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Amen! Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words
<1,,728,arrabon> originally, "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser and forfeited if the purchase was not completed, was probably a Phoenician word, introduced into Greece. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the Divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness, 2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; in Ephesians 1:14; 4:30 particularly of their eternal inheritance.
2 Corinthians 1:21 - Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
2 Corinthians 5:5 - Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Praise God!
Ephesians 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed unto/for the day of redemption.
<1,,728,arrabon> originally, "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser and forfeited if the purchase was not completed, was probably a Phoenician word, introduced into Greece. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the Divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness, 2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; in Ephesians 1:14; 4:30 particularly of their eternal inheritance.
2 Corinthians 1:21 - Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
2 Corinthians 5:5 - Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Praise God!
Ephesians 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed unto/for the day of redemption.
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I don't think anyone can deny the reality that people sometimes "walk away" from God.
.the question is what does God do?
Let them walk away and then cast them into hell?
Or does he walk beside them and carry them during this storm and hurt, then make them realise how much He loves them and how the world is corrupted by sin.
.the question is what does God do?
Let them walk away and then cast them into hell?
Or does he walk beside them and carry them during this storm and hurt, then make them realise how much He loves them and how the world is corrupted by sin.
It seems every time you guys try to prove something, you pull a meaning outta thin air.
The concordances & lexicons don't agree with you at all.
NOWHERE does it mean "paid in full" or even close.
Dear readers, DO NOT believe these false teachers when they claim to use any study tool, because most of the time it's a fabricated lie to back their false claims.
It's blasphemy to add eisegesis to God's word.
Strong's Concordance
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: teleó
Phonetic Spelling: (tel-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I end, accomplish, pay
Definition: (a) I end, finish, (b) I fulfill, accomplish, (c) I pay.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 5055 teléō (from 5056 /télos, "consummation, completion") – properly, to complete (consummate), i.e. finish (qualitatively) the necessary process – with the results "rolling-over" to the next level (phase) of consummation. See 5056 (telos).
[This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).]
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from telos
Definition
to bring to an end, complete, fulfill
NASB Translation
accomplished (3), carried (1), carry (1), completed (3), finish (1), finished (11), fulfilled (2), fulfilling (1), keeps (1), pay (2), perfected (1), performed (1).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 5055: τελέω
τελέω, τέλω; 1 aorist ἐτελεσα (cf. Winer's Grammar, § 13, 3 c.); perfect τετέλεκα (2 Timothy 4:7); passive, present 3 person singular τελεῖται (2 Corinthians 12:9 L T Tr WH); perfect τετελεσμαι; 1 aorist ἐτελέσθην; 1 future τελεσθήσομαι; (τέλος); from Homer down;
1. to bring to a close, to finish, to end: ἔτη, passive, passed, finished, Revelation 20:3, 5, 7 ((so from Homer and Hesiod down; Aristotle, h. a. 7, 1 at the beginning, p. 580{a}, 14 ἐν τοῖς ἔτεσι τος δίςἑπτά τετελεσμενοις); τριῶν τελουμενων ἡμερῶν, Lucian, Alex. 38); τόν δρόμον (Homer, Iliad 23, 373, 768; Sophocles Electr. 726), 2 Timothy 4:7; τούς λόγους, Matthew 7:28 L T Tr WH; ; τάςπαραβολάς, Matthew 13:53; (ἄχρι τελεσθῶσιν αἱ πληγαί, Revelation 15:8); a rare use is τέλειν τάς πόλεις, i. e. your flight or journey through the cities (R. V. ye shall not have gone through the cities, etc.), Matthew 10:23 (similar are ἀνύειν τούς τόπους, Polybius 5, 8, 1; τά ἕλη, 3, 79, 5; consummare Italiam, Flor. 1, (13) 18, 1; explere urbes, Tibull. 1, 4, 69; conficere aequor immensum, VergilGeorg. 2, 541; also xii., signorum orbem, Cicero, nat. deor. 2, 20, 52); with the participle of a verb (like ἄρχομαι, παύομαι, cf. Winers Grammar, § 45, 4 a.; Buttmann, § 144, 14), Matthew 11:1.
2. to perform, execute, complete, fulfill (so that the thing done corresponds to what has been said, the order, command, etc.), i. e. α. with special reference to the subject-matter, to carry out the contents of a command": τόν νόμον, Romans 2:27 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 134 (127)); James 2:8; τήν ἐπιθυμίαν (i. e. τό ἐπιθυμουμενον), Galatians 5:16. β. with reference also to the form, to do just as commanded, and generally involving a notion of time, to perform the last act which completes a process, to accomplish, fulfill: ἅπαντα (πάντα) τάκατά νόμον, Luke 2:39; τήν μαρτυρίαν, the duty of testifying, Revelation 11:7; τό μυστήριον, passive, Revelation 10:7 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 277 (260)); τό βάπτισμα, passive, Luke 12:50; πάντα, passive, John 19:28 (the distinction between τελέω and τελειόω may be seen in this verse); τούς λόγους (τά ῤήματα) τοῦ Θεοῦ, passive, Revelation 17:17; ἅπαντα (πάντα) τά γεγραμμένα, Acts 13:29; passive, Luke 18:31 (see γράφω, 2 c.); with ἐν ἐμοί (in me) added, in my experience, Luke 22:37; ἐν πληγαῖς, in the infliction of calamities, Revelation 15:1; τετέλεσται (A. V. it is finished) everything has been accomplished which by the appointment of the Father as revealed in the Scriptures I must do and bear, John 19:30. equivalent to τελειόω, 2, which see (made perfect): 2 Corinthians 12:9 L T Tr WH.
3. to pay: τά δίδραχμα, Matthew 17:24; φόρους, Romans 13:6, (τόν φόρον, Plato, Alc. 1, p. 123 a.; τά τέλη, often in Attic writings). (Compare: ἀποτελέω, διατελέω, ἐκτελέω, ἐπιτελέω, συντελέω.)
The concordances & lexicons don't agree with you at all.
NOWHERE does it mean "paid in full" or even close.
Dear readers, DO NOT believe these false teachers when they claim to use any study tool, because most of the time it's a fabricated lie to back their false claims.
It's blasphemy to add eisegesis to God's word.
Strong's Concordance
teleó: to bring to an end, complete, fulfill
Original Word: τελέωPart of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: teleó
Phonetic Spelling: (tel-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I end, accomplish, pay
Definition: (a) I end, finish, (b) I fulfill, accomplish, (c) I pay.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 5055 teléō (from 5056 /télos, "consummation, completion") – properly, to complete (consummate), i.e. finish (qualitatively) the necessary process – with the results "rolling-over" to the next level (phase) of consummation. See 5056 (telos).
[This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).]
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from telos
Definition
to bring to an end, complete, fulfill
NASB Translation
accomplished (3), carried (1), carry (1), completed (3), finish (1), finished (11), fulfilled (2), fulfilling (1), keeps (1), pay (2), perfected (1), performed (1).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 5055: τελέω
τελέω, τέλω; 1 aorist ἐτελεσα (cf. Winer's Grammar, § 13, 3 c.); perfect τετέλεκα (2 Timothy 4:7); passive, present 3 person singular τελεῖται (2 Corinthians 12:9 L T Tr WH); perfect τετελεσμαι; 1 aorist ἐτελέσθην; 1 future τελεσθήσομαι; (τέλος); from Homer down;
1. to bring to a close, to finish, to end: ἔτη, passive, passed, finished, Revelation 20:3, 5, 7 ((so from Homer and Hesiod down; Aristotle, h. a. 7, 1 at the beginning, p. 580{a}, 14 ἐν τοῖς ἔτεσι τος δίςἑπτά τετελεσμενοις); τριῶν τελουμενων ἡμερῶν, Lucian, Alex. 38); τόν δρόμον (Homer, Iliad 23, 373, 768; Sophocles Electr. 726), 2 Timothy 4:7; τούς λόγους, Matthew 7:28 L T Tr WH; ; τάςπαραβολάς, Matthew 13:53; (ἄχρι τελεσθῶσιν αἱ πληγαί, Revelation 15:8); a rare use is τέλειν τάς πόλεις, i. e. your flight or journey through the cities (R. V. ye shall not have gone through the cities, etc.), Matthew 10:23 (similar are ἀνύειν τούς τόπους, Polybius 5, 8, 1; τά ἕλη, 3, 79, 5; consummare Italiam, Flor. 1, (13) 18, 1; explere urbes, Tibull. 1, 4, 69; conficere aequor immensum, VergilGeorg. 2, 541; also xii., signorum orbem, Cicero, nat. deor. 2, 20, 52); with the participle of a verb (like ἄρχομαι, παύομαι, cf. Winers Grammar, § 45, 4 a.; Buttmann, § 144, 14), Matthew 11:1.
2. to perform, execute, complete, fulfill (so that the thing done corresponds to what has been said, the order, command, etc.), i. e. α. with special reference to the subject-matter, to carry out the contents of a command": τόν νόμον, Romans 2:27 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 134 (127)); James 2:8; τήν ἐπιθυμίαν (i. e. τό ἐπιθυμουμενον), Galatians 5:16. β. with reference also to the form, to do just as commanded, and generally involving a notion of time, to perform the last act which completes a process, to accomplish, fulfill: ἅπαντα (πάντα) τάκατά νόμον, Luke 2:39; τήν μαρτυρίαν, the duty of testifying, Revelation 11:7; τό μυστήριον, passive, Revelation 10:7 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 277 (260)); τό βάπτισμα, passive, Luke 12:50; πάντα, passive, John 19:28 (the distinction between τελέω and τελειόω may be seen in this verse); τούς λόγους (τά ῤήματα) τοῦ Θεοῦ, passive, Revelation 17:17; ἅπαντα (πάντα) τά γεγραμμένα, Acts 13:29; passive, Luke 18:31 (see γράφω, 2 c.); with ἐν ἐμοί (in me) added, in my experience, Luke 22:37; ἐν πληγαῖς, in the infliction of calamities, Revelation 15:1; τετέλεσται (A. V. it is finished) everything has been accomplished which by the appointment of the Father as revealed in the Scriptures I must do and bear, John 19:30. equivalent to τελειόω, 2, which see (made perfect): 2 Corinthians 12:9 L T Tr WH.
3. to pay: τά δίδραχμα, Matthew 17:24; φόρους, Romans 13:6, (τόν φόρον, Plato, Alc. 1, p. 123 a.; τά τέλη, often in Attic writings). (Compare: ἀποτελέω, διατελέω, ἐκτελέω, ἐπιτελέω, συντελέω.)
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Lol I love him like a brother and I don't believe in incest.
I was actually thinking of the bike ride in the woods and thinking it would be awesome to be able to have it in my "backyard" my kids would love being so close to nature.
We just got home today from camping (my daughter and me). The boys still at boy scout camp.
I was actually thinking of the bike ride in the woods and thinking it would be awesome to be able to have it in my "backyard" my kids would love being so close to nature.
We just got home today from camping (my daughter and me). The boys still at boy scout camp.
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Are you saying God isn't with you during the trials of your life even when you feel him far away?
What I am saying is don't judge yourself or others in the middle of the story.
God isn't done with us yet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejycllx5iwA
Add to ones Faith the knowledge that when God begins a good work, He completes it.
What I am saying is don't judge yourself or others in the middle of the story.
God isn't done with us yet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejycllx5iwA
Add to ones Faith the knowledge that when God begins a good work, He completes it.
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I gave everyone a very lengthy answer on that a page or so ago...God never left or forsook the first generation that die din the wilderness of the Sinai....they did die and only Caleb and Joshua and the 2nd generation entered into the literal promised land...they died and did not enter rest because of their unbelief......
Maybe a good study would be Numbers 13-14, 26 & 32 and then rightly divide it with Hebrews 3 and 4....
God is good, no question. God also cannot deny himself...
Maybe a good study would be Numbers 13-14, 26 & 32 and then rightly divide it with Hebrews 3 and 4....
God is good, no question. God also cannot deny himself...
To the honest...There is no ability to keep your salvation dia works and no sinning.....they may go a week and then fail and tell themselves that they cannot live up to it and lose heart....exactly why we are called to enter into HIS rest dai faith....and the promises made b Christ to keep us, finish us, not lose us, save us to the uttermost, continually forgive us, keep us by his power etc.......