For my KJB supporting brethren
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It would be ok if when I place a scripture on line and add KJV (so you know why there is a difference if so); The other bible users did not attack us because of the KJV...I am here to defend God's WORD...IF you want to read something else, it is 'no skin off my nose".
If you don't want to hear about KJV and it's near perfection, then don't read a thread such as this. If I rem correctly, a person placed video's concerning the attack against the KJV. I personally like them.But then we have these experts that was to argue for the sake of argument.
WHy Sure it is!!!!! It is your inability to Believe in GOD's Word from the KJV that has been proven to within 1-2% error of the originals... OH, I'll bet you think the originals are not error free either.
Well, one cannot say, this chapter is ok and that chapter is not. It does not work that way. The OT and the NT work together.
The NT Revelation written in 94-95AD has 404 verses within its 22 chapters and over 800 allusions to the OT. In fact it will take you to every Book in the OT with the exception of one and I along with others are searching for that connection with that book.
As I stated.... one does not have to make a ninety degree course change to in effect spoil the whole barrel. Only a sentence here and there..a word here, a word there this year..... Same thing next year, and the next and the next and pretty soon you don't have any resemblance to the Holy Bible much less the KJV.
In any advent, 2 Tim 3:16-17..."16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
Where did you get these numbers? How has it been proven?
The KJV differs even from the majority text in over 1,800 places. And the KJVO advocates say that the majority text is the preserved text.
"All Scriptures" does not refer to "the KJV Bible translation, compilation and print of 1611". Paul meant something different, really.
The KJV differs even from the majority text in over 1,800 places. And the KJVO advocates say that the majority text is the preserved text.
"All Scriptures" does not refer to "the KJV Bible translation, compilation and print of 1611". Paul meant something different, really.
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"to the group I created" .. bet your Proud as a peacock..so was Satan when he fell.
Having said that, I think that a group of 6 people or less as a Home CHurch is the way to go these days. Especially since in the U.S. most denomiantions have become or are leaning toward Preterism. Even some of the Baptist including the Surthern Baptist are leaning toward this Eschatology. A false teaching to be sure.
Hang in there...just do be so proud about it....If you really want to think about it. Once you are in "Christ" (reborn) the Holy Spirit will guide you, teach you and protect you. Thus, YOUR creation of a CC was His idea not yours.
I guess I am one of those Christians that are out-spoken... The Truth Hurts doesn't it
I take it you do not understand the process for producing a book thru transliteration with the same results as the earlier Scripts (Septuagint, etc.) much less the time it took to produce it. THe KJV is the fourth of such books from the church of England. THe final version, following the reclamation took for 1604 and 1611 to reprint making sure it was God's Word....
Do you think that GOD did not/ was not there to make sure that it was exactly what HE said:????
If not , then you got problems my friend and if so then why are you arguing on the wrong side.... Sounds like a problem there as well.
It all comes down to faith in GOD..... TO have Faith in Jesus CHrist as your savior and His Gospel, one also has to have total faith in HIS WORD. In my opinion and the same opinion of several million others, the KJV represent the Word of God .
It is your faith that is tested every time you pick up the Bible and know you are reading His WORDS as He said them.
I take it you do not understand the process for producing a book thru transliteration with the same results as the earlier Scripts (Septuagint, etc.) much less the time it took to produce it. THe KJV is the fourth of such books from the church of England. THe final version, following the reclamation took for 1604 and 1611 to reprint making sure it was God's Word....
Do you think that GOD did not/ was not there to make sure that it was exactly what HE said:????
If not , then you got problems my friend and if so then why are you arguing on the wrong side.... Sounds like a problem there as well.
It all comes down to faith in GOD..... TO have Faith in Jesus CHrist as your savior and His Gospel, one also has to have total faith in HIS WORD. In my opinion and the same opinion of several million others, the KJV represent the Word of God .
It is your faith that is tested every time you pick up the Bible and know you are reading His WORDS as He said them.
Well would you rest your soul on the KJV ? I will place it in God .As you stated above it has errors around 1% that is over 3000 wrong words or over 300 incorrect verses . Or 120 word translation errors . That's just 1% bro you stated 1% to 2% so it can be more .
Lets put our faith for salvation in Christ not a translation.
Blessings
Bill
Lets put our faith for salvation in Christ not a translation.
Blessings
Bill
I'm really not sure what you're on about here. You can be outspoken without being unpleasant. You don't need to imply heinous behaviour on the part of another Christian. You don't need to make unwarranted assumptions about people who happen to disagree with you. That is the tactic of small-minded people who cannot defend their beliefs with truth. I think you're capable of better behaviour.
I'm having difficulty following your train of thought, because your sentence structure is so poor. I think you mean translation, not transliteration (they are not the same thing!).
By exactly the same reasoning, do you think God was not present in the development of the NIV, the NASB or the ESV to ensure that they said exactly what He wanted them to? Your question is indefensible. Your conclusion is another personal attack instead of a reasonable argument.
Your assertion is a non sequitur.
If you want to read only the KJV, fine with me. If you want to believe that the KJV is the only word of God in English, fine with me. If you want to assert such on this forum, I will challenge your assertions as I see fit. That doesn't make me a non-Christian, or an inferior Christian, or a less-knowledgeable Christian. It means we see things differently, and we both have our reasons for doing so. Stop denigrating people who disagree with you, stick to the issues, and be prepared to defend your assertions rationally and reasonably. Anything less will be disregarded as inadequate or irrelevant. If you choose to argue your position like a school boy, expect to be treated like one.
I'm having difficulty following your train of thought, because your sentence structure is so poor. I think you mean translation, not transliteration (they are not the same thing!).
By exactly the same reasoning, do you think God was not present in the development of the NIV, the NASB or the ESV to ensure that they said exactly what He wanted them to? Your question is indefensible. Your conclusion is another personal attack instead of a reasonable argument.
Your assertion is a non sequitur.
If you want to read only the KJV, fine with me. If you want to believe that the KJV is the only word of God in English, fine with me. If you want to assert such on this forum, I will challenge your assertions as I see fit. That doesn't make me a non-Christian, or an inferior Christian, or a less-knowledgeable Christian. It means we see things differently, and we both have our reasons for doing so. Stop denigrating people who disagree with you, stick to the issues, and be prepared to defend your assertions rationally and reasonably. Anything less will be disregarded as inadequate or irrelevant. If you choose to argue your position like a school boy, expect to be treated like one.
You left out one.....How about chapters ending to soon or too late..But does it make a difference..
As far as your silly question about my soul on the KJV.... Since I believe it is 100% God's WORD, I don't think I will have problems.
What book is it that makes you belief in Jesus Christ... What Book tells you the whole truth about what He Said to everybody.
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You said "Lets put our faith for salvation in Christ not a translation."
I was once told that once you were saved, you were always saved....... The more I research this subject, the more I have to agree.
The problem is ,,, How can one be fallen from the Grace of God?
The answer to that is, YOU were never Saved to start with!
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If You believe that God is in total control then How can you believe that He will allow mankind to corrupt His WORDS?
If you do not believe that God is in total control and/or that God would/has let Mankind corrupt His WORDS?
Then how can you Believe in Jesus Christ completely? All of HIM?
And Last question,,, If you cannot totally believe in Jesus Christ,,,,, Can you be Really Saved?
I am not trying to be facetious here but I think everyone needs to answer the above Questions.