Does God Lie?
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I'm your huckleberry denadii? And no, I'm not attacking you, I'm confronting and exposing your heretical theology that you learned from wof wolves. What does Acts 20:29,30 say? "I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; vs30, (Now watch this denadii) "and FROM AMONG YOUR OWN SELVES MEN WILL ARISE, (what will they do denadii?) speaking perverse things to draw away the disciples after them."
So who do you think these people are today that are in the church posing as sheep but are really wolves? I say many are wof teachers and preachers that you follow. And why does the Apostle Paul say at vs31, "Therefore be on the ALERT, remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one of you with tears." It's because he cares for people just like I care for you. I am not your enemy denadii.
And 2 Peter 2:1-3 is what your doing. "But false prophets also arose among the people just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. vs2, And many will follow their pernicious ways, (do you know what pernicious means denadii? It means having a harmful effect, especially in gradual or subtle way).
and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; vs3, and in their greed they will exploit you (who is more greedy that wof) with FALSE WORDS; their judgement from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep." Need I say more denadii? Well actually yes because as I was typing this God gave me 2 Timothy 4:20 regarding sickness. "Erastus remained at Corinth, BUT TROPHIMUS I LEFT SICK AT MILETUS." Why did the Apostle Paul live this man sick instead of healing him denadii?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
So who do you think these people are today that are in the church posing as sheep but are really wolves? I say many are wof teachers and preachers that you follow. And why does the Apostle Paul say at vs31, "Therefore be on the ALERT, remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one of you with tears." It's because he cares for people just like I care for you. I am not your enemy denadii.
And 2 Peter 2:1-3 is what your doing. "But false prophets also arose among the people just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. vs2, And many will follow their pernicious ways, (do you know what pernicious means denadii? It means having a harmful effect, especially in gradual or subtle way).
and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; vs3, and in their greed they will exploit you (who is more greedy that wof) with FALSE WORDS; their judgement from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep." Need I say more denadii? Well actually yes because as I was typing this God gave me 2 Timothy 4:20 regarding sickness. "Erastus remained at Corinth, BUT TROPHIMUS I LEFT SICK AT MILETUS." Why did the Apostle Paul live this man sick instead of healing him denadii?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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so now we control where the demons stand? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
Pin those cases in the bible when disciples or apostles (or wtvr) cast demons out of people or places, the demons were already in those people or places which to me seems impossible if God's presence is everywhere, all the time. So, the demons were in God's presence but God needed us to...do what exactly?
Now im just confusing myself
Pin those cases in the bible when disciples or apostles (or wtvr) cast demons out of people or places, the demons were already in those people or places which to me seems impossible if God's presence is everywhere, all the time. So, the demons were in God's presence but God needed us to...do what exactly?
Now im just confusing myself
Just a note as to why I believe the Word Faith doctrine is heresy!
There are many doctrines we don't agree on as Christians. Eschatology so a big one, soteriology, too. What we believe about end times, regardless of what some dispensationslsts say, does not affect our salvation.
Ironically, even soteriology, so long as there is an understanding that we are saved by grace through faith, not of ourselves, lest anyone should boast, does not make it a heresy. (Some may disagree, but as long as you are not tampering with the Bible, and your heart and life has been changed by the power of God, who are we to say person A is not saved, while person B is?)
The reason Word Faith is heresy is two fold:
1. It takes Scriptures out of context, does not look at the passage, the Scripture or the whole Bible to interpret verses. It rejects the vivid word pictures both Jesus and the prophets used in their writings, called metaphors, and replaces them with a chilling literalism that would have shocked the poetic Hebrew people.
A good example would be "by his stripes we are healed," referring to spiritual sickness in the entire book of Isaiah. In fact, although I haven't checked, I do not believe there is one single reference to physical healing in all of Isaiah. I just did a quick google search, not even Joseph Prince nor Andrew Wommack, who write on this verse, posts a single other incidence of God healing in Isaiah. In fact, they link back to the two other "proof" texts in Matthew and first Peter, which I have have dealt with before, and will again in a separate post.
2. Heretics add to the Bible. They take a verse such as "you are gods" and make it a prophecy that believers are god. I find that to be scary, to say the least, but beyond the scope of this discussion.
So, in essence - when you deal with the central issue to our faith - the atonement- and you make it say what it is not meant to say, you have gone past orthodoxy into heterodoxy. In other words, you are espousing heresy!
The atonement defines everything Christian. It is the way we are saved. And anyone who believes, having been changed by God, is saved. But when you start adding things to the atonement, like you MUST be healed, or taking 6 words in isolation, and interpreting them to mean physical healing, rather than the spiritual healing that the Greek Septuagint actually translates as "sin sickness", then you have crossed a dangerous line into heresy.
Put another way, if healing was in the atonement, it would be prophesied over and over again, not just in part d of Isa 53:5. Or implied in verse 4. Spiritual healing, restoration, the atonement for sins by Jesus life, death, resurrection and ascension literally starts in Genesis 3, and continues to Revelation 22. God never reveals a vital and major doctrine in 1/4 of a verse in the OT and 2 quotes in the NT. That is forcing a theological doctrine, where there is not one. The atonement restores what sin had broken, and that is our relationship with God. One day, we will all be restored to perfect health, and there will be no more crying or tears!
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” Rev 21:4
And lest I be plummeted again. I do believe God heals in his time and will. For some of us, that might be through doctors or other medical practitioners, or at the Resurrection. And sometimes God reaches down from heaven and heals miraculously! But, it is the mercy and compassion of God that initiates that kind of action, not naming and claiming it, demanding or feeling that God has obligated himself to physically heal in the atonement, because he has not!
There are many doctrines we don't agree on as Christians. Eschatology so a big one, soteriology, too. What we believe about end times, regardless of what some dispensationslsts say, does not affect our salvation.
Ironically, even soteriology, so long as there is an understanding that we are saved by grace through faith, not of ourselves, lest anyone should boast, does not make it a heresy. (Some may disagree, but as long as you are not tampering with the Bible, and your heart and life has been changed by the power of God, who are we to say person A is not saved, while person B is?)
The reason Word Faith is heresy is two fold:
1. It takes Scriptures out of context, does not look at the passage, the Scripture or the whole Bible to interpret verses. It rejects the vivid word pictures both Jesus and the prophets used in their writings, called metaphors, and replaces them with a chilling literalism that would have shocked the poetic Hebrew people.
A good example would be "by his stripes we are healed," referring to spiritual sickness in the entire book of Isaiah. In fact, although I haven't checked, I do not believe there is one single reference to physical healing in all of Isaiah. I just did a quick google search, not even Joseph Prince nor Andrew Wommack, who write on this verse, posts a single other incidence of God healing in Isaiah. In fact, they link back to the two other "proof" texts in Matthew and first Peter, which I have have dealt with before, and will again in a separate post.
2. Heretics add to the Bible. They take a verse such as "you are gods" and make it a prophecy that believers are god. I find that to be scary, to say the least, but beyond the scope of this discussion.
So, in essence - when you deal with the central issue to our faith - the atonement- and you make it say what it is not meant to say, you have gone past orthodoxy into heterodoxy. In other words, you are espousing heresy!
The atonement defines everything Christian. It is the way we are saved. And anyone who believes, having been changed by God, is saved. But when you start adding things to the atonement, like you MUST be healed, or taking 6 words in isolation, and interpreting them to mean physical healing, rather than the spiritual healing that the Greek Septuagint actually translates as "sin sickness", then you have crossed a dangerous line into heresy.
Put another way, if healing was in the atonement, it would be prophesied over and over again, not just in part d of Isa 53:5. Or implied in verse 4. Spiritual healing, restoration, the atonement for sins by Jesus life, death, resurrection and ascension literally starts in Genesis 3, and continues to Revelation 22. God never reveals a vital and major doctrine in 1/4 of a verse in the OT and 2 quotes in the NT. That is forcing a theological doctrine, where there is not one. The atonement restores what sin had broken, and that is our relationship with God. One day, we will all be restored to perfect health, and there will be no more crying or tears!
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” Rev 21:4
And lest I be plummeted again. I do believe God heals in his time and will. For some of us, that might be through doctors or other medical practitioners, or at the Resurrection. And sometimes God reaches down from heaven and heals miraculously! But, it is the mercy and compassion of God that initiates that kind of action, not naming and claiming it, demanding or feeling that God has obligated himself to physically heal in the atonement, because he has not!
Just as long as you realize that this post is merely your opinion. Opinions only matter to the person that owns it. Now you are on my ignore list because to my understanding all you want to do is fight and bully. I don't have to do either. I don't believe a word you say. I'll only believe what I read in the Word.
This was actually written about my other special needs daughter who can walk, so in a way, prayer answered.
