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blue_ladybug

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From personal experience, I can say that a person going through a dark time, sometimes CANNOT see the light..


no mate i read my post and ralised it could upset him the wrong way but posted it anyway coz i kinda hoped that bluntness would shine a light... you however saw the bad in it and didnt even bother to ask what i ment because if you look again you could seee some light in there..
 
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Ariel82

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absolute hatred hey well done fot making someone hate me even more ... congractualations sister...
Bill doesn't hate you. He may get mad but Blue gave him sound advice.
.didn't you tell me to ignore/not talk to Peterjens a few weeks ago?
 
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Whatever.....the points still stand and your refusal to acknowledge the truth speaks volumes.....
no pal your way of the mark...and it will result in you becoming on my permanent ignor list if you continue.. to make me out to something im not...
 

blue_ladybug

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absolute hatred hey well done fot making someone hate me even more ... congractualations sister...
Get real. It's not hatred. It was said to get him to calm down, unfortunately ignore button is sometimes the ONLY way people can stay calm on here. I'm sure Bill doesn't hate you, and neither do I..
 
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the reason to fear Jesus the lord lord lets see how many are spotted here

God’s judgment will be less for some

Matthew 11:20-24 Then he began to denounce the cities where most of his mighty works had been done, because they did not repent. “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I tell you that it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you.”


God’s judgment will be double for others

Revelation 18:5-6 for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.6 Pay her back as she herself has paid back others, and repay her double for her deeds; mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.

Torment will be mental

Luke 16:25 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us


11:28 Jesus declared, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it


John 5:24: “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” ( but who ever does not
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no pal your way of the mark...and it will result in you becoming on my permanent ignor list if you continue.. to make me out to something im not...
OK.........whatevzzz Go back and read....the truth is the truth.....receive it or not.....Bill himself tried to show you and you still reject and stand on something not right........!
 
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OK.........whatevzzz Go back and read....the truth is the truth.....receive it or not.....Bill himself tried to show you and you still reject and stand on something not right........!
last chance pal...
 

blue_ladybug

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Is this kindergarten? Cuz I coulda sworn I graduated from high school..

ROFLMBO
 
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Ariel82

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you cant stop spirits tempting you into being upset
You can stop giving them power by allowing them to affect your emotions. God has given you the power over yourself. Don't believe the lies they tell you. Pray and remember God's love and promises.

The deeper you go into God's truth and His love,the less they can twist and control your thoughts.

You can recognise their lies and battle them with God's truth.
.the Bible is our best defense.

You know of our spiritual armor right? Figured a solider like you would check each part of His armor.
 
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This verse here in 1 John 5:18 says the same thing basically as 1 John 3:9...it says that the one born of God cannot sin. I don't believe the new creation in Christ can sin as 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 5:18 speaks about.

1 John 3:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.



It is definitely in the present tense which means "doing a sin now". Present tense is always present tense. Whether it is one sin or a thousand sins.

Theologians have tried to rationalize this out by saying - does not habitually sin but the text does not say that. I understand the need for saying that because we know that all Christians give into the flesh from time to time and thus they don't really know what to do with these verses.

Understanding the circumcision of Christ where the inner man in Christ is "cut away" from the body of flesh sheds more light on this area. Col. 2:11

I don't believe the new creation in Christ where Christ dwells can be contaminated or touched by sin.

What happens to our spirit where Christ is joined as one with us when we sin if the theory that sin can reach our new man in Christ - which has been created in righteousness and holiness. Do we go in and out of righteousness because it is NOT our righteousness but Christ's alone? Does Christ leave us? Of course not.

Let's say we sinned ( and whatsoever is not of faith is sin so this could mean any type of sin ) and then we die in a car crash just after we got angry at someone and called them a name ( which Jesus says is a sin in Matt 5:22 ) - have we lost righteousness and thus not able to go to heaven?

There are so many problems when you really stop to ponder the ramifications with the theory that we lose our righteousness because sin touches the inner man in Christ. Sin does not affect the inner man in Christ that is the new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness.

Romans 8:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.


We can sin by yielding our members in our flesh if we yield to it and we are responsible with what we do in our bodies.

1 John 5:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.

Jesus is keeping us from the evil one in our new creation in Christ.
 

blue_ladybug

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You absolutely CAN stop spirits from tempting you.. I'd tell you how, but Ariel beat me to it.. lol
 
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You can stop giving them power by allowing them to affect your emotions. God has given you the power over yourself. Don't believe the lies they tell you. Pray and remember God's love and promises.

The deeper you go into God's truth and His love,the less they can twist and control your thoughts.

You can recognise their lies and battle them with God's truth.
.the Bible is our best defense.

You know of our spiritual armor right? Figured a solider like you would check each part of His armor.
if a spirit can jump into you again after being removed from Jesus it can certainly commincate with you... pls aerials i dont want to talk about theese right now..

They are Not God allowed in any way... The bible has no truth in the fact that they will be put out one day... coz the truth is new bad spirits are born every day...
 
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the bible is clear the battle is for ever against wicked forces...
 
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5) God’s “divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life” (2 Peter 1:3; cf. Romans 8:32). Salvation, then, is not just a ticket to heaven. It is the means by which we are sanctified (practically) in this life and by which we grow in grace.

6) Scripture teaches that Jesus is Lord of all. Christ demands unconditional surrender to His will (Romans 6:17–18; 10:9–10). Those who live in rebellion to God’s will do not have eternal life, for “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble” (James 4:6).

7) Those who truly believe in Christ will love Him (1 Peter 1:8–9; Romans 8:28–30; 1 Corinthians 16:22). And those we love we long to please (John 14:15, 23).
 
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Ariel82

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G777, I disagree but don't have time to break down why for you at the moment.

When we sin, our whole being is affected....we don't have a sinless spirit separate from our flesh.

We have to be washed clean by God daily
.that is why walking with God is important......

That is also why Jesus taught us to thank God for our daily bread.....

We need God every day.
 

blue_ladybug

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Absolutely not true. IF you read your bible, and pray, and wear your armor and call upon the name of Jesus when things tempt you, they will have NO EFFECT on you. If a spirit sees Jesus within you, ain't no way it's gonna re-enter you...


if a spirit can jump into you again after being removed from Jesus it can certainly commincate with you... pls aerials i dont want to talk about theese right now..

They are Not God allowed in any way... The bible has no truth in the fact that they will be put out one day... coz the truth is new bad spirits are born every day...
 
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Ariel82

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Absolutely not true. IF you read your bible, and pray, and wear your armor and call upon the name of Jesus when things tempt you, they will have NO EFFECT on you. If a spirit sees Jesus within you, ain't no way it's gonna re-enter you...
Evil spirits can whisper lies that it can and they do enter our dreams sometimes, but we can pray and God will chase them away.

The spiritual strongholds...are harder to tear down, because we have to do it.

We have to see them as lies and replace them with God's truth.

For example the false doctrine of "legal rights" for demons.

Or the false doctrines taught by word of faith preachers,