For my KJB supporting brethren
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Indeed and somethings that got translated in the 1611 were down right weird, King James instructed that the word congregation was to be translated to church, why well because he wanted to satisfy the puritans who were in charge of the Church of England no doubt to please them. If he didn't were else was the KJV going to be used in those days if not the Church of England.
You wrote in response to Trofimus the following: “You and I cannot debate the verses because I read them as the literal Word of GOD and you read them as symbols, allusions enabling you to turn scripture around making it say anything that is convenient for your lifestyle and/or world views or for pressing an Ideaology on the uninformed,” and, “NO, the KJV is the WORD of GOD and it can be proven although not to those who are blinded as your (sic) are!”
To Test_F_i_2_Luv you wrote, “’to the group I created’ .. (sic) bet your (sic) Proud (sic) as a peacock..so (sic) was Satan when he fell.”
This is called argumentum ad hominem, a Latin phrase used in logic and debate meaning, “an attack on the person”. It doesn’t address the issue under discussion, and rather is a personal insult intended to cast doubt on the person and by extension, their ideas. It’s unnecessary and inappropriate. Saying that what you are doing is just “calling a spade a spade” is making excuses for sin.
Where have I been out of control?
One of your fellow KJV-only proponents has debunked this view with Scripture. Please see post #205 and take it up with him.
You didn't read carefully enough. I didn't call you a school boy, and I didn't call you small-minded. I implied that your arguing is like that of a small-minded person or a school boy - full of bluster, unsubstantiated assertions, baseless accusations, name calling, logical fallacies, and general dearth of anything approaching academic merit. You can choose to focus on the issues and not attack people personally. I don’t know to which cartoon slur you refer.
My statement, “I think you can do better,” is intended as an encouragement to act in a Christlike manner and to treat your brothers in Christ with the respect that your claim to faith in Him warrants.
You also stated that you don’t have time to make your sentence structure meet my standard. I only have a standard for myself. However, some of your sentences are so poorly constructed that I honestly cannot determine your meaning. If you choose not to take the time to make sense, your contributions will be disregarded.
I simply took your statement to its logical conclusion, which is fair game in discussion. It’s not an attempt to trick anyone or “gum the works”, but hopefully to have you think through your position or statement more thoroughly so that you can recognize its weaknesses. If someone you trusted and respected explained to you how your argument was unreasonable, illogical or just plain silly, would you listen?
To Test_F_i_2_Luv you wrote, “’to the group I created’ .. (sic) bet your (sic) Proud (sic) as a peacock..so (sic) was Satan when he fell.”
This is called argumentum ad hominem, a Latin phrase used in logic and debate meaning, “an attack on the person”. It doesn’t address the issue under discussion, and rather is a personal insult intended to cast doubt on the person and by extension, their ideas. It’s unnecessary and inappropriate. Saying that what you are doing is just “calling a spade a spade” is making excuses for sin.
Where have I been out of control?
One of your fellow KJV-only proponents has debunked this view with Scripture. Please see post #205 and take it up with him.
You didn't read carefully enough. I didn't call you a school boy, and I didn't call you small-minded. I implied that your arguing is like that of a small-minded person or a school boy - full of bluster, unsubstantiated assertions, baseless accusations, name calling, logical fallacies, and general dearth of anything approaching academic merit. You can choose to focus on the issues and not attack people personally. I don’t know to which cartoon slur you refer.
My statement, “I think you can do better,” is intended as an encouragement to act in a Christlike manner and to treat your brothers in Christ with the respect that your claim to faith in Him warrants.
You also stated that you don’t have time to make your sentence structure meet my standard. I only have a standard for myself. However, some of your sentences are so poorly constructed that I honestly cannot determine your meaning. If you choose not to take the time to make sense, your contributions will be disregarded.
I simply took your statement to its logical conclusion, which is fair game in discussion. It’s not an attempt to trick anyone or “gum the works”, but hopefully to have you think through your position or statement more thoroughly so that you can recognize its weaknesses. If someone you trusted and respected explained to you how your argument was unreasonable, illogical or just plain silly, would you listen?
Actually, Christ wanted to have a Church, full of various gifts, one is teacher, one is preacher, one knows this, one knows that.
No, we are not meant to read only one book and ignore everything else.
BTW how do you think you got the KJV? Many people and many scholars had to work hard to create it. And, surprise, they worked with outside sources.
No, we are not meant to read only one book and ignore everything else.
BTW how do you think you got the KJV? Many people and many scholars had to work hard to create it. And, surprise, they worked with outside sources.
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Well then the kjv (1611) is not Gods word then because you have to go to an outside source to understand it,
You may have grown up with it, and it is normal to you, I grew up with it untill I was 17 then changed bibl s when my parents got me a new one,
when i I tried to read an old kjv a few years ago, I was lost, it was like reading a foreign language. Which t most people today, it is,
Which is why a few months back you argued that "bottles" instead of "wineskins" is still an appropriate word, and you claimed that "bottles" meant "glass bottles". Then you went on to claim that the cork stopper would retain the gas pressure as the grape juice fermented. Your insistence upon not needing outside information led you directly to a completely-incorrect conclusion. I have not seen a retraction of your error.
I wonder how the Only's explain the Easter blunder here:
Acts 12:3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
Acts 12:3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.