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I have worked hard at my logic. It is particularly important to me because I am a woman, thus instinct goes with react-by-emotions.
That said, so you understand I really do appreciate rational advise.
BUT, look carefully at what you've said, and compare it to how people responded to it. (You don't even have to answer every response. I'm honestly asking you to think out the logic of what was said on both sides -- yours and everyone else.) And honestly ask yourself if your logic is working.
Time and time again, folks have told why it isn't.
And then once you start questioning exactly how logical you are, then take it one step further. Since your logic isn't working, (not trying to be mean here. If my logic isn't working, I want people to tell me why not), is your heart doing any better?
Now, the natural man -- the emotional man (or woman) -- is going to go with, "of course." BUT then you have to go back to remember, your brain isn't working right either. You thought it was logical, but it was proved illogical.
That leaves you at a place everyone here has already been. (We really have. And, if we have not, then we're still where you are.) Since you cannot trust your own brain or heart, where do you go? What do you do?
Sure, you can see a shrink, but I don't think you're that kind of loss. You're problem is you were born in a world full of people who all think they're thinking and feeling right. But they aren't. The nut jobs in England running large vehicles into pedestrians? The whackos shooting Senators or ramming their cars into protesters in the States? The maniacs hating women and children enough to enact Sharia Laws? The simple dude who thinks purse snatching is the obvious thing to do. They all think they are just as rational and heart driven as you do.
We're all whacked! We can't think right or feel right. That requires the Lord to heal us of our very corrupted minds and hearts.
So when you go back and search out exactly how illogical you are, please! Do the obvious. Ask! Ask us what you want to know about the Lord -- the real Lord, Not the Red-Letter-Jesus you don't really follow at all.
He's right there. All you have to do is get to the point of realizing how much you need him. ALL of him!
That said, so you understand I really do appreciate rational advise.
BUT, look carefully at what you've said, and compare it to how people responded to it. (You don't even have to answer every response. I'm honestly asking you to think out the logic of what was said on both sides -- yours and everyone else.) And honestly ask yourself if your logic is working.
Time and time again, folks have told why it isn't.
And then once you start questioning exactly how logical you are, then take it one step further. Since your logic isn't working, (not trying to be mean here. If my logic isn't working, I want people to tell me why not), is your heart doing any better?
Now, the natural man -- the emotional man (or woman) -- is going to go with, "of course." BUT then you have to go back to remember, your brain isn't working right either. You thought it was logical, but it was proved illogical.
That leaves you at a place everyone here has already been. (We really have. And, if we have not, then we're still where you are.) Since you cannot trust your own brain or heart, where do you go? What do you do?
Sure, you can see a shrink, but I don't think you're that kind of loss. You're problem is you were born in a world full of people who all think they're thinking and feeling right. But they aren't. The nut jobs in England running large vehicles into pedestrians? The whackos shooting Senators or ramming their cars into protesters in the States? The maniacs hating women and children enough to enact Sharia Laws? The simple dude who thinks purse snatching is the obvious thing to do. They all think they are just as rational and heart driven as you do.
We're all whacked! We can't think right or feel right. That requires the Lord to heal us of our very corrupted minds and hearts.
So when you go back and search out exactly how illogical you are, please! Do the obvious. Ask! Ask us what you want to know about the Lord -- the real Lord, Not the Red-Letter-Jesus you don't really follow at all.
He's right there. All you have to do is get to the point of realizing how much you need him. ALL of him!
God has not changed. It seems like He was more active, or more mean in the Old Testament, but this is because things were done physically in the Old Testament that are now done spiritually in the New Testament. When King David physically killed his tens of thousands, it represented how Christians today spiritually kill tens of thousands.
Both were killing evil. When we get baptized, or baptize others, the person dies to their self, buries their old sinful self in the watery grave of baptism, and are raised a new creature in Christ. But no one is shocked at that, saying "How could you kill the person they used to be! So what if they had faults, I liked their personality, and now they have Christ's personality. How boring!"
You have to understand that God knows things before they happen, and it is He Who decides which soul is put into which body, and which timeframe they will be born in. Therefore He can put all the people that He knows will be evil, into the babies, women, children, and men who would die during wars in which He commanded that all be killed. There were some lands that the Israelites took over that God commanded them to spare the women and children. This shows that He is in control, and has reasons for His decisions.
If you think that God does not speak against homosexuality in the New Testament, you need to read Romans chapter one. Again, God does not change, He's just as against it as He was in the Old Testament. Him physically destroying Sodom and Gamorah represented how He will spiritually destroy homosexuals and murderers (hell/second death). God is just as much against evil as He has always been, and always will be.
Both were killing evil. When we get baptized, or baptize others, the person dies to their self, buries their old sinful self in the watery grave of baptism, and are raised a new creature in Christ. But no one is shocked at that, saying "How could you kill the person they used to be! So what if they had faults, I liked their personality, and now they have Christ's personality. How boring!"
You have to understand that God knows things before they happen, and it is He Who decides which soul is put into which body, and which timeframe they will be born in. Therefore He can put all the people that He knows will be evil, into the babies, women, children, and men who would die during wars in which He commanded that all be killed. There were some lands that the Israelites took over that God commanded them to spare the women and children. This shows that He is in control, and has reasons for His decisions.
If you think that God does not speak against homosexuality in the New Testament, you need to read Romans chapter one. Again, God does not change, He's just as against it as He was in the Old Testament. Him physically destroying Sodom and Gamorah represented how He will spiritually destroy homosexuals and murderers (hell/second death). God is just as much against evil as He has always been, and always will be.
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Hmmm...
So if i do no more than teach my child how to read, then given him/her a Bible ((KJV of course, "Authorized version")), and then i turn them loose in the world without further guidance, advice, explanation or conversation they should be fine?
So if i do no more than teach my child how to read, then given him/her a Bible ((KJV of course, "Authorized version")), and then i turn them loose in the world without further guidance, advice, explanation or conversation they should be fine?
God is not a man as us.
We do not seek His approval through men
So if you were to teach a child what to believe and send them out into the world with another gospel, another Christ could we say they are seeking the approval of God?
The faith (Christ's) to believe God does not come seeking the approval of a person's parents or any man. To seek after a faith that comes from trusting men is blasphemy.
The warning in 1 John 2 reveals the the man of sin the antichrist. That chapter gives us all we need to know to spot the antichrists.
Has he gifted them with infallibility?
Need no. The warning is in regard to those who say we do need an man to teach us. Not can they teach or should they teach.
Do we need to heed the warning and rather than following the commandment to seek after the approval of God when rightly dividing His word .
Do we give over that approval to men?
How do we reconcile that God has given us teachers but warns us of those who say we need men to teach us as we seek their approval .
Need no. The warning is in regard to those who say we do need an man to teach us. Not can they teach or should they teach.
Do we need to heed the warning and rather than following the commandment to seek after the approval of God when rightly dividing His word .
Do we give over that approval to men?
How do we reconcile that God has given us teachers but warns us of those who say we need men to teach us as we seek their approval .
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Christ has a two fold ministry.
The OT depicts both of those ministries...but the NT depicts one ministry until all has been accomplished...and then that other ministry will begin.
Just as Luke 4 shows CHRIST announcing HIS public ministry and stopping midpoint in Isaiah 61:2...and declaring Today, scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.
If you continued on in Isaiah 61:2, you would see that the second part of HIS ministry is the DAY of Vengeance of OUR GOD...
That day has not yet come.
It is still the year of GOD's Favor...
The OT depicts both of those ministries...but the NT depicts one ministry until all has been accomplished...and then that other ministry will begin.
Just as Luke 4 shows CHRIST announcing HIS public ministry and stopping midpoint in Isaiah 61:2...and declaring Today, scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.
If you continued on in Isaiah 61:2, you would see that the second part of HIS ministry is the DAY of Vengeance of OUR GOD...
That day has not yet come.
It is still the year of GOD's Favor...
Hi Beta,
Your question has nothing to do with my question. It's also one I can't answer because there are false churches, just as there are false teachers. And I'm not God so I don't know what is going on in the churches in my own town, let alone my state, the nation or the world.
What I asked is if the gift of teacher is still in use today?
