are listening to. We don't force anyone to worship...but a nation that has changed their God for another that isn't is an abomination to the Lord.

It's scripture.

Clarifying...the teacher in Thailand teaches English.
 
GOP

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Just wait and see what will happen......
Evil must be exposed and homosexuality is evil.
 
Dude653

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serpentdove said:
Are you a Sodomite?


The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14]
heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).
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you're insane
seek help
 
serpentdove

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Yeraza_Bats said:
[The Bible's Criminal Code by Bob Enyart] ...[T]he Gospel is that Jesus died for our sins, that whoever believes in Him will be saved. It has nothing to do with enforcing laws on anyone o_O
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The gospel is the bible from cover to cover (Neh. 8:3, Rom. 9:6, Col. 1:25–27).

Yeraza_Bats said:
Are you really a Christian? Cuz you kinda put off some undercover "Im gonna expose them for who they really are" kinda trolls.
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Eph 5:11
Yeraza_Bats said:
Hate to sound mean but you're on a pretty hard crusade here...
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Catholics not Christians murder Jews and believers.


See:

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Yeraza_Bats said:
Re 22:11
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Let the inmates run the asylum.
Lk 19:13
 
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Meggido

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The notion that the conservatives stand up for Christian values is only about getting your vote.

The evil manifesting in our world is not a political party issue, it is a Spiritual issue. Christians in the USA need to wake up to the fact that we re not going to be immune from what is coming down.

The USA is not and never has been a theocracy, there was only 1 and that was Israel during the time of Samuel the Prophet, right up until the nation begged for a King and Go gave them Saul.

Some of you act like this is so terrible...Wake up and read your Bibles, Paul had the same issues in his day, nothing new is under the sun, except for selective outrage among self professed Christians.

Did you really think the end of the age is going to not have evil manifest and be in your face? The Christians in Paul's day got it and overcame and continued in the faith and got eaten by lions for that faith...how about you!?

There is a time coming in the USA that people are going to have to make a life or death choice, be with the Lord or be gone.
 
Dude653

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Meggido said:
The notion that the conservatives stand up for Christian values is only about getting your vote.

The evil manifesting in our world is not a political party issue, it is a Spiritual issue. Christians in the USA need to wake up to the fact that we re not going to be immune from what is coming down.

The USA is not and never has been a theocracy, there was only 1 and that was Israel during the time of Samuel the Prophet, right up until the nation begged for a King and Go gave them Saul.

Some of you act like this is so terrible...Wake up and read your Bibles, Paul had the same issues in his day, nothing new is under the sun, except for selective outrage among self professed Christians.

Did you really think the end of the age is going to not have evil manifest and be in your face? The Christians in Paul's day got it and overcame and continued in the faith and got eaten by lions for that faith...how about you!?

There is a time coming in the USA that people are going to have to make a life or death choice, be with the Lord or be gone.
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Theocracy is tyranny
 
Yeraza_Bats

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serpentdove said:
The gospel is the bible from cover to cover (Neh. 8:3, Rom. 9:6, Col. 1:25–27).
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Well, I know one of the biggest teachings I took from the Gospel is "he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Knowing that Im guilty of the sin myself, Id rather see people come to Him and repent, much more than Id like to see Christians taking action against them.

Eph 5:11
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Ephesians 5:11 11Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

And you take from my post that I dont agree with this? : p I made my stance pretty clear, Christians should have the right to say wrong is wrong, and others should have the right to make their own choices.
If you see that as I believe homosexuality is good and we should support it, then you have really misunderstood what I have said : p

Its more about you and how it appears you are trying hard to get Christians to agree that active homosexuals should be thrown into jail.

Catholics not Christians murder Jews and believers.


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I didnt accuse you of killing anybody.


Let the inmates run the asylum.
Lk 19:13
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Im not really sure how this reflects the verse I posted?
Luke 19:13 13So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas. 'Put this money to work,' he said, 'until I come back.'

I cannot think of any verse from Jesus that tells us to punish those who dont follow Him. His command to us was to share the Gospel. It was not to make sure all people obey Him.
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President Trump loves gays
I don't see the big controversy
It all starts to make sense
When one considers Melania's past lesbian escapades
The first publicly acknowledged gay First Lady
Consider the lesson how people can change
And now she sleeps with the world's most powerful man
And bore him a fine son as his baby
 
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pckts

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Yeraza_Bats said:
Well, I know one of the biggest teachings I took from the Gospel is "he who is without sin cast the first stone"
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Yeah that means we shouldn't put people to death (or whatever harsh charge) for committing sins, that we ourselves have committed (or similar offenses).

It doesn't mean we have to accept ALL behaviors, and give everyone a free pass to do whatever. Telling someone what they are doing is wrong and not accepting their behavior and letting them know this is not the same as stoning someone to death because we have determined they can no longer live.
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Dude653

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Rachmiel said:
President Trump loves gays
I don't see the big controversy
It all starts to make sense
When one considers Melania's past lesbian escapades
The first publicly acknowledged gay First Lady
Consider the lesson how people can change
And now she sleeps with the world's most powerful man
And bore him a fine son as his baby
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I don't recall Trump ever mentioning gays. Probably because there are more pressing concerns like terrorism.... you know things that really matter
 
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pckts

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Dude653 said:
I don't recall Trump ever mentioning gays. Probably because there are more pressing concerns like terrorism.... you know things that really matter
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terrorism, what about the economy? Economy? what about our education system we can't have a strong economy without an educated public! Education system, how can we have an education system without a strong economy to fuel it! How can we fix the economy when there is a war going on? War!?, we have a war going on right here called domestic terrorism!

This is a multiple origin fire and that logic doesn't work.
 
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Yeraza_Bats

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pckts said:
Yeah that means we shouldn't put people to death (or whatever harsh charge) for committing sins, that we ourselves have committed (or similar offenses).

It doesn't mean we have to accept ALL behaviors, and give everyone a free pass to do whatever. Telling someone what they are doing is wrong and not accepting their behavior and letting them know this is not the same as stoning someone to death because we have determined they can no longer live.
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Yeraza_Bats said:
Christians should have the right to say wrong is wrong, and others should have the right to make their own choices.

I cannot think of any verse from Jesus that tells us to punish those who dont follow Him. His command to us was to share the Gospel. It was not to make sure all people obey Him.
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I dont support homosexuality in any way, and Im a strong advocate of abstinence, being someone who knows the issue personally. But I dont believe in forcing others to follow the Word of God. They have to make the choice themselves.

I believe Christians should have the right to say wrong is wrong, just as the homosexual community should have its right to practice whatever lifestyle they want. But I dont think we should force them to be Christian.
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Gotta read my posts, I dont think its wrong for Christians to stand up for whats right, am only against taking action against others for doing wrong.
 
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Rachmiel

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Dude653 said:
I don't recall Trump ever mentioning gays. Probably because there are more pressing concerns like terrorism.... you know things that really matter
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Terrorism is a pressing matter too
But so is this.
In our culture it is a big issue
No matter your view
Easily one of the more talked about too
Here is a sample of what your President has said
You and him are not too different in your thinking on this one
Some interesting thoughts on which one can metaphorically chew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9bpBFMC-NE
[video=youtube;Z9bpBFMC-NE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9bpBFMC-NE[/video]
 
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pckts

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Yeraza_Bats said:
But I dont believe in forcing others to follow the Word of God. They have to make the choice themselves-
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Yeraza_Bats said:
Gotta read my posts, I dont think its wrong for Christians to stand up for whats right, am only against taking action against others for doing wrong.
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You don't believe in forcing others to follow God and you don't think it's wrong for Christians to stand up for what is right, but you are against taking "action" for others doing wrong.

I consider standing up for what is right taking action. That's our confusion. You consider taking action punishment, and I consider speaking against them action and also using "force" of will to influence what people do.

I argued with my liberal college class on the topic of "legalized prostitution" because I feel just as strongly against that as any sexual perversion outside of man-woman marriage. I considered it taking action.
 
JosephsDreams

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Magenta said:
Non believers have promoted the fact that they believe they are smarter than believers for a long time, and produced many charts, graphs, and demographic maps to "prove" it :p If you talk to them they will try to assert that they are more logical, more rational, better educated, not brainwashed like you are, etc etc ad nauseum, and yet it is so easy to catch them contradicting themselves and being irrational and believing things that they have no factual support for, quite contrary to what they suppose of themselves. In other words, they assume they are superior while they complain about the superior attitude that they say Christians have.
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Better educated and smart are not the same.
 
stonesoffire

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Meggido said:
The notion that the conservatives stand up for Christian values is only about getting your vote.

The evil manifesting in our world is not a political party issue, it is a Spiritual issue. Christians in the USA need to wake up to the fact that we re not going to be immune from what is coming down.

The USA is not and never has been a theocracy, there was only 1 and that was Israel during the time of Samuel the Prophet, right up until the nation begged for a King and Go gave them Saul.

Some of you act like this is so terrible...Wake up and read your Bibles, Paul had the same issues in his day, nothing new is under the sun, except for selective outrage among self professed Christians.

Did you really think the end of the age is going to not have evil manifest and be in your face? The Christians in Paul's day got it and overcame and continued in the faith and got eaten by lions for that faith...how about you!?

There is a time coming in the USA that people are going to have to make a life or death choice, be with the Lord or be gone.
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Hopefully, we will have a respite...and this is because of Trump, and the VP...8 years then 4 more with the VP....if we continue (the body) to pray and pursue Him. Not fall asleep again.
 
Dude653

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Rachmiel said:
Terrorism is a pressing matter too
But so is this.
In our culture it is a big issue
No matter your view
Easily one of the more talked about too
Here is a sample of what your President has said
You and him are not too different in your thinking on this one
Some interesting thoughts on which one can metaphorically chew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9bpBFMC-NE
[video=youtube;Z9bpBFMC-NE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9bpBFMC-NE[/video]
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yep.
Let me know when we have the first gay terrorist attack.
Until then there are more pressing concerns.
I gotta agree with Trump on this one
 
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some things are illegal in spirit and soul - lies become truth and truth become lies,
in the beguiling shadows of drunkenness and self will...
 
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