How can you really really really know you are saved?
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I understand the OP's question and frustration since it's one many Christians have asked at one time or another. It takes a long time for some to know about themselves when they have at first been misinformed and lived in and from their misinformation.
Some have had to take on the journey as a day by day hour by hour minute by minute stepping out and re learning how to think. Thank God we have been given the Holy Spirit to witness to us and teach and guide us. We can always count on Him to show us the truth., even about ourselves.
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To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.
(John 10:3-5)
Hi Bogadile, I think I'm gonna hang around with you and doubting Thomas until Jesus comes around to make things right.
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know, because we don't know.
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I have no doubt that Jesus Christ the son of Mary is the Lord of Heaven and Earth.
I have no doubt of His virgin birth, His lineage to sit on the throne of David, His ministry as the Son of Man to a lost and hurting world.
I have no doubts that He walked as both totally human and totally God. I have no doubts that He was tempted by Satan, walked on water, healed the sick, raised the dead, fed thousands with 5 loaves and 2 fish.
I have no doubt He forgave the sinners, gave sight to the blind and turned water into wine.
I have no doubt He allowed Himself to be arrested, tortured and hung on a cross as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of man.
I have no doubt that He died and was raised on the third day, was witnessed by many, ascended to heaven, sits at the right hand of the Father and will come again to take His followers to paradise.
I believe all of this and much more because I have no doubt that the Bible is the Word of God.
During my 34 years as a Christian I have never seen a single supernatural event to support my belief. Yet I believe.
I am not a doubting Thomas, I am a believer.
Because I disagree with many on this thread about assurance does not mean I doubt, it means I disagree.
I could easily turn the subject around and claim you are a doubting Thomas since you doubt the need to be ever watchful.
But I will not.
I have no doubt of His virgin birth, His lineage to sit on the throne of David, His ministry as the Son of Man to a lost and hurting world.
I have no doubts that He walked as both totally human and totally God. I have no doubts that He was tempted by Satan, walked on water, healed the sick, raised the dead, fed thousands with 5 loaves and 2 fish.
I have no doubt He forgave the sinners, gave sight to the blind and turned water into wine.
I have no doubt He allowed Himself to be arrested, tortured and hung on a cross as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of man.
I have no doubt that He died and was raised on the third day, was witnessed by many, ascended to heaven, sits at the right hand of the Father and will come again to take His followers to paradise.
I believe all of this and much more because I have no doubt that the Bible is the Word of God.
During my 34 years as a Christian I have never seen a single supernatural event to support my belief. Yet I believe.
I am not a doubting Thomas, I am a believer.
Because I disagree with many on this thread about assurance does not mean I doubt, it means I disagree.
I could easily turn the subject around and claim you are a doubting Thomas since you doubt the need to be ever watchful.
But I will not.
Yet do you believe on the name of the Son of God and know that you have eternal life? (1 John 5:13). You clearly believe in the existence and historical facts about Christ, BUT do you actually believe on the Lord Jesus Christ? (Acts 16:31)
In other words, do you believe/entrust your spiritual well being to Christ; have faith/reliance upon Christ for salvation? Are you trusting in the death, burial and resurrection Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of your salvation (Romans 1:16) or are you also trusting in works for salvation?
In other words, do you believe/entrust your spiritual well being to Christ; have faith/reliance upon Christ for salvation? Are you trusting in the death, burial and resurrection Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of your salvation (Romans 1:16) or are you also trusting in works for salvation?
How do you know you save?
Jesus told how the last judgement will base on, in matt 7 and matt 25
not the one who say Lord, But the one who do the will of the Father.
Matt 25 give further explanation, what saved doing during they live on earth, love the needy.
that information give us a clue whether we saved or not
Jesus told how the last judgement will base on, in matt 7 and matt 25
not the one who say Lord, But the one who do the will of the Father.
Matt 25 give further explanation, what saved doing during they live on earth, love the needy.
that information give us a clue whether we saved or not
Thank you for your kind words but I suspect many here equate "peace with your faith" as 100% assurance of salvation. I have peace with my faith but I do not agree that it is possible to have 100% assurance that we are right.
If this is possible, explain the assurance of:
those who yell "Adu Akbar" before their "martyrdom".
the kamikazes dying for their emperor.
those who drank the Kool-Aid before getting on the Hale-Bop spaceship.
and sadly, etc. etc. etc.
If our faith is based on the assurance of "I am saved", we are mistaken. Those who put out their lamp because they have been assured of salvation no longer have the ability to test themselves. After all who test a sure thing.
If this is possible, explain the assurance of:
those who yell "Adu Akbar" before their "martyrdom".
the kamikazes dying for their emperor.
those who drank the Kool-Aid before getting on the Hale-Bop spaceship.
and sadly, etc. etc. etc.
If our faith is based on the assurance of "I am saved", we are mistaken. Those who put out their lamp because they have been assured of salvation no longer have the ability to test themselves. After all who test a sure thing.
Okay times up!
The Bible is true not because the Bible proclaims itself to be true but because of the following.
The Bible in physical form is but paper and ink. The Bible in historical form is a collection of writings from numerous men, on a variety of topics, at vastly different times, from a multitude of cultures. Each writer was unique in their place in society, from poor shepherds, rich rulers, poets, refugees, prisoners, judges, the educated and uneducated. The Bible is a testament of what they were appointed to record.
Yet through this hodgepodge of different angles, views, needs and expectations, one thing is allured to: a messiah, a king, a savior.
When this savior appeared, He fulfilled that what was promised by the first testament and so began the "new" testament. With the same forces that formed the first testament now came the second. A testament of that promised savior. It is these facts that I base my belief in the Bible as the Word of God.
No book has been attacked more then the Bible and yet no testament has both survived and flourished as these 66 books.
My words do not prove that the Bible is the Word of God but it is why I believe it to be so. No work of man can compare, which is why I do not believe it to be the work of men.
I have lived my life with this understanding but if I am wrong, what a pitiful person am I. (1st Corinthians 15:12-19)
The Bible is true not because the Bible proclaims itself to be true but because of the following.
The Bible in physical form is but paper and ink. The Bible in historical form is a collection of writings from numerous men, on a variety of topics, at vastly different times, from a multitude of cultures. Each writer was unique in their place in society, from poor shepherds, rich rulers, poets, refugees, prisoners, judges, the educated and uneducated. The Bible is a testament of what they were appointed to record.
Yet through this hodgepodge of different angles, views, needs and expectations, one thing is allured to: a messiah, a king, a savior.
When this savior appeared, He fulfilled that what was promised by the first testament and so began the "new" testament. With the same forces that formed the first testament now came the second. A testament of that promised savior. It is these facts that I base my belief in the Bible as the Word of God.
No book has been attacked more then the Bible and yet no testament has both survived and flourished as these 66 books.
My words do not prove that the Bible is the Word of God but it is why I believe it to be so. No work of man can compare, which is why I do not believe it to be the work of men.
I have lived my life with this understanding but if I am wrong, what a pitiful person am I. (1st Corinthians 15:12-19)
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