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MaRss

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is smoking marijuana a sin? Im being honest here, by the grace of god i have not touched it in over 2 years! :D And the reason i havent is cuz i know the effects it had on me. I did it alot! i was a pot head :/. te effects of marijuana were laziness, bad grades, fight with moms, and APATHY :[ Thats why i choose not 2 touch it. But i have some friend who dont consider it a drug. And honestly, i dont consider smoking marijuana a sin. I have read that scripture on how we must not let anything master our bodies. but when i read that, the only thing i get out of that concerning [weed] is that we must not smoke it 2 the point where it changes us. and i sure dont think its a sin 4 those who need it! the sick! here are sum scriptures i found..
1 Cor 6:19-20 (NIV) Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honour God with your body. 1 Cor 3:16-17 (NIV) Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.
1Co 6:12 (NIV) "Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything.
if anyone lets himself be dominated by anything, he is a slave to it..
so what do u think?
i would appreciate any help w/ scriptures. not opinions. thank u :]
 
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KisDawn

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Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Timothy 4:1-4 ow the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving.

The laws against smoking were made by people not because of the bible but because of racism. Before laws were put in place against drugs you could get most of them from your neighborhood stores. That's why Coca-Cola when it first made had cocaine and caffeine in it. It doesn't have cocaine in it now but the original one did.
 
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704champion

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hey,

the Bible speaks of many laws. you've got the law of Moses or the Law of God as many call it, but you've also got other laws that are mentioned. the law of parents (pro. 7:2). Daniel is talking about civil gov. in (dan. 6:8)

God teaches us to not just obey His Laws, but to also obey man's laws, so long as they do not try to over run God's Laws. seeing that mary jane has been outlawed, yesI would have to say it's a sin.

blake
 
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wwjd_kilden

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my opinion:

if it's illegal where you are, it's a sin
if you get affected enough to not have control of your mind, it is

if you are somewhere where it's legal, and you are able to use it without loosing control, and without starting to abuse it I don't think it's wrong
ont he other hand, doing that isn't that easy... so the best thing all in all would be to stay away :)
 
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704champion

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I could agree with you wwjdk.

but I don't see how mary j could take hold of someone in the way you were making it sound. it's not physically addictive. it's not a drug. it's natural. nothing man made in it. and you can't build up a tolerance to it, either.

no one in all history has ever died from smoking pot.

man, why is it illegal?!!
 
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wwjd_kilden

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It is not physical no, but I have seen what it can do mentally to people

I know three people who smoke it, one of them smokes it every single day of he can afford it, and it makes him lazy (not ordianrily lazy, lazy like not even taking his dog for a walk for a full week, just letting her into the garden). he will rather buy hash than food....
he IS addicted, not physically, but mentally, and it's just as bad :(


if people however smoke it rarely, in small amounts, that shouldn't happen
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I think it should be used for people with bad medical problems who are in alot of pain.
 
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Maddog

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In and of itself, no, smoking cannabis is not sinful.
 
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Kay_Kay

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I've been drunk and I've been high, both have a feeling of letting go control of yourself. False information coming into your brain or a distant feeling where you're not yourself isn't a safe place to be, and deliberately putting yourself in that state of mind can cause more problems than it's worth. Even if pot wasn't illegal I think it's obvious that God doesn't look favorably upon mind altering substances.

I love smoking pot, I love getting drunk, I love the feeling it gives me but I could never justify it as being "sinless" just because it feels good. (Just calling a spade a spade.)

And for the record I've been clean for a long time.
 
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MaRss

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KisDawn said:
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Timothy 4:1-4 ow the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving.

The laws against smoking were made by people not because of the bible but because of racism. Before laws were put in place against drugs you could get most of them from your neighborhood stores. That's why Coca-Cola when it first made had cocaine and caffeine in it. It doesn't have cocaine in it now but the original one did.
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AMEN SISTUH :D i agree with u completely. MAN outlawed it. But then again we have 2 follow mthe law of the land. but i definitely dont think its a sin 4 those who smoke it LEGALLY :]
 
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MaRss

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704champion said:
hey,

the Bible speaks of many laws. you've got the law of Moses or the Law of God as many call it, but you've also got other laws that are mentioned. the law of parents (pro. 7:2). Daniel is talking about civil gov. in (dan. 6:8)

God teaches us to not just obey His Laws, but to also obey man's laws, so long as they do not try to over run God's Laws. seeing that mary jane has been outlawed, yesI would have to say it's a sin.

blake
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oh well yeah. thats not really what i was asking. i know its a SIN in the US because it is AGAINST the LAW. but what if it wasnt? say the law wasnt in the way. would smoking weed still be a sin? i dont think so. as long as ur able 2 control it, n do it just sparingly and not let it master ur body or mind.and i definitely approve of it 4 those who need it. [sick people] but thank u 4 ur reply :] an
 
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DreaMtz123

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i got to verses for yu
2 Cor 7:1 (NIV) Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.
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Gal 6:7-9 (NIV) Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.

PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY?? RIGTH??? :)
IF NOT JUST ASK...

In summary,

we should never allow ourselves to be "mastered" by any addiction/habit if we are truly "set free, indeed" by Christ; and
we must choose between the Holy Spirit and drugs to improve our lives, for we cannot participate in both.
 
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jimmydiggs

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As an American. First. It would be best not to smoke. Most Marijuana in the United States is shipped in from Mexico. The money then fuels the drug lords, and causes so many peoples lives to be ruined. So if you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, atleast home-grow it. Please. For the Mexicans.

As far as "Should I smoke weed?"

This website I think explains it fairly well.

Is It Okay for Christians to Use Marijuana and Other Drugs?



Also. My Father is a Registered Nurse working at a hospital in Kansas City. He works in a wing that deals with a lot of people recovering from drug and alcohol addictions. After hearing the stories. I honestly have no interest in drugs, and I don't really care for tylenol or pharmaceuticals either, but sometimes they are necesarry. Alcohol is something I plan to stay away from when possible. For a multitide of reasons. 1. I've got relatives that became easily addicted, I'm not sure if it was genetic or not, but I don't know, so I will avoid the problem.


29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
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Genesis 1:29 is the most used verse to justify the use of Marijauna on a recreational basis. Let me ask you this. Poison Ivy has seeds. Would you HONESTLY SMOKE POISON IVY?

For me personally, it goes something like this... The bible doesn't say, not to drink and drive. So we should do that too, right? The bible doesn't say we shouldn't eat rat poison. So we should do that too. The bible doesn't say we shouldn't stick our finger in a light socket. So we should that too, right?

The majority of people smoke Marijuana to get high, and to feel good. Instead, why not seek the lord to feel good?
 
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Cako53

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Well, seeing as it is illegal yes it is a sin.

Romans 13:1-2 "1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

Now, even if it wasn't illegal there is always this verse that still writes it off:

1 Peter 4:7 "The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray."
 
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Cako53

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Oppps, I forgot to add

1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."

I just wanted to add on a side note, that we need to stop looking for excuses for our sin. Looking for an excuse to sin is simply proof that you don't have love for God. If you truly had a love for God you wouldn't look for ways around your sin, but you would hate the sin. The proof of a true love for God is that even if there was no punishment for your sin, you would still be remorseful for your sin since you knew God hated it. If you don't have that, then you don't have a love for God, and you gotta think about where your relationship really stands with God.
 
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Dread_Zeppelin

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I dont think I've ever met a spiritually on-fire-for-Jesus Christian that advocated drug use. Just sayin, the answer is sort of obvious.
 
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Lifelike

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MaRss said:
is smoking marijuana a sin? Im being honest here, by the grace of god i have not touched it in over 2 years! :D And the reason i havent is cuz i know the effects it had on me. I did it alot! i was a pot head :/. te effects of marijuana were laziness, bad grades, fight with moms, and APATHY :[ Thats why i choose not 2 touch it. But i have some friend who dont consider it a drug. And honestly, i dont consider smoking marijuana a sin. I have read that scripture on how we must not let anything master our bodies. but when i read that, the only thing i get out of that concerning [weed] is that we must not smoke it 2 the point where it changes us. and i sure dont think its a sin 4 those who need it! the sick! here are sum scriptures i found..
1 Cor 6:19-20 (NIV) Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honour God with your body. 1 Cor 3:16-17 (NIV) Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.
1Co 6:12 (NIV) "Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything.
if anyone lets himself be dominated by anything, he is a slave to it..
so what do u think?
i would appreciate any help w/ scriptures. not opinions. thank u :]
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Maijuana is a waste of a life. And its a coping mechanism. I used to smoke every day, and i grew crops hydroponically. Then i met Jesus. And he set me free. I smoked again on and off once in a while over the following years but Ive personally found that although ive experienced the good and the bad with it, in general, and as an everyday habit, marijuana puts u in a dream world and limits true spirual growth and developement and just helps u get by with the mudanity of life. I say KICK IT, find truth life in JEsus, persue life and be YE TRANSFORMED. Legal or illegal, sin or not, If i becomes any issue between you and Jesus, we all know which one must bow the knee.

Sorry didnt supply any scriptures but im sure everyone else will, but testimony counts just as much i think. "They overcame by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony."
 
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MaRss

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Cako53 said:
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I just wanted to add on a side note, that we need to stop looking for excuses for our sin. Looking for an excuse to sin is simply proof that you don't have love for God. If you truly had a love for God you wouldn't look for ways around your sin, but you would hate the sin. The proof of a true love for God is that even if there was no punishment for your sin, you would still be remorseful for your sin since you knew God hated it. If you don't have that, then you don't have a love for God, and you gotta think about where your relationship really stands with God.
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well i guess u didnt read the reason i started this Thread. i dont smoke it or neither am i looking 4 a reason to. i just wanted 2 see others opinions, because even though i dont do it, i still dont think its a sin 4 those who need it. :]
 
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