Lesbianism

Gabriel2020 · Jul 10, 2017

The beam and the mote Jesus was talking about at that time was the blind trying to lead the blind, They were all sinners walking in darkness, and non had been saved. So they all had a beam and a mote in their eyes. Once whomever became saved and received the Holy Spirit could see clearly the beam in the unsaved eye,and correct them by the word of God.

pottersclay · Jul 10, 2017

Amazing-Grace said:

My concern is for you saint, you have actually questioned the word of God because of your emotional attachment . Please do not be decieved and Iam not saying this because of their lifestyle. proverbs tells us that a dog returns to its own vomit. Now you can rebuke me for being brutally honest but remember satan is a smooth talker. Now they have heard the truth and walked away from it that is the fact. You say that they make subtle jabs at your faith...warning. I know its hard saint but love them in prayer stop warming your hands next to the fire. Turn them over to God and trust his judgement. Live peacefully with all that you can in as much as you can. There are no grey areas in any sinful areas.

These are un natural people who have turned their backs on God. Who have even gone against the natural state of his creation.
As i stated before my concerns are with you right now. Caution saint caution.

Meggido · Jul 10, 2017

pottersclay said:

Thanks for the advice!

Now go back into the bleachers and sit down, and go back to spectator status and leave the real players alone.....we don't need you interfering with the plays being made here...Trust me...its best for you to remain in spectator Christianity....let the real champions of God reach out and make the plays with Jesus....

This was not truth, this was religion.....Our Jesus would have no issues warming his hands in the fire next to these 2 women....

Matt 25.31-46 and you should get acquainted...and become friends...

pottersclay · Jul 10, 2017

Meggido said:

It seems to me that peter had that problem........I had suggested that she let God handle it " hence Jesus".

You telling me to sit on the bench......did I offend you in some way ....or did the scriptures i quoted offend you?

Truth sometimes is offensive........ seems you should get acquainted..... I pointed out 2 warning signs.

Nice judging me too. Take it you really did not want to hear what I had to say. Jesus saves not us once you understand that you'll be better off.

pottersclay · Jul 10, 2017

By the way Jesus makes the plays not us. We just need to give the ball to him............good day

stillness · Jul 11, 2017

Hi Amazing Grace, nice to meet you, you wear His name well. The first thought to share with you is, "All manner of sin shall be forgiven to man but rejecting the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven to man. Without Him we can't (or is it Her, "The Spirit and the bride say, come and drink of the water of Life freely." No mater there is no gender in Spirit like on earth.)
About your question, noticed you have it answered, but about those who go to hell, we have all been there, it's where life does not make sense, "If I make my bed in hell, Lord you are there." We fall, to find Him in our deepest need. I suggest you don't take the care of those, in your hands as He already has the whole world in His hands, find rest concerning this. I feel more sorry for those judging and suspect you do as well. I was in hell Saturday over desiring a worldly woman as an idol (Not in person) a humbling experience, even the church meting on Sunday was barely enough to revive me. Today had a god day.

stillness · Jul 11, 2017

A board is a better term than beam as it's like judging in a bored meting: gossip

stillness · Jul 11, 2017

Just so I'm not miss-understood, there is a time of accountability: 6 years ago the Lord told me, "It would be better for you not to have been born than to return to your vomit." Already in danger of misunderstanding: we learn to trust in the Lord as the Rock, and not fall short seeking comfort of this world. "Judgment must begin at the house of God." Some of us have died with Christ and are judged by Him, few pray to enter this most fearful place of judgment, to enter the relationship He has with the Father, To enter into rest, this takes years...

lastofall · Jul 11, 2017

Certainly you must know that such is sin without question: the Truth according to God has nothing to do with feelings or affections; those are merely our inclinations of hope for compromise. Secular society does not determine what is for God and against God, and never has: only God's Word is the authority of right and wrong; therefore search the scripture your own self til you may rightly divide the Word of Truth, and stop hindering it.

Meggido · Jul 11, 2017

pottersclay said:

no your spiritual bigotry masked as truth offends me and so does your higher than thou holiness and writing off of broken humans....oh well, they had their shot...glad I got mine, now let me tell the saints how they to can avoid getting their hands dirty for the kingdom....

I find your attitude foolish...you act as judge, jury and executioner on lesbians and then have the arrogance and ignorance to tell others they have no right to do the same to you!?

Jesus and his Spirit work through people now, once you understand that, you might actually do something of benefit for the kingdom, instead of pontificating the differences between stoning and strangling methods of death for adultery violations under the Mosaic law.

Meggido · Jul 11, 2017

pottersclay said:

you got that backwards ace...he works through people now...but such a mental theologian as yourself, wont get this...and hopefully you will.....He sets up the play and expects you to carry the ball[him] to others, when he calls the play...and puts you in the game....

90% of the Body of Christ today in the USA are consumer and spectator Christians...you were the hat nicely...stay on the bench and leave the dirty work to the ones he called to play....

Meggido · Jul 11, 2017

stillness said:

Just so I'm not miss-understood, there is a time of accountability: 6 years ago the Lord told me, "It would be better for you not to have been born than to return to your vomit." Already in danger of misunderstanding: we learn to trust in the Lord as the Rock, and not fall short seeking comfort of this world. "Judgment must begin at the house of God." Some of us have died with Christ and are judged by Him, few pray to enter this most fearful place of judgment, to enter the relationship He has with the Father, To enter into rest, this takes years...

it only takes years if you fail to submit to the process of dying to yourself....

Depleted · Jul 11, 2017

J7 said:

Often, they were called "maiden-aunts."

Hubby grew up in the 50s, and had some maiden aunts. You could go to jail for being a homosexual, so it was all on the down-low.

Not all maiden aunts were homosexual, but some where.

It was also more likely that homosexuals would marry opposite-gender, and have kids, but then continue on with their lifestyle hidden away.

Oddly enough, the Down-low still means the same thing it used to mean, but straights don't usually know the real meaning to that phrase.

CS1 · Jul 11, 2017

Amazing-Grace said:

I am working with a lesbian lady and I also know her partner. I have witnessed to her partner once before and they are both very young...the partner is also very very sick with Anorexia which I believe is yet another attack from the enemy and follows years of different methods of attack, each more severe than the last. This lady openly admits to the fact that when she sought refuge in a church and was prayed over theses evil spirits left her only to return each time she left. Because of her lesbianism she has since shunned the church and neither of them will have anything to do with Jesus or the church.

Now, God has given me a heart for these young ladies and I love them as I would my very own daughters. I especially like the one I work with as she is a lot of fun and we get on so well. I have also tried to witness to this one but she is even more negative towards what I say regarding the Bible....

Which really brings me to my main question...God says in His word that "man should not lie with a man as with a woman" or words to that effect...but does it say anywhere in the Bible that He sees Lesbianism in the same way? We assume He does but in fact does He, or do we simply assume He means the same for both sex's.

Please, I respectfully ask that simple opinions, Biblical points and scripture be used in reply. Please let's not shout anyone down or call people names because they see things a little differently than yourselves. I just want to reach these young ladies and bring them to Christ but I don't want to do it at the expense of what God means and wants....so I ask that we all respect others on this thread. Thank you.

Yes . Lev 20 is including the women too. as you read the rest of the chapter the only God approved sexual relationship is that of one man and one women in marriage.

also [h=2]Lesbianism[/h]
is an off spring from Feminism . which is coming out from under a male dominant society .

Amazing-Grace · Jul 11, 2017

pottersclay said:

Thank you for your concern brother...I wasn't questioning God's word but merely asking for clarification. I understand what you are saying but as God has given me a heart for these girls then He clearly doesn't want me to stand back whilst they continue on the road to Hell. I don't see how it can harm me to engage with them and just be an example to them...it's hardly going to turn me to women is it lol. Yeah I have prayed for them but for sure I can ask God to intervene. Thanks for the advice.

BTW I also agree with PottersClay that we cannot simply stand idle whilst folk are on the highway to Hell. I don't believe that this would be pleasing to God.

Denadii · Jul 11, 2017

Amazing-Grace said:

I am working with a lesbian lady and I also know her partner. I have witnessed to her partner once before and they are both very young...the partner is also very very sick with Anorexia which I believe is yet another attack from the enemy and follows years of different methods of attack, each more severe than the last. This lady openly admits to the fact that when she sought refuge in a church and was prayed over theses evil spirits left her only to return each time she left. Because of her lesbianism she has since shunned the church and neither of them will have anything to do with Jesus or the church.

Now, God has given me a heart for these young ladies and I love them as I would my very own daughters. I especially like the one I work with as she is a lot of fun and we get on so well. I have also tried to witness to this one but she is even more negative towards what I say regarding the Bible....

Which really brings me to my main question...God says in His word that "man should not lie with a man as with a woman" or words to that effect...but does it say anywhere in the Bible that He sees Lesbianism in the same way? We assume He does but in fact does He, or do we simply assume He means the same for both sex's.

Please, I respectfully ask that simple opinions, Biblical points and scripture be used in reply. Please let's not shout anyone down or call people names because they see things a little differently than yourselves. I just want to reach these young ladies and bring them to Christ but I don't want to do it at the expense of what God means and wants....so I ask that we all respect others on this thread. Thank you.

removed very rude comment

Amazing-Grace · Jul 11, 2017

Denadii said:

Brother, I read your original comment and you are right...but when you are trying to reach the unsaved sometimes you find yourself clutching at straws...I know God's word and I wouldn't try to twist it into an interpretation that suits my cause and this is why I asked for clarification.

pottersclay · Jul 11, 2017

Amazing-Grace said:

Well you are in my prayers as the lord leads sister . I beleive in giving the full council of God. As you can see not everyone agrees with it but then again if I were a man pleaser it would anger me.

Just be cautious on the spiritual side of things. We are told not to be friends with the world. We can get caught up in our emotions and not heed the spirit. I say this not because of their lifestyle but their rejection of Christ and the fallen away.
blessings to you and yours

potter

Meggido · Jul 11, 2017

pottersclay said:

Well you are in my prayers as the lord leads sister . I beleive in giving the full council of God. As you can see not everyone agrees with it but then again if I were a man pleaser it would anger me.

Just be cautious on the spiritual side of things. We are told not to be friends with the world. We can get caught up in our emotions and not heed the spirit. I say this not because of their lifestyle but their rejection of Christ and the fallen away.
blessings to you and yours

potter

Ever watch a Peacock unfurl its tail and then strut?

Meggido · Jul 11, 2017

Amazing-Grace said:

AG-
You go as the Holy Spirit leads you! My wife and I are holding you up in prayer....never forget that the power of God is working through you to destroy the yoke, lift the burden and change the life...as seen by spiritually immature comments, not everyone is chosen to minister in the valley or even cross the river to take back what the enemy has stolen.......the fact he has chosen you for this assignment means that he will accomplish what he started and his word in you will not return void and it will spiritually prosper/bless what he sends it into....You should count it all joy that God has the faith in you to perform this ministry....and he will reap the panting and watering you are obedient to accomplish....

The Lord bless you, and keep you;The Lord make His face shine on you,
And be gracious to you;

The Lord lift up His countenance on you,
And give you peace.’

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