Sabbath

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 1:

2 "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 "You shall have no other gods before Me. (Exodus 20:2-3)

The Book of Job states:

21 Blessed be the name of the LORD (Job 1:21).

28 This also would be an iniquity deserving of judgement,
For I would have denied God who is above (Job 31:28).

1 The Job answered the LORD and said: 'I know that You can do everything,
and that no purpose of Yours can be withheld from You' (Job 42:1-2).

28 And to man He said, 'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom,
and to depart from evil is understanding' (Job 28:28).

What is interesting about Job 28:28 is that Job said that this is what God said to man
and there is no record of this being said in Genesis (which is the primary biblical book
with information prior to the story of Job), thus this verse proves that God spoke to
humankind prior to Moses in at least one way that was not recorded in Genesis.

Thus this refutes the argument that none prior to Mount Sinai could have known what
the commandments were! If there were no commandments in effect, how could denying
God be an iniquity deserving of judgement?

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 2:

4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image -- any likeness of anything that is
in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;

5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous
God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations
of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep
My commandments. (Exodus 20:4-6)

The Book of Job states:

27 If I have observed the sun when it shines, or the moon moving in its brightness,
so that my heart has been secretly enticed, and my mouth has kissed my hand;

28 This also would be an iniquity deserving of judgement,
For I would have denied God who is above (Job 31:27-28).

Observing of the sun and moon, whereby one is enticed, as well kissing one's own hand,
are believed by most commentators to have been practices associated with idolatry.
an iniquity deserving of judgement

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 3:

7 "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord
will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. (Exodus 20:7)

The Book of Job states:

5 It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts (Job 1:5).

21 Blessed be the name of the LORD (Job 1:21).

9 Curse God and die! (Job 2:9).

10 In all this, Job did not sin with his lips (Job 2:10).

The third commandment is clearly shown in Job to have been understood.

It is clear that before Mount Sinai one could 'sin with his lips,' and that 'sin' was
known to exist then (after Mount Sinai, God did tell the Israelites that the people
who used to live in the land sinned by violating this command, Leviticus 18:21,27).

21And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech,
neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.

26Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit
any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that
sojourneth among you: 27(For all these abominations have the men of the land done,
which were before you, and the land is defiled) Leviticus 18:21,27

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 4:

8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all
your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall
do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your
female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six
days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and
rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
(Exodus 20:8-11)

The Book of Job states:

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13 So they sat down with him on the ground seven days and seven nights, and no
one spoke a word to him, for they saw that his grief was very great (Job 2:13).

Job 2:13 supports the concept that the week was being observed prior to Mount Sinai.
It is consistent with the two accounts in Genesis that a week was used as a period of
rejoicing (Gen 29:22,27-28) and grieving (Genesis 50:10).

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1 Is there not a time of hard service for man on the earth (Job 7:1).

Job 7:1 supports the concept of "six days shall you labor" (Exodus 20:8)
which is part of the fourth commandment.

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5 That the triumping of the wicked is short...
20 Because he knows no quietness in his heart (Job 20:5,20).

Job 20:20 supports the concept found in Hebrews 4:3-6
that those do who disobey "shall not enter My rest."
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21 Now aquaint yourself with Him, and be at peace (Job 22:21).

Where as Job 22:21 supports the related concept that "we who believed do enter
that rest...There remains therefore a rest (Greek sabbitismos, 'a sabbath observance')
for the people of God" (Hebrews 4:3,9).
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4 Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? (Job 38:4).

In Job 38:4, God says He 'laid the foundations of the earth' which is similar to the
concept in Exodus 20:11 'For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth,
the sea, and all that is in them'. Thus in Job we see the nearly all the concepts of the
fourth commandment.

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 5:

12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land
which the Lord your God is giving you. (Exodus 20:12)

The Book of Job states:

21 His sons come to honor (Job 14:21).

5 He who speaks flattery to his friends, even the eyes of his children will fail (Job 17:5).

8 But the mighty man possessed the land, and the honorable man dwelt in it (Job 22:8).

These verses support the concept that one is to be honorable, children are to honor their
father, and that the children are to become honorable, whereas the fifth commandment
says to give honor (Exodus 20:12) which implies that parents are to be honorable.

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 6:

13 "You shall not murder. (Exodus 20:13)

The Book of Job states:

14 The murderer rises with the light; He kills the poor and needy;
And in the night he's like a thief (Job 24:14).

39 If I have eaten its fruit without money, or caused its owners to lose their lives;
40 Then let thistles grow instead of wheat, and weeds instead of barley (Job 31:39-40).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions considered murder
to be wrong. Job 24:14 is similar to a teaching by Jesus tieing in murder and thievery together:

10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. (John 10:10).

Job knew of this connection thousands of years before Jesus stated it as recorded by John.

Studyman · Nov 7, 2017

trofimus said:

God didn't create the world for Israel. And these examples were written for our admonition, not so we can reject them and create our own gospel, but that we may learn who we are by them. The Sabbath is a sign between us and God that we are His people, and not of this world. It isn't the only sign, but it is a clear and easy one for even children to understand. There is no way to read the Bible and not know the importance of following His instruction.

Man has been trying to create their own Path to heaven since the tower of Babel. And they will continue until He comes back. Most will not accept this truth just as most will not accept God's creation including His Sabbath.

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 8:

15 "You shall not steal. (Exodus 20:15)

The Book of Job states:

5 Is not your wickedness great, and your iniquity without end? 6 For you have taken pledges
from your brother for no reason, and stripped the naked of their clothing (Job 22:5-6).

14 And in the night he's like a thief (Job 24:14).

39 If I have eaten its fruit without money, or caused its owners to lose their lives;
40 Then let thistles grow instead of wheat, and weeds instead of barley (Job 31:39-40).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions
considered stealing to be wrong.

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 9:
16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. (Exodus 20:16)

The Book of Job states:

28 I would never lie to your face (Job 6:28).

15:35 They conceive trouble and bring forth futility; Their womb prepares deceit.

24:25 Now if it is not so, who will prove me a liar and make my speech worth nothing?

27:4 My lips will not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit (Job 27:4).

34:6 Should I lie concerning my right? (Job 34:6).

36:4 For truly my words are not false (Job 36:4).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions
considered 'bearing false witness' to be wrong.

Commandment 10:

17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife,
nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything
that is your neighbor's." (Exodus 20:17)

The Book of Job states:

2 And envy slays a simple one (Job 5:2).

12 Why does your heart carry you away, and what do your eyes wink at, that you turn
your spirit against God, and let such words go out of your mouth? (Job 15:12-13).

15:1 They conceive trouble and bring forth futility (Job 15:35).

31:1 I have made a covenant with my eyes; Why then should I look upon a young woman?

9 "If my heart has been enticed by a woman, Or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door,
10 Then let my wife grind for another, And let others bow down over her. 11 For that
would be wickedness; Yes, it would be iniquity deserving of judgment. 12 For that would
be a fire that consumes to destruction, And would root out all my increase. (Job 31:9-12).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions considered
covetousness (or evil desire) to be wrong. Since Paul wrote, "I would not have known
sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law
had said, 'You shall not covet.' " (Rom 7:7), it is clear that the law against covetousness
must have been in effect prior to Mount Sinai.

prove-all · Nov 7, 2017

Commandment 7:

14 "You shall not commit adultery. (Exodus 20:14)

The Book of Job states:

15 The eye of the adulterer waits for the twilight, saying, 'No eye will see me';
and he disguises his face (Job 24:15).

1 I have made a covenant with my eyes; Why then should I look upon a young woman?
(Job 31:1).

9 "If my heart has been enticed by a woman, Or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door,
10 Then let my wife grind for another, And let others bow down over her. 11 For that would
be wickedness; Yes, it would be iniquity deserving of judgment. 12 For that would be a fire
that consumes to destruction, And would root out all my increase. (Job 31:9-12).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions knew adultery
was prohibited and an 'iniquity deserving of judgement.'

Hizikyah · Nov 7, 2017

prove-all said:

He knows the end from the neginning and is the same today, yesterday and forever!

John 17:17, “Set them apart in Your truth – Your Word is truth.”

Psalm 119:142, “Your righteousness is righteousness forever, And Your Torah is truth.”

1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”

Endoscopy · Nov 7, 2017

Studyman said:

It is obvious that He did. Otherwise no sacrifices. Transgression of the law is sin so they had some understanding of the law. Just not recorded how they knew.

Studyman · Nov 7, 2017

Endoscopy said:

I find it fascinating that people actually preach that God didn’t give His creation instruction for hundreds of years. He judged them, He punished them, but He didn’t give them laws. Or that He gave Abraham different laws than He gave Abraham’s children. Imagine what it would do to the doctrines of the “many” religious franchises if they were to admit just this one Biblical reality?

No, the cost is too high for them to admit that other than the Levitical Priesthood ceremonial “works of the law” for remission of sins, Abraham and Abel obeyed the same Commandments as Moses and Jesus. To accept this is to admit their entire religion is based on traditions and doctrines of men. Good for you Endo

prove-all · Nov 8, 2017

valiant said:

Jeremiah 10:23 (KJV)
O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself:
it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Notice which day Paul and Barnabas used for preaching to Gentiles:

1) Acts 13:14-15, 42-44: “But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. And after the reading of the law
and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren,

if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.”
Then Paul stood up, and spoke, preaching Christ to them.

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, [the Gentiles besought]
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”

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Now since Paul was preaching “the grace of God” (verse 43),
here was his opportunity to straighten out these Gentiles,
and explain that the Sabbath was done away.

Why should he wait a whole week, in order to preach to the Gentiles
on the next Sabbath? If the day had now been changed to Sunday,

why did not Paul tell them they would not have to wait a week, but
the very next day, Sunday, was the proper day for this service?

But notice what Paul did.

“And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.”

Here Paul waited a whole week, passing up a Sunday, in order to preach
to the Gentiles that besought teaching Gods words, on the Sabbath day.

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Ecclesiastes 12:13 (KJV)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God,
and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

JaumeJ · Nov 9, 2017

1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as idolatry and teraphim. Because thou hast rejected the word of Jehovah, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Witchcraft and conceptual idolatry seem to flow....

beta · Nov 9, 2017

prove-all said:

Jeremiah 10:23 (KJV)
O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself:
it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Notice which day Paul and Barnabas used for preaching to Gentiles:

1) Acts 13:14-15, 42-44: “But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. And after the reading of the law
and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren,

if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.”
Then Paul stood up, and spoke, preaching Christ to them.

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, [the Gentiles besought]
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”

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Now since Paul was preaching “the grace of God” (verse 43),
here was his opportunity to straighten out these Gentiles,
and explain that the Sabbath was done away.

Why should he wait a whole week, in order to preach to the Gentiles
on the next Sabbath? If the day had now been changed to Sunday,

why did not Paul tell them they would not have to wait a week, but
the very next day, Sunday, was the proper day for this service?

But notice what Paul did.

“And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.”

Here Paul waited a whole week, passing up a Sunday, in order to preach
to the Gentiles that besought teaching Gods words, on the Sabbath day.

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Ecclesiastes 12:13 (KJV)
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God,
and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

LOVE ALL your posts on the Commandments !!!

loveme1 · Nov 17, 2017

May all Remembering have a Restful Sabbath in Christ.

All praise and Glory to Heavenly Father and our Lord and Saviour always and forever.

LoveGodForever · Nov 17, 2017

loveme1 said:

Hi LM1 and all loved ones in the Lord who loves all. I was just about to write something here but LM1 beat me to it. As I am from the future times wise. I am at rest in His Love and presence. Letting you know that His Love is why we are here. What can we do without him and who are we that he should save us out of this world? We love him because he first loved us. Not we are all free in love to love as he first loved us. May God bless you all this happy Sabbath! Praise him who loves us and gave his life for us so that we can walk with him in love. May His name be praised in His saints who love him and keep His commandments through faith by love forever and ever AMEN.....

God bless you all

LoveGodForever · Nov 17, 2017

Just parking this here in case it may be helpful to some......

God's Law (Exodus 20:1-17) in the New Testament

1 You shall have no other gods before Me.
It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve. (Luke 4:8; Matthew 4:10; Revelation 14:7)

2 You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.
God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24; Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 6:9; Ephesians 5:5; 1 Peter 4:3; 1 John 5:21; Revelation 2:14)

3 You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.
(1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7)

4 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. (Mark 2:27-28, Hebrews 4; Matthew 12:8; Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56(Mark 2:28; Matthew 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22; Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelations 1:10 Is binding on all mankind today COL 2:14-17 THE REAL TRUTH THREAD (Linked)

5 Honour your father and mother.
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. (Ephesians 6:1; Colossians 3:20; Matthew 15:4; Matthew 19:19)

6 You shall not murder.
I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. (Matthew 5:44-45; Matt. 5:21-26; Romans 13:9; 1 Timothy 1:9; 1 John 3:15; James 2:11; Matthew 19:18)

7 You shall not commit adultery.
I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. (Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4, James 2:11, Matthew 19:19, Romans 13:9)

8 You shall not steal.
Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28, Romans 13:9, Matthew 19:18)

9 You shall not bear false witness.
For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. (Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Col. 3:9; Matthew 19:18, Romans 13:9)

10 You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.
Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses. (Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5, Romans 13:9)

May God bless you all as you seek him through His Word.................

GandalfTheWhite · Nov 17, 2017

The Bible teach is that God is love and God gave us His instructions because He love us. Jesus also said if you love me keep my commandments.

Now God love His children even more than we love our children and in saying that we have to understand that if God ask us to do (or not to do) something He will have a good reason for it and I need to trust Him.

If my son plays outside on the lawn and I tell him not to eat the mushrooms growing in the garden is it because I am trying to keep something good from him or do I actually care for him? Maybe I am trying to protect my child against the poison and taking him to hospital for the doctors to pump his stomach.

Why don't we trust God when He ask us to do or not to do certain things...

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