What is “the day of the Lord" / “the Day of YHWH"

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What is “the day of the Lord" / “the Day of YHWH"

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Hizikyah

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The study i have done tells me it all happened in accordance with the Passover. Nisan 14,15,16. type and anti-type perfectly matched.
Nisan 14 at 3pm the time the Lamb was to be killed was the time Jesus died Friday at 3pm.
Nisan 15 was a high Sabbath because both the weekly and the ceremonial Sabbath came at the same time. Jesus rested in the tomb.
Nisan 16 was the day of first fruits, (which can happen any day depending on when Nisan 16 falls),. Jesus rose sometime between the end of the Sabbath and Sunday morning.

· Passover - 14 Nisan, is the type of the crucifixion day and occurs before a seventh day Sabbath.
· The day following the crucifixion is not only a seventh day Sabbath, but also the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, 15 Nisan, making that Sabbath a "high" double Sabbath.
· 16 Nisan, the day of Firstfruits, a clear type of the resurrection day, occurs after a sabbath day, but is not itself a Sabbath day!
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[TD]14 Nisan
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[TD]14:17 - 15:47[/TD]
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CONCLUSION
The only chronology that can be reconciled with scripture on all points is the Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection. It is the only scenario in which the typical festival days and their fulfillment match exactly, without a single discrepancy!
First fruits is not about resurrection, but presenting to YHWH;

Leviticus 23:10-11, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it."

By every account
He had already Risen before Sunday (1[SUP]st[/SUP] day) morning)

Matthew 28:1-6 “Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb.2And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it.3His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow.4And for fear of him the guards trembled and became like dead men.5But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified.6He is not here, for he has risen, as he said. Come, see the place where he lay.”

I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified.6He is not here, for he has risen

Mark 16:1-6 “When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him.2And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb.3And they were saying to one another, “Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance of the tomb?”4And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back—it was very large.5And entering the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed in a white robe, and they were alarmed. 6And he said to them, “Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has risen; he is not here. See the place where they laid him.

You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has risen; he is not here

Luke 24:1-3 “But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices they had prepared.2And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb,3but when they went in they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. “

they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus

John 20:1 “Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.”

while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb

This is three days and three nights exactly. This is the timeline of Yahshua’s sacrifice and resurrection. It is very simple to understand but our minds have been bombarded with so many lies the truth seems to have been lost from most believers. If you are reading this it may be that you are one that is to be pulled out of mystery Babylon by YHWH. Also if this information is new to you, I have to respectfully say you need to do much study as if you were misled on something this basic what else have you been misled about. I also want to firmly say anyone (pastor, preacher, etc.) who teaches Good Friday to Easter Sunday is not teaching YHWH’s truth, but is teaching lies, and we know who lies come from.

Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

John 13:1, “And before the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.”

Leviticus 23:5, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed.”

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, “Therefore, purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new batch, since you are unleavened. For truly Yahshua our Passover was sacrificed for us. Therefore, let us keep the Feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.”

John 20:17, "יהושע said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”

Why is it when Mary/Miryam tries to touch Yahshua He says: “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father”

John 20:18, "Miryam from Maḡdala came announcing to the taught ones that she had seen the Master, and that He had told her this."

Then Miryam leaves Yahshua and goes and tells the disciples what happened, leaving Yahshua alone.

John 20:24-27, "But T’oma (Thomas), called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when יהושע came, so the other disciples said to him, “We have seen the Master.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the mark of the nails, and put my finger into the imprint of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I shall by no means believe. And after eight days His taught ones were again inside, and T’oma with them. יהושע came, the doors having been shut, and He stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you! Then He said to T’oma, “Bring your finger here, and see My hands. And bring your hand and put it into My side – and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

Here, eight days later, He tells T’oma to touch Him, but when Miryam tried to touch Him He did not allow her. Why could Miriam not touch Him but Thomas could? What happened between this time period of these 2 incidents?

The reason for this is understood in something called the Fest of Firstfruits. It is one of the Moadim or Feast Days of YHWH. In which the entire woks of Messiah from His Sacrifice and Resurrection to His return as the conquering Lion and Rulership over all is laid out in perfect prophetic shadow pictures.

1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming,”

first-fruits” is word #G536 - ἀπαρχή aparche: the beginning of a sacrifice, i.e. the first fruit, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine - Transliteration: aparché - Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ar-khay') - Short Definition: the first-fruits, Definition: the first-fruits, the earliest crop of the year, hence also met., for example, of the earliest converts in a district; there is evidence in favor of rendering in some passages merely by: sacrifice, gift.

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) to offer firstlings or firstfruits, 2) to take away the firstfruits of the productions of the earth which was offered to God. The first portion of the dough, from which sacred loaves were to be prepared. Hence term used of persons consecrated to God for all time, 3) persons superior in excellence to others of the same class

Leviticus 23:10-11, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it."

In the Fest of First-Fruits the Priest “On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it

That is why when the women came to the tomb;

John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”

Yahshua did not let Himself be touched;

John 20:17, "יהושע said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”

He had not yet ascended to YHWH to present Himself as the First-Fruits to YHWH;

Leviticus 23:10-11, “...the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance...

Ephesians 4:9-10, “But what does “He went up” mean, except that He also first went down into the lower parts of the earth? He who went down is also the One who went up far above all the heavens, to fill all.”

John 3:10-13, "יהושע answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Yisra’yl, and do not know this? Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what We know and witness what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. If you do not believe when I spoke to you about earthly matters, how are you going to believe when I speak to you about the heavenly matters? And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Aḏam.”

Colossians 1:15, "He is the image of the invisible Father, the firstborn of all creation."

Colossians 1:18, "For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence."

Revelation 1:5, "And from Yahshua Messiah, the faithful witness, and the firstborn from the dead, and the Ruler of future kings of the earth. To Him Who loved us and freed us from our sins by His own blood."

Leviticus 23:17, “Bring from your dwellings for a wave offering two loaves of bread, of two-tenths of an ĕphah of fine flour they are, baked with leaven, first-fruits to יהוה.”

first-fruits” is word #H1061 בִּכּוּר bikkuwr (bik-koor') n-m., the first-fruits of the crop., [from H1069], KJV: first fruit (-ripe (figuratively)), hasty fruit., Root(s): H1069

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Check this thread out, I compiled Scriptual evidence shown the timeline of the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua;

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...-messiah-put-grave-when-did-he-resurrect.html
the logic doesn't work out
Nisan 16 is not a Sabbath day so the Women would have gone to the tomb on Friday not Sunday.

Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

Mat 27:62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
(either Thursday or Saturday) depending on the theory.
Mat 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
Mat 27:64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Mat 27:65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.
Mat 27:66 So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.


The 72 hour logic is not what is meant, on the 3rd day He rose and this is a long study and i sure you've heard the other sides explanation so save me from it . ....
 
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Hi Hizikyah,

I wish you would stop substituting Jesus; name with something that is the figment of someones imagination, it really does border on Blaspheme, this Hebrew roots stuff is just sheer nonsense!

Yahshua is not the Hebrew name for Jesus, never was and never will be. Get it right and stop re writing scripture.
yup i said the same.
its not the hebrew name for jesus. even jewish christians can tell u this. its completely made up by the hebrew roots cult.
also all the new testament original language letters are in greek saying iesous not y-shua or yahshua. hahaha yahshua is not even in the hebrew ot anywhere.

this is sheer nonsense like u said. he always adds scripture or changes it to fit his doctrines.

the day of the Lord is the day of His wrath, not sunday, period end of discussion. facts are facts
 

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CONCLUSION
The only chronology that can be reconciled with scripture on all points is the Friday
crucifixion and Sunday resurrection. It is the only scenario in which the typical
festival days and their fulfillment match exactly, without a single discrepancy!
“In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week,
came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre” (Matthew 28:1).

The King James, along with just about every other Bible version, translates
the first part of this verse, “In the end of the sabbath” or “after the sabbath.”

But if you study the Greek text, you learn that the word for sabbath is
actually plural! “After the sabbaths,” it should read.


The reason Matthew refers to sabbaths, plural, is because there were
two sabbaths that week! When Matthew says Mary came early Sunday morning,
before dawn, after one of the sabbaths, he is referring to the weekly Sabbath.

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Mark 16:1 says Mary Magdalene and her companions bought spices
“when the sabbath was past.” They were planning to prepare these
ointments and spices so that they might anoint the body of Jesus.

Yet Luke 23:56 says they prepared these spices and then rested on the
weekly Sabbath day. Compare these two texts carefully.


Christ inspired four different Gospel accounts to be written so that all the
important details of His life might be canonized. Mark said these women
bought the spices after the sabbath was past. Luke said they prepared
the spices before the Sabbath arrived.

The women bought the spices on Friday, after the annual sabbath on Thursday.
They prepared the spices that same day, before the weekly Sabbath,
and then rested on the Sabbath according to God’s command.

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Those who hold to the Good Friday-Easter belief must conclude that these
verses are a glaring contradiction. They are not! They complement each
other perfectly, if you understand that there were two sabbaths that week.
 
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Hizikyah

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the logic doesn't work out
Nisan 16 is not a Sabbath day so the Women would have gone to the tomb on Friday not Sunday.
Except the reason they did not go to the tomb earlier ewas because it was guarded:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 27:59-66, “And having taken the body, Yosĕph wrapped it in clean linen, and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock. And he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and went away. And Miryam from Maḡdala was there, and the other Miryam, sitting opposite the tomb. On the next day, which was after the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate, saying, “Master, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, ‘After three days I am raised. Command, then, that the tomb be safeguarded until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him away, and should say to the people, ‘He was raised from the dead.’ And the last deception shall be worse than the first. So Pilate said to them, “You have a watch, go, safeguard it as you know how. And they went and safeguarded the tomb, sealing the stone and setting the watch.”[/FONT]
 

Hizikyah

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Hi Hizikyah,

I wish you would stop substituting Jesus; name with something that is the figment of someones imagination, it really does border on Blaspheme, this Hebrew roots stuff is just sheer nonsense!

Yahshua is not the Hebrew name for Jesus, never was and never will be. Get it right and stop re writing scripture.
yup i said the same.
its not the hebrew name for jesus. even jewish christians can tell u this. its completely made up by the hebrew roots cult.
also all the new testament original language letters are in greek saying iesous not y-shua or yahshua. hahaha yahshua is not even in the hebrew ot anywhere.

this is sheer nonsense like u said. he always adds scripture or changes it to fit his doctrines.

the day of the Lord is the day of His wrath, not sunday, period end of discussion. facts are facts
Yes completely made it.... except;

“Jesus” is word #G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iesous (yee-sous') n/p., 1. (meaning) He is Salvation, Yahweh saves (i.e. the Savior)., 2. (person) Jesus (i.e. Yeshua, Yehoshua), the name of our Lord, also called the Last Adam., 3. (person) Joshua (i.e. Yehoshua) an Israelite, the servant and successor of Moses., 4. (person) Jeshua, also called Justus, an Israelite, a coworker with Paul., 5. (NOTE) (“Jesus” is a valid English transliteration, coming from Ancient Hebrew to Koine Greek (via the Septuagint) to Latin to Old English to Modern English. It is completely acceptable to God (Yahweh) for us call upon the Savior's name as “Jesus,” or “Iesous,” or “Yeshua,” or even “Yesu” as in Christian Arabic or in the Fijian Islands, et al. God prepared for all nations to be able to trust in the Savior and to call upon his name by preparing a language dialect for international use: the Hebraic-Koine Greek. Thus, technically and formally, the pronunciation “Iesous” was intentionally established by the Savior as the common basis for Jewish and Gentile acknowledgment of his Redemption and Salvation, going forth as needed into every tribe, native tongue, people, and nation. “Yeshua” is of course delightfully acceptable to him, when it is not used as an exclusionary name. Love edifies)., 6. (NOTE) (Revelation 3:12)., [of Hebrew origin (H3442 as the shortened form of H3091)], KJV: Jesus, Root(s): H3442, See also: H3091



Root word of Jesus” is word #G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iesous -H3442 יֵשׁוַּע Yeshuwa` (yay-shoo'-ah) n/l., 1. he will save., 2. Jeshua, the name of ten Israelites, also of a place in Israel., [for H3091], KJV: Jeshua. , Root(s): H3091



Root word of Jesus” is word #G2424 Ἰησοῦς Iesous - H3091 יְהוֹשׁוּעַ YhowShuw`a(yeh-ho-shoo'-ah) n/p., יְהוֹשֻׁעַ YhowShu`a (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah), 1. Yahweh-saved.2. Jehoshua (i.e. Joshua), the Jewish leader., [from H3068 and H3467], KJV: Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua., Root(s): H3068, H3467, Compare: H1954, H3442
 

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“Alas for the day! for the day of the Lord is at hand,
and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come” (Joel 1:15).

The word Almighty is seldom used in the Bible.
It is not a mere name. It refers to God’s towering might

This is “destruction from the Almighty.” It is no ordinary calamity!

For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which
go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,
to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joel 2:1-14, "2:1, "Blow a shophar in Tsiyon, and sound an alarm in My set-apart mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the earth tremble, for the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is coming, for it is near:"2:2, "a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness, like the morning clouds spread over the mountains – a people many and strong, the like of whom has never been, nor shall there ever be again after them, to the years of many generations."2:3, "Ahead of them a fire has consumed, and behind them a flame burns. Before them the land is like the Garden of Ěḏen, and behind them a desert waste. And from them there is no escape."2:4, "Their appearance is like the appearance of horses, and they run like steeds."2:5, "As the noise of chariots they leap over mountain tops, as the noise of a flaming fire consuming stubble, as a mighty people set in battle array."2:6, "Before them peoples are in anguish, all faces become flushed."2:7, "They run like mighty men, they climb the wall like men of battle, every one goes on his way, and they do not break ranks."2:8, "And they do not press one another, every one goes in his path. They fall among the weapons, but they do not stop."2:9, "They rush on the city, they run on the wall. They climb into the houses, they enter at the windows like a thief."2:10, "The earth shall tremble before them, the heavens shall shake. Sun and moon shall be darkened, and the stars withdraw their brightness."2:11, "And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall give forth His voice before His army, for His camp is very great, for mighty is the doer of His word. For the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is great and very awesome, and who does bear it?"2:12, "“Yet even now,” declares [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “turn to Me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning.”"2:13, "And tear your heart and not your garments, and turn back to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength, for He shows favour and is compassionate, patient, and of great loving-commitment, and He shall relent concerning the evil."2:14, "Who knows – He might turn and relent, and leave a blessing behind Him, a grain offering and a drink offering for [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength?"[/FONT]
 

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Joel 2:28-32, "2:28, "“And after this it shall be that I pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men dream dreams, your young men see visions."2:29, "“And also on the male servants and on the female servants I shall pour out My Spirit in those days."2:30, "“And I shall give signs in the heavens and upon the earth: blood and fire and columns of smoke,"2:31, "the sun is turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of יהוה."2:32, "“And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be delivered.b For on Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim there shall be an escapec as יהוה has said, and among the survivors whom יהוה calls.
 

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Joel 2:28-32, "2:28, "“And after this it shall be that I pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men dream dreams, your young men see visions."2:29, "“And also on the male servants and on the female servants I shall pour out My Spirit in those days."2:30, "“And I shall give signs in the heavens and upon the earth: blood and fire and columns of smoke,"2:31, "the sun is turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of יהוה."2:32, "“And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be delivered.b For on Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim there shall be an escapec as יהוה has said, and among the survivors whom יהוה calls.
Acts is a quote from the above passage

Acts 2:16-21, "2:16, "“But this is what was spoken by the prophet Yo’ĕl:"2:17, "‘And it shall be in the last days, says the Mighty One, that I shall pour out of My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams,"2:18, "and also on My male servants and on My female servants I shall pour out My Spirit in those days, and they shall prophesy."2:19, "‘And I shall show wonders in the heaven above and signs in the earth beneath: blood and fire and vapour of smoke."2:20, "‘The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and splendid day of יהוה."2:21, "‘And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be saved.” (Joe 2:28-32, Rom 10:13)
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joel 3:12-14, “Let the nations be aroused, and come up to the Valley of Yehoshaphat. For there I shall sit to judge all the nations on every side. Put in the sickle (Revelation 14:12-20), for the harvest has grown ripe. Come, go down, for the wine press is filled, the vats overflow, for their evil is great. Crowds, crowds in the valley of decision! For the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is near in the valley of decision.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joel 3:1-21, "3:1, "“For look, in those days and at that time, when I turn back the captivity of Yehuḏah and Yerushalayim,"3:2, "then I shall gather all nations, and bring them down to the Valley of Yehoshaphat. And I shall enter into judgment with them there for My people, My inheritance Yisra’ĕl, whom they have scattered among the nations, and they have divided up My land."3:3, "“And they have cast lots for My people, and have given a young man for a whore, and sold a girl for wine, and drank it."3:4, "“And also, what are you to Me, O Tsor and Tsiḏon, and all the coasts of Philistia? Are you repaying Me? And if you are repaying Me, I would swiftly and speedily return your reward on your own head."3:5, "“For you have taken My silver and My gold, and brought My treasures into your temples,"3:6, "and the people of Yehuḏah and the people of Yerushalayim you have sold to the sons of Yawan, to remove them far from their borders."3:7, "“See, I am stirring them up out of the place to which you have sold them, and I shall return on your own head what you have done,"3:8, "and shall sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the people of Yehuḏah, and they shall sell them to the Sheḇaites, to a nation far off. For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has spoken.”"3:9, "Proclaim this among the nations, “Prepare for battle! Wake up the mighty men, let all the men of battle draw near, let them come up."3:10, "“Beat your ploughshares into swords and your pruning-hooks into spears, let the weak say, ‘I am strong.’ ”"3:11, "Hasten and come, all you nations, and gather together all around. O [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], let Your mighty men come down here."3:12, "“Let the nations be aroused, and come up to the Valley of Yehoshaphat. For there I shall sit to judge all the nations on every side."3:13, "“Put in the sickle, for the harvest has grown ripe. Come, go down, for the winepress is filled, the vats overflow, for their evil is great.”"3:14, "Crowds, crowds in the valley of decision! For the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is near in the valley of decision."3:15, "Sun and moon shall become dark, and stars shall withdraw their brightness."3:16, "And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall roar from Tsiyon, and give forth His voice from Yerushalayim. And the heavens and earth shall shake, but [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall be a refuge for His people, and a stronghold for the children of Yisra’ĕl."3:17, "“Then you shall know that I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Elohim, dwelling in Tsiyon, My set-apart mountain.a And Yerushalayim shall be set-apart, and foreigners shall not pass through her again. Footnote: aSee Joe 3:21 and footnote at Isa 24:23."3:18, "“And it shall be in that day that the mountains drip with new wine, and the hills flow with milk. And all the streams of Yehuḏah shall be flooded with water, and a fountain flow from the House of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and water the wadi Shittim."3:19, "“Mitsrayim shall become a ruin, and Eḏom a ruin, a wilderness, because of violence done to the people of Yehuḏah, whose innocent blood they shed in their land."3:20, "“But Yehuḏah shall dwell forever, and Yerushalayim to all generations."3:21, "“And I shall avenge their blood, which I have not avenged. And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall be dwelling in Tsiyon!”"

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Matthew 25:31-46, "25:31, "“And when the Son of Aḏam comes in His esteem, and all the set-apart messengers with Him, then He shall sit on the throne of His esteem."25:32, "“And all the nations shall be gathered before Him, and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats."25:33, "“And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left."25:34, "“Then the Sovereign shall say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the reign prepared for you from the foundation of the world –"25:35, "for I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in,"25:36, "was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me, I was in prison and you came to Me.’"25:37, "“Then the righteous shall answer Him, saying, ‘Master, when did we see You hungry and we fed You, or thirsty and gave You to drink?"25:38, "And when did we see You a stranger and took You in, or naked and clothed You?"25:39, "And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and we came to You?’"25:40, "“And the Sovereign shall answer and say to them, ‘Truly, I say to you, in so far as you did it to one of the least of these My brothers, you did it to Me.’"25:41, "“He shall then also say to those on the left hand, ‘Go away from Me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his messengers –"25:42, "for I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink,"25:43, "I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, was naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’"25:44, "“Then they also shall answer Him, saying, ‘Master, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not serve You?’"25:45, "“Then He shall answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, in so far as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’"25:46, "“And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life.”"

 
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My view in a nut shell...

a. The Day of the Lord, Christ and God is one day
b. Paul and Peter tie all three days together
c. The day has all three aspect of JESUS because he is LORD, CHRIST and GOD
d. The day lasts 1000 years
e. The day commences with Christ as LORD seizing control of all earthly Kingdoms with the following two aspects to follow
f. Aspect 2 is Jesus as Christ resurrecting and changing the saints, rewarding the prophets, saints and all who fear God both young and old
g. Aspect 3 is JESUS as God pours out his wrath upon the world gathered under the beast
h. The DAY commences at the 7th and final trump of REVELATION
I. As the 7th Trump begins to sound, the gig is up and (time no more)
J. Jesus a LORD seizes all worldly kingdoms, Jesus as Christ resurrect the dead in Christ, changes those alive in Christ and rewards those in Christ, Jesus as God pours out his wrath upon the lost world gathered under the beast.

That is my view without giving 10 plus pages of scripture in context.
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Amos 5:14-20, "5:14, "Seek good and not evil, so that you live. And let [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the Mighty One of hosts be with you, as you have spoken."5:15, "Hate evil and love good, and set up right-ruling in the gate. It might be that [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the Mighty One of hosts shows favor to the remnant of Yosĕph."5:16, "Therefore [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the Mighty One of hosts, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], said this, “There is wailing in all open squares, and in all the streets they say, ‘Alas! Alas!’ and shall call the farmer to mourning, and skilled lamenters to wailing."5:17, "“And in all vineyards there is wailing, for I pass through your midst,” said [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]."5:18, "Woe to you who are longing for the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]! What does the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]mean to you? It is darkness, and not light,"5:19, "as when a man flees from a lion, and a bear shall meet him; or entered his house, rested his hand on the wall, and a serpent shall bite him."5:20, "Is not the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]darkness, and not light? Is it not very dark, with no brightness in it?"[/FONT]
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Obadiah 1:15-16, “For the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is near upon all the nations. As you have done, it shall be done to you, your reward shall come back on your own head. For as you have drunk on my set-apart mountain, so do all the nations drink continually. And they shall drink and shall swallow, and they shall be as though they had never been.”[/FONT]
 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Zephaniah 1:7-18, "1:7, "Hush! in the presence of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. For the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is near, for [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has prepared a slaughter, He has set apart His invited ones."1:8, "“And it shall be, in the day of the slaughter of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], that I shall punish the rulers and the sons of the sovereign, and all such as are clad in foreign garments."1:9, "“And I shall punish on that day all who leap over the threshold, who fill their masters’ houses with violence and deceit."1:10, "“And on that day there shall be,” declares [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “the sound of a cry from the Fish Gate, and of a howling from the Second Quarter, and of a great crashing from the hills."1:11, "“Howl, you inhabitants of Maḵtĕsh, for all the merchant people shall be silenced, all those weighing out silver shall be cut off."1:12, "“And at that time it shall be, that I search Yerushalayim with lamps and punish the men who are settled on their dregs, who say in their heart, ‘[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]does no good, nor does He evil.’"1:13, "“And their wealth shall become plunder, and their houses laid waste. And they shall build houses but not inhabit them, and they shall plant vineyards but not drink their wine.”"1:14, "Near is the great day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], near and hurrying greatly, the noise of the day of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. Let the mighty man then bitterly cry out!"1:15, "That day is a day of wrath, a day of distress and trouble, a day of waste and ruin, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,"1:16, "a day of a shophar and sounding – against the walled cities and against the corner towers."1:17, "“And I shall bring distress on men, and they shall walk like blind men – because they have sinned against [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], and their blood shall be poured out like dust and their flesh like dung.”"1:18, "Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And by the fire of His jealousy all the earth shall be consumed, for He makes a sudden end of all those who dwell in the earth."[/FONT]
 
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The scripture does not use the term day of the lord to represent Sunday.That term is an oral tradition of men. The day of the or the lord is the same day as the last day when the sound of Christ the seventh trump . it will be the last day that he gives a new born again spirit to the last person he intended to save.

Revelations is signified using the things seen to represent that not seen (the faith principle) from the stand point of the last day.

Philippians calls that same day the day of Jesus Christ . Six times in John the last day.In Job 19 the latter day

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

We are in the latter days.They began at the renting of the veil. It signaled the end of temple life. The time of reformation had come. No literal thousand year reign of this corrupted creation. No need for that.
 

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post #70
Satan- 6000 years [working at] decieving the world.
Satan- 1000 years [forced rest] from swaying mans minds

666, No 7 = No Sabbath
not sure if we are on the same page,
post 70 was an after thought to post 69

It was about the first 1000 years of man, and the last 1000 years.
not about satan and the # 666

post #69

Sabbath
The 6 days[6000 years mans way]toil work-
7th day 1- Sabbath rest , [1000 years reign] promised rest.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day.

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the first 6000 years satan has been working at decieving the nations,
the last 1000 years satan will be locked up.


a forced rest by God from decieving the nations anymore.
I thought this was ironic the devil will be in a forced rest, at the
same time the whole world will be at rest, they breakforth into singing.
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Now it you are talking about The Number of the ‘Beast’—666—Whose Number Is It?
Here are all the scriptures speaking directly of this number:

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six”
(Revelation 13:17-18).

“And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten
the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the
number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God”
(Revelation 15:2).

Note From these scriptures, we have the following definite points:

1. The beast has a number and may be identified, if we have wisdom,
by this number.

2. The number is 666.

3. we are told to count this number—that is, add it up. The same Greek word
is used elsewhere only in Luke 14:28: Count the cost.

4. This number, 666, is the number of the beast. The only Bible interpretation
of this symbol, “beast,” is a kingdom or the king who rules it and, therefore,
really is the kingdom (Daniel 7:17-18, 22-24, 27).

Therefore 666 must be the number of the kingdom, or government, or empire,
as well as that of the king who founds or rules it.

5. The expression “the name of the beast, or the number of his name” makes plain
that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire.

6. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number
in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”

The Beast Is Not the Woman [a church]


In the 17th chapter of Revelation we find a beast, and a woman—a great, wealthy
but fallen woman—who was riding the beast. The Bible describes the symbol “woman”
to mean a church (see 2?Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7; Ephesians 5:22-27).


The beast of Revelation 13 is not the woman who rode the beast
—the beast is the government, and the woman is a church.

The beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire!


This beast had a deadly wound (Revelation 13:3). That means the beast ceased altogether
to exist or function as it had since 31 b.c. Yet its deadly wound was later healed, after which
(verse 5) it continued to exist another 1,260 years!

The Founder of Rome


The founder and first king of Rome was Romulus.
The Roman Empire was named after him.
His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom.
And every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name—a Roman.

When John wrote this Revelation, telling us to count the number of the beast,
he wrote in the Greek language. Consequently, we should look for this name,
and the number 666, in this language recognized in the Bible, not in the Latin.

We are all familiar with the Roman numerals, where letters are used for numbers.
All understand that I is 1, v is 5, x is 10, etc. But many do not know that the Greek
language, in which the book of Revelation was written, also uses letters for numbers.

In the Greek this name was understood in the second century a.d. to have originally
been spelled Lateinos. It signifies “Latin man” or “the name of Latium,”
from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language.


This word, too, signifies “Roman.” In the Greek, l is 30, a is 1, t is 300, e is 5,
I is 10, n is 50, o is 70, s is 200. Count these figures. They count to exactly 666!

It is indeed no coincidence that the name of the kingdom, its founder and first king,
and of each man in the kingdom, counts to exactly 666!


Certainly the beast stands identified!
 

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Malachi 4:1-6, "4:1, "“For look, the day shall come, burning like a furnace, and all the proud, and every wrongdoer shall be stubble. And the day that shall come shall burn them up,” said יהוה of hosts, “which leaves to them neither root nor branch."4:2, "“But to you who fear My Name the Sun of Righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings. And you shall go out and leap for joy like calves from the stall."4:3, "“And you shall trample the wrongdoers, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day that I do this,” said יהוה of hosts."4:4, "“Remember the Torah of Mosheh, My servant, which I commanded him in Ḥorĕḇ for all Yisra’yl – laws and right-rulings."4:5, "“See, I am sending you Ěliyah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome Day of יהוה,
And he shall turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the earth with utter destruction.”