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[posthuman]

I know- death means the Musical Chair Game of the 'Immortal Soul'.
Used to be fooled by that; the spirit set me free.

LOL you think annihilation is "freedom" ?

you believe that you completely lack existence, right?
that there was a time you did not exist, and that you will utterly cease to exist when the dust that makes up your fleshly body returns to dust, right?

your position is that your own so-called 'existence' is nothing more than a temporary illusion, right? that your whole instantiation is literally a deception that appears in the wind and then disappears, and never really was at all? i.e. you do not exist​ ?

some "freedom" you got there. it don't jive.

He is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
You are badly mistaken!
(Mark 12:27)


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even the most atheistic physicist today knows better. information is neither lost nor destroyed. a shame the godless world has to teach you this while you pretend to be the teacher of others!!

 

[posthuman]

I know- death means the Musical Chair Game of the 'Immortal Soul'.
Used to be fooled by that; the spirit set me free.

you might want to try that whole "focus on scripture" thing you like to mention, in conjunction with that "confirmation bias is a tragedy" idea you confessed.

I tell you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear the One who, after you have been killed, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear Him!
(Luke 12:4-5)


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[tooldtocare]

It is no coincidence Jews been murdered slaughtered and hated where ever they have tried to set up life..The goal of evil one is to destroy the seed..

Your mumbling the old cry wolf mumbo jumbo as if Jews were the only ones targeted in this way------

In the 16th century, the expansion of European empires led to the conquering of the Americas, Africa, Australasia and Asia. This period of expansion resulted in several instances of massacres, and genocide. Many indigenous peoples, such as the Yuki, the Pallawah and Herero, were brought to the brink of extinction. In some cases, entire tribes were annihilated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples

In fact, the only place “Jews” were targeted was by the Germans in WW2. And some believe Hitler was Jewish and he was acting in revenge on his own people.

And since Jews lived all over the planet; even this does not climb to the term genocide.

in my view

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[MarcR]

I never made that claim. I am asking you for citation of verses that use the word "Trinity" or the verses that explicitly teach 3 individuals making up one God.

You are quite right. The word Trinity is not found in Scripture.

John 1:1-14 Clearly identifies both the Father and Jesus as members of the Godhead.

John chapters 13-16 clearly identifies the Holy Spirit as a person of the Godhead, NOT A FORCE, as does Ro 8:26-27.

Forces do not have mind, nor do they communicate much less intercede.

 

[Endoscopy]

i'd like to see the statistical data & the study parameters that support that statement.

i don't believe that you yourself being banned from many places would be a good indicator of that - it'd be a sample of size 1 no matter how many forums you went to, so not good for inference to begin with, and if that's your basis there'd also be a whomping big lot of bias integrated into your procedure.

can you do the math?

((ok lol probably there is no firm evidence behind that statement; you made it flippantly. just thought i'd ask in case))

but we don't need to use math to understand one thing:
if any person is constantly being disagreed with, rebuked, corrected & eventually barred from further participation in discussion, especially when those conversations are taking place among a cultured & learned group of people who *should* understand the truth, that is not evidence that the person who is constantly being corrected is correct -- it's actually an indicator that they are not.

The issue is whose truth. On this site it should be what the Bible says in context. Single verses can easily be misconstrued. Therefore context is extremely important!!

 

[tooldtocare]

During biblical times a "Jew" ruled over Egypt which at the time included Palestine

Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, andsaid, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and theirherds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold,they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, Whatis your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds,both we, and also our fathers.

(Gen 47:4 KJV) They said moreover unto Pharaoh, For tosojourn in the land are we come; for thy servants have no pasture for their flocks; for the famine is sore in the land of Canaan: now therefore, we praythee, let thy servants dwell in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying,Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:

(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshenlet them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL]and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

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[Endoscopy]

LOL you think annihilation is "freedom" ?

you believe that you completely lack existence, right?
that there was a time you did not exist, and that you will utterly cease to exist when the dust that makes up your fleshly body returns to dust, right?

your position is that your own so-called 'existence' is nothing more than a temporary illusion, right? that your whole instantiation is literally a deception that appears in the wind and then disappears, and never really was at all? i.e. you do not exist​ ?

some "freedom" you got there. it don't jive.

He is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
You are badly mistaken!
(Mark 12:27)


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even the most atheistic physicist today knows better. information is neither lost nor destroyed. a shame the godless world has to teach you this while you pretend to be the teacher of others!!

Are you saying that you are an atheist?? If so why are you on this site. Did you know that big bang evolution defies several scientific laws to happen? So much for atheists teaching us anything!! What happens to the DNA of a creature that dies and slowly the flesh rots or is eaten by animals? Is that animals DNA still around. Especially those without a skeleton!

 

[theQuestiion]

YHWH is in masoretic text.

Lord is in Greek text.

Jehovah is nowhere, its a mistransliteration originated in the KJV.

If you want to at least sound credible, use better translations.

Not at all, the names change form language to language.

 

[theQuestiion]

Was this God Himself speaking? Notice the Third Person wording:


Ex 19:24- And Jehovah said unto him, Go, get thee down; and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto Jehovah, lest he break forth upon them.- ASV


[This indicates it was someone acting as the Word (Spokesman) of God...
Now, by this time, all of you have seen how the Trinitarians try to put a spin to John’s words that were INSPIRED BY GOD HIMSELF, when he wrote “No man has seen God at ANY time!”
A curious account verifying this is found at-


Ex 33:20- And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for Man shall not see me, and live.


[Stop- and digest this. Jesus later verified this. AND Churchianity teaches Jesus is STILL a man!]


21-And Jehovah said, Behold,[there is] a place by me: there shalt thou stand on the rock.
22-And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.
23-And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see me from behind; but my face shall not be seen.


My guess is that “from behind” illustrated that He Himself wasn't to be seen. Remember the flowing garments and hood they wore in those days; without seeing one's FACE, you often had no IDEA who they were- except for their VOICE!


Yet one thing IS clear- he never saw God literally....

 

[garee]

Spirit in Greek is πνεύμα - pnévma (pneuma)
Spirit in Latin is spiritus.

Both in Greek and Latin, the spirit is breath, wind, blowing, puff, blast

Ghost in Greek is φάντασμα - fántasma
Ghost in Latin is phasma

πλάσμα translated into Latin is plasma, which translates into English as creature.
Phasma is a creature of light.

Thanks I was just showing the other poster it was six of one and a half a dozen of another. He was trying to divide God from God for some mysterious advantage. God who is not a man as us.He uses human terms to represent his one work of faith (one faith) as if two were working together in perfect harmony and submissiveness . God is one Spirit, not two Spirits or three . He cannot be divided.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

 

[theQuestiion]

Thanks I was just showing the other poster it was six of one and a half a dozen of another. He was trying to divide God from God for some mysterious advantage. God who is not a man as us.He uses human terms to represent his one work of faith (one faith) as if two were working together in perfect harmony and submissiveness . God is one Spirit, not two Spirits or three . He cannot be divided.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

So Jesus is the Father?
What about his disciples whop were ALSO one with the Father?
They God, too?

That post shows "spirit" does NOT mean "ghost" in Greek~

[FONT=&quot]Spirit in Greek is πνεύμα - [/FONT]pnévma (pneuma)[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Spirit in Latin is spiritus.

Both in Greek and Latin, the spirit is [/FONT]breath, wind, blowing, puff, blast[FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ghost in Greek is φάντασμα - fántasma[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ghost in Latin is phasma [/FONT]

 

[theQuestiion]

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Deut 6:4- Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.-ASV


Self explanatory!
Neither THREE, nor Three-in-One, nor anything implying otherwise!

 

[valiant]

Not at all, the names change form language to language.

which shows that you do not know Hebrew.

 

[garee]

Was this God Himself speaking? Notice the Third Person wording:


Ex 19:24- And Jehovah said unto him, Go, get thee down; and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto Jehovah, lest he break forth upon them.- ASV


[This indicates it was someone acting as the Word (Spokesman) of God...
Now, by this time, all of you have seen how the Trinitarians try to put a spin to John’s words that were INSPIRED BY GOD HIMSELF, when he wrote “No man has seen God at ANY time!”
A curious account verifying this is found at-


Ex 33:20- And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for Man shall not see me, and live.


[Stop- and digest this. Jesus later verified this. AND Churchianity teaches Jesus is STILL a man!]


21-And Jehovah said, Behold,[there is] a place by me: there shalt thou stand on the rock.
22-And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.
23-And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see me from behind; but my face shall not be seen.


My guess is that “from behind” illustrated that He Himself wasn't to be seen. Remember the flowing garments and hood they wore in those days; without seeing one's FACE, you often had no IDEA who they were- except for their VOICE!


Yet one thing IS clear- he never saw God literally....

Supernatural (without beginning) God remains without any rudiment of this world ( atom and molecule ) He can not literally be seen. And has no desire for men to make him after the image of any rudiment of this world . He desires as from the beginning we understand Him who has no form by which he has made. His written word ,the letter of the law. He is not made from the things we see.

His glory is our rear guard as well as the one that leads through the widerness.

 

[valiant]

NEXT on the List~



Deut 6:4- Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.-ASV


Self explanatory!
Neither THREE, nor Three-in-One, nor anything implying otherwise!

funny thing is that elohim (God) in Hebrew means at least three.

 

[valiant]

So Jesus is the Father?
What about his disciples whop were ALSO one with the Father?
They God, too?

That post shows "spirit" does NOT mean "ghost" in Greek~

Spirit in Greek is πνεύμα - pnévma (pneuma)
Spirit in Latin is spiritus.

Both in Greek and Latin, the spirit is breath, wind, blowing, puff, blast

Ghost in Greek is φάντασμα - fántasma
Ghost in Latin is phasma

which shows that you do not know either Greek or Latin,

 

[theQuestiion]

which shows that you do not know Hebrew.

May you walk in the footsteps of Schlomo....

 

[theQuestiion]

funny thing is that elohim (God) in Hebrew means at least three.

That IS funny!
Shows YOU don't know Hebrew...

 

[theQuestiion]

Supernatural (without beginning) God remains without any rudiment of this world ( atom and molecule ) He can not literally be seen. And has no desire for men to make him after the image of any rudiment of this world . He desires as from the beginning we understand Him who has no form by which he has made. His written word ,the letter of the law. He is not made from the things we see.

His glory is our rear guard as well as the one that leads through the widerness.

Agreed.
His son WAS seen, so I hope you can connect the dots...

 

[Desertsrose]

Interview with the late Dr. Walter Martin by John Ankerberg.

When you’re talking to a Jehovah’s Witness, or for that matter a cultist, about the Trinity, the simplest thing to do is to say, “Look, the nature of God is beyond our understanding.

Everybody knows that.” I’ve said it many times. It’s true. “If you could understand how God was God, you’d be God.” He doesn’t ask us to do that. He simply says, “This is my Word and in there I have revealed myself.”

So in the Word of God you have the Father declared to be God, in 2 Peter 1:17, God the Father.

You have the Son declared to be God in John 1:1.

You have the Holy Spirit declared to be God, Acts 5:3-4.

Then the Bible says, “And these three persons are the One God.” Why? Because there’s only one God. [Deut. 6:4; Mark 12:29]

So you don’t have to be a great logician to figure out that if the Father is called God, the Son is called God, the Spirit is called God, and there’s only one God, then the Father, the Son and the Spirit are the One God whether you understand it or not.

That’s where they break down. They will not take the leap of faith that if God says it, that’s sufficient.