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It's up to the older person to be more understanding.
I think PHart felt attacked. I felt like this too when I got here.
I would be gone too by now except for the reason that I've repeated many times.
I don't know why we can't just have a nice conversation.
You show up every now and then and act like a referee.
It would be nice if you just posted what you believe and used scripture instead
of making those comments like you do.
Anyway, it's time for me to be leaving for a while again.
Hope you don't miss me too much...
(Yeah ! I know you can't wait to get rid of me!!)
P.S. I don't mean older in age, but in seniority to the thread.
I think PHart felt attacked. I felt like this too when I got here.
I would be gone too by now except for the reason that I've repeated many times.
I don't know why we can't just have a nice conversation.
You show up every now and then and act like a referee.
It would be nice if you just posted what you believe and used scripture instead
of making those comments like you do.
Anyway, it's time for me to be leaving for a while again.
Hope you don't miss me too much...
(Yeah ! I know you can't wait to get rid of me!!)
P.S. I don't mean older in age, but in seniority to the thread.
instead of always blaming me, why do you not investigate to see what really happen d, this stuff really gets old the man came in here with an attitude, you want to come in with an attitude, expect to get one back.
PHarts third post in this thread, up thill this time, he seemed pretty normal, then this occurred.
I understand your confusion. You and countless others have been indoctrinated by the church. You're seeing things in what I'm saying that I'm not saying. This is a very big knot to untie in the church today. That is why I will not go into the ministry.
If you want to hang in here with me and let me separate what you're hearing me say and what I'm actually saying I would like to do that. I will address each and every item if you want me to. But I don't want to waste the time if you are convinced that you can not be convinced otherwise.
If you want to hang in here with me and let me separate what you're hearing me say and what I'm actually saying I would like to do that. I will address each and every item if you want me to. But I don't want to waste the time if you are convinced that you can not be convinced otherwise.
we we are confused, we are indoctrinated, well wow, three posts in and he already knows us, and already attacking us,
And here, in response to something D.C. Said, was he being honest, trying to stir up DISCUSSION? I could be wrong but I went back a few pages and am not sure I have even spoken to PHart yet, but this is what. Am reading before I speak. As you can see I already see a major issue, he is not here to discuss by these words, but push what he believ s,,
And, again, you simply can not hear what is being argued.
James says works are necessary to be saved, but you can only hear them as being necessary to earn salvation, instead of what is actually being argued that works are necessary for salvation only in that they confirm the presence of that which secures salvation all by itself--faith in Christ.
Is it breaking through yet? If you hang in here and purposely try to understand what is actually being said instead of what you think is being said you will begin to understand what James is saying. We know James is not lying--works are a necessary component of salvation.....just not the way you instantly think that has to mean. You and countless others seem incapable of being able to understand the necessity for works in salvation in a way where those works do not earn salvation itself.
James says works are necessary to be saved, but you can only hear them as being necessary to earn salvation, instead of what is actually being argued that works are necessary for salvation only in that they confirm the presence of that which secures salvation all by itself--faith in Christ.
Is it breaking through yet? If you hang in here and purposely try to understand what is actually being said instead of what you think is being said you will begin to understand what James is saying. We know James is not lying--works are a necessary component of salvation.....just not the way you instantly think that has to mean. You and countless others seem incapable of being able to understand the necessity for works in salvation in a way where those works do not earn salvation itself.
moving on.
Yeah, I know. Funny isn't it.
Paragraph after paragraph of Christians defending the case for dead faith. The dead faith that James says won't save, yet is being so vehemently defended here. But I know that is where the church is at in this time of human history. We've got it in our heads that we don't have to do anything or <gasp!> we'd be guilty of trying to earn our own salvation. We got a lot of people thinking God is going to heap praise on them when they give Christ back his One Talent when he returns because God is just so loving and gracious that way! I can hear their voices already...."let me in, let me in!"
Paragraph after paragraph of Christians defending the case for dead faith. The dead faith that James says won't save, yet is being so vehemently defended here. But I know that is where the church is at in this time of human history. We've got it in our heads that we don't have to do anything or <gasp!> we'd be guilty of trying to earn our own salvation. We got a lot of people thinking God is going to heap praise on them when they give Christ back his One Talent when he returns because God is just so loving and gracious that way! I can hear their voices already...."let me in, let me in!"
all because instead of trying to discuss things
he had to attack people falsly
he had to tell them they can not hear, and everyone not like him is confused and indoctrinated
the only thing that surprises me is more people did not confront this behavior and the fact that a "side" kept defending him well that should tell you the sad state of our chat room.
I admit, I went to far a few times, my anger at him caused Megiddo to confront me, I did not handle that well
but to all the people trying to stick up for this man and say it's my fault, you should be ashamed
And and I have not even posted the arrogant stuff he posted at me, that stuff does not bother me, I love it, it just shows a persons true character.