Not By Works
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Nope. Faith is required Why? Because without faith you will not be saved, withour salvation you will not work.
See how you are boasting of your works here. Yet you just yelled at three people for declaring you boasted about your works.
Mere belief will not save anyone.. True faith saved, True faith works, We are not saved by works, we are saved UNTO WORKS. (once again you have it backwards)
No faith, no salvation, those people were condemned because they had no faith, not because they had no works.
a faithful servant WILL obey. When you add the word MUST, you are preaching legalism. It states you can EARN salvation. You can't. not in this lifetime, not in the next. ALL jave sinned and fall short.
You claim you must earn your salvation by works, This you are claiming your works may or will earn you eternal life.
That is boasting.
Not of works lest anyone should boast.
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by Gods mercy HE SAVED US
is is not dificult.
See how you are boasting of your works here. Yet you just yelled at three people for declaring you boasted about your works.
Mere belief will not save anyone.. True faith saved, True faith works, We are not saved by works, we are saved UNTO WORKS. (once again you have it backwards)
No faith, no salvation, those people were condemned because they had no faith, not because they had no works.
a faithful servant WILL obey. When you add the word MUST, you are preaching legalism. It states you can EARN salvation. You can't. not in this lifetime, not in the next. ALL jave sinned and fall short.
You claim you must earn your salvation by works, This you are claiming your works may or will earn you eternal life.
That is boasting.
Not of works lest anyone should boast.
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by Gods mercy HE SAVED US
is is not dificult.
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The word dead translated from the Greek in context James 2:17, 20) means inoperative
Universally, destitute of force or power, inactive, inoperative: τῇ ἁμαρτία, unaffected by the desire to sin (cf. Winers Grammar, 210 (199); Buttmann, § 133, 12), Romans 6:11; of things: ἁμαρτία, Romans 7:8; πίστις, James 2:17, 20 (R G), 26; ἔργα, powerless and fruitless (see ἔργον, 3, p. 248b bottom), Hebrews 6:1; Hebrews 9:14. (Cf. θνητός, at the end)
A faith that does not have works is ineffective because it does not bear witness to others which is the whole purpose of James
writing to the Jewish believers who were learning about how to live knowing that had been justified by faith in Christ.
Universally, destitute of force or power, inactive, inoperative: τῇ ἁμαρτία, unaffected by the desire to sin (cf. Winers Grammar, 210 (199); Buttmann, § 133, 12), Romans 6:11; of things: ἁμαρτία, Romans 7:8; πίστις, James 2:17, 20 (R G), 26; ἔργα, powerless and fruitless (see ἔργον, 3, p. 248b bottom), Hebrews 6:1; Hebrews 9:14. (Cf. θνητός, at the end)
A faith that does not have works is ineffective because it does not bear witness to others which is the whole purpose of James
writing to the Jewish believers who were learning about how to live knowing that had been justified by faith in Christ.
Both you and garee should take the advice in your last paragraph.
How you abuse other Christian's is shameful.
Persons who are sharing God's word.
What are you doing here but gloating about your self righteousness?
Typical for those who believe that GOD is to serve them.
The demonic doctrine that you believe.
More lost than an unbeliever...
Jesus said that those who say they understand are more responsible and more under judgement.
Since YOU say you believe...
Pray to have half of the spirit of God that the one you undermine has.
Pray to learn the truth.
How you abuse other Christian's is shameful.
Persons who are sharing God's word.
What are you doing here but gloating about your self righteousness?
Typical for those who believe that GOD is to serve them.
The demonic doctrine that you believe.
More lost than an unbeliever...
Jesus said that those who say they understand are more responsible and more under judgement.
Since YOU say you believe...
Pray to have half of the spirit of God that the one you undermine has.
Pray to learn the truth.
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Fine then, Go on thinking what you believe. someone who does not desire to see the riches of Go word.
The greek word means bankrupt. One who does snot become spiritually bankrupt will not enter the kingdom of God.
anyone who thinks they are or can be worthy has not become spiritually bankrupt
The tax collector was bankrupt. as Jesus said, he went home justified.
All I have shown is I disagree with you and why. But hey, I guess you just showed yourself.
The greek word means bankrupt. One who does snot become spiritually bankrupt will not enter the kingdom of God.
anyone who thinks they are or can be worthy has not become spiritually bankrupt
The tax collector was bankrupt. as Jesus said, he went home justified.
All I have shown is I disagree with you and why. But hey, I guess you just showed yourself.
I agree...we can "like" a post that someone does and still not agree with other posts they do. This doesn't mean that we can now publicly assault them because of some other belief they have.
Sometimes in one post we can "like" certain aspects of it but not agree with it all too. We can also agree with the truth in the post but not in the "way" it was used to attack another believer in Christ.
Sometimes in one post we can "like" certain aspects of it but not agree with it all too. We can also agree with the truth in the post but not in the "way" it was used to attack another believer in Christ.
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The Bible does make it clear that we are to work in order to confirm that we are among the called and chosen. But my experience over many years has shown me that very, very few Christians know about the passages that command us to do this. And when they do see them, they can only understand 'works' in one way, as trying to earn your salvation. It's very disturbing that so many people in the church can only understand works that way.