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One of the big problems you have question (among many problems) is the fact that you don't know how "reconcile" verses that appear to contradict each other. The Bible does not contradict itself. I will give you perfect example of what I'm talking about just by what you said in the post of yours.
You said, "since NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD- even tho you deny that- despite Moses, John and Jesus saying that." Ok buster, reconcile no man has seen god with Genesis 16:13 where Hagar says the following? "Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, "Thou art a God who sees; for she said, HAVE I EVEN REMAINED ALIVE HERE AFTER SEEING HIM."
Is it not interesting question what Hagar says and then 3 verses later staring at Genesis 17:1,2 the Lord appeares to Abraham and says to him, "I am God Almighty." In short, you don't know what your talking about and you tell me I'm "churchy?" No, I'm "Biblically."
In Him,
bluto
You said, "since NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD- even tho you deny that- despite Moses, John and Jesus saying that." Ok buster, reconcile no man has seen god with Genesis 16:13 where Hagar says the following? "Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, "Thou art a God who sees; for she said, HAVE I EVEN REMAINED ALIVE HERE AFTER SEEING HIM."
Is it not interesting question what Hagar says and then 3 verses later staring at Genesis 17:1,2 the Lord appeares to Abraham and says to him, "I am God Almighty." In short, you don't know what your talking about and you tell me I'm "churchy?" No, I'm "Biblically."
In Him,
bluto
I can understand that.
But perhaps you might want to insert a fake year as to when you got saved along with the fake birthday.
It just makes it hard to take someone seriously when they're blatantly falsifying dates that don't add up. It makes the readers ask, "What else is he lying about? And how can he then claim to both know and teach 'the truth'?"
If you're going to make things up about yourself (though I do understand your reasons), you might want to set up your information as something that at least APPEARS to match.
After all, there's no sense in going just halfway when making something up. Don't feel bad though, people do it all the time.
Oh, and welcome to CC.
But perhaps you might want to insert a fake year as to when you got saved along with the fake birthday.
It just makes it hard to take someone seriously when they're blatantly falsifying dates that don't add up. It makes the readers ask, "What else is he lying about? And how can he then claim to both know and teach 'the truth'?"
If you're going to make things up about yourself (though I do understand your reasons), you might want to set up your information as something that at least APPEARS to match.
After all, there's no sense in going just halfway when making something up.
Don't feel bad though, people do it all the time. Oh, and welcome to CC.
One of the big problems you have question (among many problems) is the fact that you don't know how "reconcile" verses that appear to contradict each other. The Bible does not contradict itself. I will give you perfect example of what I'm talking about just by what you said in the post of yours.
You said, "since NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD- even tho you deny that- despite Moses, John and Jesus saying that." Ok buster, reconcile no man has seen god with Genesis 16:13 where Hagar says the following? "Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, "Thou art a God who sees; for she said, HAVE I EVEN REMAINED ALIVE HERE AFTER SEEING HIM."
Is it not interesting question what Hagar says and then 3 verses later staring at Genesis 17:1,2 the Lord appeares to Abraham and says to him, "I am God Almighty." In short, you don't know what your talking about and you tell me I'm "churchy?" No, I'm "Biblically."
In Him,
bluto
You said, "since NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD- even tho you deny that- despite Moses, John and Jesus saying that." Ok buster, reconcile no man has seen god with Genesis 16:13 where Hagar says the following? "Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, "Thou art a God who sees; for she said, HAVE I EVEN REMAINED ALIVE HERE AFTER SEEING HIM."
Is it not interesting question what Hagar says and then 3 verses later staring at Genesis 17:1,2 the Lord appeares to Abraham and says to him, "I am God Almighty." In short, you don't know what your talking about and you tell me I'm "churchy?" No, I'm "Biblically."
In Him,
bluto
As with the burning bush, the cloud pillar, etc, God manifested Himself.
Not 'Themselves".
He never became lower than His creation, lower than angels.
His son did- but not to Abraham, nor Hagar.
I can understand that.
But perhaps you might want to insert a fake year as to when you got saved along with the fake birthday.
It just makes it hard to take someone seriously when they're blatantly falsifying dates that don't add up. It makes the readers ask, "What else is he lying about? And how can he then claim to both know and teach 'the truth'?"
If you're going to make things up about yourself (though I do understand your reasons), you might want to set up your information as something that at least APPEARS to match.
After all, there's no sense in going just halfway when making something up. Don't feel bad though, people do it all the time.
Oh, and welcome to CC.
But perhaps you might want to insert a fake year as to when you got saved along with the fake birthday.
It just makes it hard to take someone seriously when they're blatantly falsifying dates that don't add up. It makes the readers ask, "What else is he lying about? And how can he then claim to both know and teach 'the truth'?"
If you're going to make things up about yourself (though I do understand your reasons), you might want to set up your information as something that at least APPEARS to match.
After all, there's no sense in going just halfway when making something up.
Don't feel bad though, people do it all the time. Oh, and welcome to CC.
The date I became a Christian is one I will NEVER hide- but admit I typed all the info in a hurry; doing too many things at one time....
AGAPE, SoulSearch!
Ok valiant I will answer your question with a question because this is really important to understand. It says starting at Genesis 16:7, "Now the angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness by the spring on the way to Shur. This is Hagar. Vs8, "And he said, Hagar, Sara's maid where are you going? And she said I am fleeing from the presnece of my mistress Sarah.
Vs9, The the angel of the Lord said to her, return to your mistress and submit yourself to her authority. Vs10, Moreover the angel of the Lord said to her, "I WILL GREATLY MULTIPLY YOUR DESCENDANTS SO THAT THEY SHALL BE TOO MANY TO COUNT." You can read verses 11 and 12 yourself. Skipping to vs13, "Then she/Hagar called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, Thou art a God who sees," for she said, have I even remained alive here after seeing Him."
So here's my question valiant? Is the angel of the Lord that will multiply Hagar's descendants the same being at Genesis 17:1,2 that claimed to be God Almighty who will multiply Abraham's descendants at Genesis 17:2?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Vs9, The the angel of the Lord said to her, return to your mistress and submit yourself to her authority. Vs10, Moreover the angel of the Lord said to her, "I WILL GREATLY MULTIPLY YOUR DESCENDANTS SO THAT THEY SHALL BE TOO MANY TO COUNT." You can read verses 11 and 12 yourself. Skipping to vs13, "Then she/Hagar called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, Thou art a God who sees," for she said, have I even remained alive here after seeing Him."
So here's my question valiant? Is the angel of the Lord that will multiply Hagar's descendants the same being at Genesis 17:1,2 that claimed to be God Almighty who will multiply Abraham's descendants at Genesis 17:2?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
I can understand that.
But perhaps you might want to insert a fake year as to when you got saved along with the fake birthday.
It just makes it hard to take someone seriously when they're blatantly falsifying dates that don't add up. It makes the readers ask, "What else is he lying about? And how can he then claim to both know and teach 'the truth'?"
If you're going to make things up about yourself (though I do understand your reasons), you might want to set up your information as something that at least APPEARS to match.
After all, there's no sense in going just halfway when making something up. Don't feel bad though, people do it all the time.
Oh, and welcome to CC.
But perhaps you might want to insert a fake year as to when you got saved along with the fake birthday.
It just makes it hard to take someone seriously when they're blatantly falsifying dates that don't add up. It makes the readers ask, "What else is he lying about? And how can he then claim to both know and teach 'the truth'?"
If you're going to make things up about yourself (though I do understand your reasons), you might want to set up your information as something that at least APPEARS to match.
After all, there's no sense in going just halfway when making something up.
Don't feel bad though, people do it all the time. Oh, and welcome to CC.
for example, he said ((paraphrase)) 'most forums ban everyone who speaks the truth' -- which by implication is calling everyone here who isn't banned or on their way towards a ban, liars.
just my own sense of tact, but if i were to make myself out to be the 'one' guy who knows the 'actual truth' on a mission to 'teach' everyone else all about it, i think i would want to to avoid giving the impression that i can't be trusted.
but maybe if you consider yourself greater than everyone, you don't care about things like that
Yes...
I don't mean to nitpick, but personally, I don't believe in "The Wizard of Oz" teachers or preachers. If someone is hiding behind a big, dusty curtain (and the internet seems to be the biggest curtain of all these days) I can't bring myself to really take their "truths" very seriously.
This might just be me, but I personally believe that God holds us accountable, most especially if we believe we are called to "teach" or "preach", and that means having some degree of honesty and transparency.
Now of course, I'm not saying one should post their phone number, address, and social security number on the internet, but if a person isn't even up front about their age... I always wonder...
How can someone who's not telling the truth then turn around and claim to be able to teach everyone else the truth?
But... maybe that's just me.
And yes, I believe there are plenty of people who are able to tell their lies "all the way" (such as posting an age and a date they were saved that actually makes sense), but, that's between them and God.
I don't mean to nitpick, but personally, I don't believe in "The Wizard of Oz" teachers or preachers. If someone is hiding behind a big, dusty curtain (and the internet seems to be the biggest curtain of all these days) I can't bring myself to really take their "truths" very seriously.
This might just be me, but I personally believe that God holds us accountable, most especially if we believe we are called to "teach" or "preach", and that means having some degree of honesty and transparency.
Now of course, I'm not saying one should post their phone number, address, and social security number on the internet, but if a person isn't even up front about their age... I always wonder...
How can someone who's not telling the truth then turn around and claim to be able to teach everyone else the truth?
But... maybe that's just me.
And yes, I believe there are plenty of people who are able to tell their lies "all the way" (such as posting an age and a date they were saved that actually makes sense), but, that's between them and God.
i rather think this is a fault in your personal comprehension of what's going on in this passage, rather than any kind of evidence that God is not omnipresent, or that anything exists that He does not see & hear.
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?"
declares the LORD
"Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?"
declares the LORD.
(Jeremiah 23:24)
The eyes of the LORD are in every place,
Watching the evil and the good.
(Proverbs 15:3)
just a couple of the many passages we could bring up that refute your statement. these being now shown to you ((assuming they are new to your eyes?)) you have really only two choices: reconsider your evaluation of God's qualities & characteristics, or start off in an attempt to selectively edit and/or change the scripture so that it fits your private interpretation.
if one can justifiably do the latter, scripture becomes worthless, and every man may as well imagine his own 'god' in whatever likeness suits his own vain soul.
to avoid such mistakes, my advice ((would you accept it?)) would be to begin from the standpoint of God's omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence and omnibenevolence - axiomatically - and then when you read scripture and come away with any impression of it that violates these qualities, assume on first principle that you are wrong: then, re-evaluate your understanding until it is brought in line with the proper fear of the Almighty.
it's no different than doing math. if you work through a few pages of calculation and come to the conclusion that 4 = 3, assume you've done something wrong, not that you've 'broken mathematics' and discovered some hidden secret property that destroys the number system.
moving forward, look back to find your error.
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geometry is really foundational too.
it not only teaches abstract thinking and an analytical approach to problem-solving and comprehension, but it teaches logic, and how to build and defend arguments, identifying axioms and from them, building up a body of unassailable knowledge in the form of theorems & corollaries that flow from a core of truth.
it may be the only place in a lot of people's education where they ever are introduced to "proof" in any subject.
do they still teach Euclid's Elements ??
it's great; you start with nothing but a handful of things you are can be certain are true, and with no other tools at your disposal but three sticks and a bit of string that you can tie two of them together with to copy an angle, you can, in the dust, construct all Cartesian geometry from first principles.
it not only teaches abstract thinking and an analytical approach to problem-solving and comprehension, but it teaches logic, and how to build and defend arguments, identifying axioms and from them, building up a body of unassailable knowledge in the form of theorems & corollaries that flow from a core of truth.
it may be the only place in a lot of people's education where they ever are introduced to "proof" in any subject.
do they still teach Euclid's Elements ??
it's great; you start with nothing but a handful of things you are can be certain are true, and with no other tools at your disposal but three sticks and a bit of string that you can tie two of them together with to copy an angle, you can, in the dust, construct all Cartesian geometry from first principles.
I don't know what the "witnesses" are witnessing to, the apostles witnessed to Jesus:
Acts 1:8 but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”
A witness usually has some evidence to witness to - what have the JW's witnessed?
Acts 1:8 but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”
A witness usually has some evidence to witness to - what have the JW's witnessed?
