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Aug 15, 2009
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kind of off subject but

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James 3:1

“My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.”
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when i read this it can mean a few things....

the two most obvious to me

are

1. If you teach the word its because you know it well... and as a teacher who has recieved much wisdom from God
you will be held to a higher standard

OR

2. same but instead of a higher standard as in, needing to reach a higher level of what THEY DO

they will recieve a greater PUNISHMENT for failing after recieving these blessings (or teaching falsely, and casting stumbling blocks)
You've got the idea. Here's another scripture that kinda confirms this one:
Luke 12
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47“And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn’t prepared and doesn’t carry out those instructions, will be severely punished. 48But someone who does not know, and then does something wrong, will be punished only lightly. When someone has been given much, much will be required in return; and when someone has been entrusted with much, even more will be required.
 
Jan 27, 2013
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Royal....I have to prove no life decision that I have made to you...you are not my dad, my boss nor my God and or judge
who are you kidding, you can not prove the law your repent from, when did i ask for your it opinion, you dip stick.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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You've got the idea. Here's another scripture that kinda confirms this one:
Luke 12
NLT
47“And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn’t prepared and doesn’t carry out those instructions, will be severely punished. 48But someone who does not know, and then does something wrong, will be punished only lightly. When someone has been given much, much will be required in return; and when someone has been entrusted with much, even more will be required.
very very good verse

thank you sir.... you get a rep

and im re-reading luke tomorrow

God bless


(in my kjv)

Luke 12:48

48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


more clear that it doesnt mean a WORSE punishment


but HIGHER standard
 
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who are you kidding, you can not prove the law your repent from, when did i ask for your it opinion, you dip stick.
How do you know these expressions?
In what school did you learn English?

And where oh where did you learn about Christianity?

Maybe you should go back to school and learn BOTH all over again?
YES. That's a good idea.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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when would an idot ,as a 26 year old for ad vice.
is that the best answer you have. or are you no programed to answer .
well... no one asked me for advice.... or "ad vice"


i also didnt ask for advice.... i asked the people here to share with me their understandings on a verse

to see if maybe my second thought wasnt a common thought


i may have read the whole bible

but im still growing... and sometimes i appreciate when brothers or sisters in Christ share with me what God has shown THEM
 
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How do you know these expressions?
In what school did you learn English?

And where oh where did you learn about Christianity?

Maybe you should go back to school and learn BOTH all over again?
YES. That's a good idea.
oops when you understand something, who ask you to answer my post. can you give chater and verse
 
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well... no one asked me for advice.... or "ad vice"


i also didnt ask for advice.... i asked the people here to share with me their understandings on a verse

to see if maybe my second thought wasnt a common thought


i may have read the whole bible

but im still growing... and sometimes i appreciate when brothers or sisters in Christ share with me what God has shown THEM
when did my friends list ,on here, ask for your opinion.
who appionted me your friend, or teacher. do you see the problem
 
Aug 15, 2009
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Yeah I read it and posted my response.....Show a N.T. example of it.....not some vague verse from the O.T. which has no bearing on N.T. capacity worship was my point!
I've been in several of those over the years.

They are getting rare, though.
 

mailmandan

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the point of the question was

is there a harsher form of hell

or is there a different standard

i know for a fact there is a different standard assuming what i have learned so far is true

but the possibility of a WORSE punishment is something ive considered with less evidence to back it up
I believe that the Bible suggests there are degrees of punishment in hell, as we saw in Matthew 23:14 - "greater condemnation."

Also, read what Jesus said in Matthew 11:21 - Jesus said, “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 Nevertheless I say to you, it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment, than for you. 23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You shall descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. 24 “Nevertheless I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you."

The statement, "it will be more tolerable" certainly suggests degrees of some sort. Yet, this revolves around the amount of revelation received and rejected. Regardless, they will be in hell because they never trusted in Christ for salvation. The greater the revelation, the greater the responsibility to receive it and thus the greater the condemnation as well. We certainly see that with the Pharisees.