Public apology to liberals: We need to work together to save the world--
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You are welcome, Darlene 
Thank you as always for the kind words...
I am glad to hear that you and Jerry survived Irma intact
When and where's the party?
Thank you as always for the kind words...I am glad to hear that you and Jerry survived Irma intact
When and where's the party?
K
I feel so bad for those in FL and Texas and what they're dealing with. Ive been on the Gulf Coast several times and its so beautiful,but I don't think I could survive that heat without AC. Im from Canada originally,I think Im like a turkey,Im still frozen in the middle! My husband complains that I keep the bedroom too cool.lol
K
Well first I appreciate the word "elucidate". Ive been told I use too many big words that people don't understand,imagine that! Im relatively new to the US,I wasn't born here,I've spent about 16yrs. here. So Im speaking from my experience.
The first point I'd disagree with is that liberals want to help people and Republicans do not. Progressive liberals want socialism and as Margret Thatcher said " The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money". Or Churchill who said "There are two places only where socialism will work; in heaven where it is not needed,and in hell where they already have it."Its quite easy to be generous with someone else's money. I personally don't agree with cradle to grave care.I believe in small government and I believe the facts show this to be the best form of government. I believe that we have too many entitlements that are being abused.I believe there are people who do need care,the elderly,the debilitated,vets. But far too many people in this country are depending on the gov't and the middle class are footing the bill.
Secondly I do not think that liberals and conservative hate each other,yet. I believe that the fringe groups in both parties are pushing us to what may come down to a civil war. Sooner or later the insane are going to run the asylum if the majority of both parties,who are middle of the road,don't stand up and put a stop to the nonsense. So far,I don't see that happening.
The problem,one of several,with American politics is that it has gotten so ugly,down in the dirt street fighting that no one with a modicum of sense would ever want to run for office,let alone put their wife and children through it. So now who do we have to run? Not many are stepping forward,just the same old guard.That's how I see the situation,though I'm sure others disagree.Unless the middle of both parties come together and commiserate, I see the country growing further and further apart. And it's disheartening.
The first point I'd disagree with is that liberals want to help people and Republicans do not. Progressive liberals want socialism and as Margret Thatcher said " The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money". Or Churchill who said "There are two places only where socialism will work; in heaven where it is not needed,and in hell where they already have it."Its quite easy to be generous with someone else's money. I personally don't agree with cradle to grave care.I believe in small government and I believe the facts show this to be the best form of government. I believe that we have too many entitlements that are being abused.I believe there are people who do need care,the elderly,the debilitated,vets. But far too many people in this country are depending on the gov't and the middle class are footing the bill.
Secondly I do not think that liberals and conservative hate each other,yet. I believe that the fringe groups in both parties are pushing us to what may come down to a civil war. Sooner or later the insane are going to run the asylum if the majority of both parties,who are middle of the road,don't stand up and put a stop to the nonsense. So far,I don't see that happening.
The problem,one of several,with American politics is that it has gotten so ugly,down in the dirt street fighting that no one with a modicum of sense would ever want to run for office,let alone put their wife and children through it. So now who do we have to run? Not many are stepping forward,just the same old guard.That's how I see the situation,though I'm sure others disagree.Unless the middle of both parties come together and commiserate, I see the country growing further and further apart. And it's disheartening.
K
A number of seniors died in care homes post Irma while the power was out...
There are some compromises not worth it for "love and unity". To love others is to stand for the Truth so that they may believe & be saved. If we set our beliefs and faith aside, then all we are doing is putting their minds at ease as if Who we believe in is not really that important to them; just to us, and yet God will judge every one whether they believe in Him or not.
You may be for peace and unity as far as society needs to be to get along in a society in respecting one another as doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, but if it ever comes to denying Him in public just so an atheist will feel better or not to offend Muslims or Jews, then that is one unity that is not really based on peace at all, but a silence enforced by hatred.
Matthew 10:[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. [SUP]34 [/SUP]Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. [SUP]35 [/SUP]For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. [SUP]36 [/SUP]And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. [SUP]37 [/SUP]He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. [SUP]38 [/SUP]And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. [SUP]39 [/SUP]He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. [SUP]40 [/SUP]He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. [SUP]41 [/SUP]He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. [SUP]42 [/SUP]And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
It is one thing when someone does not want to hear it, but it is another when those who do not want to hear it and yet they force you into silence while they continue to use their freedom to voice their views and even force their beliefs on others.
Like it or not, Christians are to be persecuted by the world for standing up for the Truth so that others may believe & be saved.
John 16:[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
We know Who to go to for help to know when to speak for Him to those that seek Him and not to speak to those who do not care to hear Him at all.
Matthew 7:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: [SUP]8 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
1 Peter 3:[SUP]15 [/SUP]But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
You may be for peace and unity as far as society needs to be to get along in a society in respecting one another as doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, but if it ever comes to denying Him in public just so an atheist will feel better or not to offend Muslims or Jews, then that is one unity that is not really based on peace at all, but a silence enforced by hatred.
Matthew 10:[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. [SUP]34 [/SUP]Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. [SUP]35 [/SUP]For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. [SUP]36 [/SUP]And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. [SUP]37 [/SUP]He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. [SUP]38 [/SUP]And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. [SUP]39 [/SUP]He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. [SUP]40 [/SUP]He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. [SUP]41 [/SUP]He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. [SUP]42 [/SUP]And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
It is one thing when someone does not want to hear it, but it is another when those who do not want to hear it and yet they force you into silence while they continue to use their freedom to voice their views and even force their beliefs on others.
Like it or not, Christians are to be persecuted by the world for standing up for the Truth so that others may believe & be saved.
John 16:[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
We know Who to go to for help to know when to speak for Him to those that seek Him and not to speak to those who do not care to hear Him at all.
Matthew 7:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: [SUP]8 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
1 Peter 3:[SUP]15 [/SUP]But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
(Re: Liberals): To be permissive is not to be enlightened. Only things that are rendered thru the Holy Spirit in our lives are truth rendered into reality and enlightenment. We need not work together with those outside of Christ; rather, we are to love all people above ourselves in Christ. This is the enlightenment.
This is the sacrificial life of Christ in us doing the will of the Father over our own will; yet His will will become our will as we mature. I owe liberals no apologies, I owe them Christ. For Christ rules all things and is in all things, and I am apart of His reality (which is simply reality), for there is no truth which is reality without Him in it, worked out thru the Holy Spirit, and not thru our discretion, or our wisdom, or our sensibilities, or our calculations. Reality is always from beyond ourselves given in grace to us. The Church needs to work together (for sure), for this is what God wills, to work together in lifting Christ up so He can do His work in liberals lives and in lives likened to them.
This is the sacrificial life of Christ in us doing the will of the Father over our own will; yet His will will become our will as we mature. I owe liberals no apologies, I owe them Christ. For Christ rules all things and is in all things, and I am apart of His reality (which is simply reality), for there is no truth which is reality without Him in it, worked out thru the Holy Spirit, and not thru our discretion, or our wisdom, or our sensibilities, or our calculations. Reality is always from beyond ourselves given in grace to us. The Church needs to work together (for sure), for this is what God wills, to work together in lifting Christ up so He can do His work in liberals lives and in lives likened to them.
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No, it's more than just a noble gesture-- it's God's commandment: "Love your enemies." There are things I support in the Liberal platform-- so does the LORD Who created the earth-- sustainable environment policies that do not endanger the planet, such as deep-sea drilling, fracking oil drilling, interference with the development of eco-friendly policies...etc...
If we depart from these, it must be temporarily. We as people are not her to destroy this planet!!
Comprendo?
Healthcare, not bashing people who are different, trying to find a way to honor life from conception to natural death-- bi-partisan justice reform that is not designed to destroy the lives of minor offenders and first time offenders-- justice with compassion--etc...these are things liberals and conservatives cdan work togetherh on
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If we depart from these, it must be temporarily. We as people are not her to destroy this planet!!
Comprendo?
Healthcare, not bashing people who are different, trying to find a way to honor life from conception to natural death-- bi-partisan justice reform that is not designed to destroy the lives of minor offenders and first time offenders-- justice with compassion--etc...these are things liberals and conservatives cdan work togetherh on
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Wow., you don't sound like a liberal. (all joking aside)
But hating people is wrong on any level and most if not all here would agree with that. That's my 2cents.
Very nicely said--
God wants us to choose His ways and life willingly and freely--
but, as a conservative, we have to caution that people, without God's guidance, will normally follow the path of least resistance, or entropy--
it's pretty scary at the end of un-checked entropy-- case in point: Sodom and Gommorrah and the surrounding cities.
at the same time, I support some liberal views such as preserving the environment, justice and prison reform, affordable medical care....and not free reign to bash those with different opinions...
God wants us to choose His ways and life willingly and freely--
but, as a conservative, we have to caution that people, without God's guidance, will normally follow the path of least resistance, or entropy--
it's pretty scary at the end of un-checked entropy-- case in point: Sodom and Gommorrah and the surrounding cities.
at the same time, I support some liberal views such as preserving the environment, justice and prison reform, affordable medical care....and not free reign to bash those with different opinions...