Why are the skies like this....

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Karraster

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#61
so true, Breno,

and where do those toxic chems go, 'down, down, on the people, as with all of the other
chems, into the very air we breathe...

hub and I have become so sensitive to them, especially me, that even in my doctor's office
and the pharmacy's, and popular stores, that i will very soon have to wear the 'masks' to keep
from inhaling all of the toxins from going into my lungs...I have had to actually leave some stores
that do 'over-kill' to keep their customers from seeing 'bugs/pests' - the poisons are so strong these days,
that the damage they do to us is off of the scale,,,especially in the 'southern states...

a very few years ago, when a new WM opened, with all of the fresh chems, I actually got sick in the store
and had to run for the bathroom, and this was shortly after we had entered the store,,,it was an
horrible experience...I'm ready to not care what others may think if I have to wear a 'white mask',
but I just can't let hub do all of the shopping, even though he doesn't really care to do this chore...
he does so much already, that I don't think wearing the mask will be a burden, but a help and relief
for him...

friends, do what you have to do, if you want to live a longer and stronger life, and don't let the world
dictate what Jesus has meant for your body to do in order to live and make the very most of what
He has given to us...TAKE CHARGE over satan's destructive plans to kill us before our time...
I'm sorry about your sensitivity, on a positive note perhaps it will make others aware. I have chemical masks and dust masks I wear to do certain home building related tasks. There is a big difference between the 2. Chemical masks are very confining and uncomfortable. Dust masks only reduce dust. It's not uncommon to see people wear this type while mowing their lawn. And yeah, the skies are pretty bad here.

Isn't it surreal? Living in a society that is so fake, that the truth actually incites mockery, or even anger. We lie to our children (santa clause easter bunny) and then expect they will be honest with us. We vote election after election, hoping for a different outcome, never seeing the puppeteer behind the curtain. With fingers in our ears, and la la la la on our lips, we dance and sing and silly willy nilly our days away never a serious moment because we might glimpse a sliver of truth. We're scared of the truth, the truth might change us.
 

Zmouth

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#62
Wow, look at that second picture, so much chemicals spraying out of the jet engines.
Here is the NASA webpage where they acknowledge dispersing chemical into the atmosphere in particular the following chemicals.


  • Tri-methyl aluminum (TMA),
  • Lithium, and
  • Barium.

Considering the instruction given in Proverbs, I'll let you discover the reason how and why the chemicals are dispersed for yourself.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sounding-rockets/tracers/metals.html

Here a song to listen to while you read the information provided on the subject. LINK
 

Tommy379

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#63
Y'all agreed to be sprayed with chemicals. It is in the user agreement for Windows, Android, iOS, and CC.
 

tourist

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Looks just like where I live in Florida so it's no big deal.
 
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#65
just try and imagine the chems that the stores, and all other buildings have to use
in order for people to not see roaches and other bugs...

we have an old friend who worked for many years in a very popular store here in the south,
and she told us that they used to have a system that used to just spray out the whole store,
she later told us that they went to some kind of paste...

as we age, our bodies become much more intolerant of poisons, it's kind of like a
damaging build-up over the years - take care B & S's, and please, don't use
'bleach' or products that contain it...
 

Tommy379

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There has been contrails in the sky, everywhere, everyday, since before WWII. Have y'all ever looked up before?
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MichaelOwen

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It's laughable to me how deep ya'lls mind has gone into this whole conspiracy theory crap and lending your research and information to the internet.....it's utterly laughable. People in their 50's still believing in this stuff, wow, like an egg in the frying pan. Put some salt and butter on it, and you're done. Better let go of this stuff....seriously.
 

Enoch987

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It's relevant because if chemicals are being sprayed out of planes then they must be coming from something on the plane. So my question is, from where on the plane is it coming from?

Very relevant if you want to go from speculation to fact.
the jet fuel has aluminum barium salts added. these planes fly back and forth across our city. The contrails from when I was a boy had a short life before they would dissappear. These hang on.
 
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claysmithr

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#69
Why are they spraying lithium? Are they trying to treat the population for bipolar? lol...
 
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They are chemtrails.
Contrails are so very rare that few people ever see one and they dissipate in a matter of seconds.
The only time one would be seen is from military aircraft during wartime.
Commercial airliners do not produce contrails because they use high bypass turbo engines which do not produce any kind of trail.
They can produce a wind vortice by turning fast or during lift but those disappear within a second.
Commercial airliners fly at around 10,000 feet. Military jets flying over civilian zones will fly at around 30,000 feet. Contrails are not seen at this height.
They are usually seen at 40,000 feet in colder areas and would only last a few seconds at most.
A jet would have to be around 100,000 feet for one to linger for any significant time, but they still dont stay in the air all day.
Contrails are produced because in high altitude, there is a lack of oxygen and it is so far below freezing that ice crystals linger in the air.
When these ice crystals are sucked into a rocket engine they are turned to steam. Due to a low oxygen, the steam can become vacuum sealed and linger for some time, but its weight does not allow it to stay for days like the chemtrails
that we see.
It would make its way back towards the clouds where the hydrogenic layer of the atmosphere belongs.
Furthermore, military aircraft would not have any business flying over civilian occupied zones, especially only them daily.
Training us done in remote areas only. Military transport traffic is always done in covert.
They are not shuffling thousands of jets around every day to move them, they all already have assigned spots.
Some claim that lithium is produced from jet engine exhaust, but there is no lithium in jet engines and no way for it to be produced from an engine.
If chemicals came from a jet engine they would come out as smoke exhaust.
Smoke exhaust is not usually seen unless afterburners are lit and even then it dissipates in a matter of seconds just like a car would.
 
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#71
I may be Blond and I know I'm starting to get on the older side, but I simply always thought it was plane exhaust or them getting rid of their extra fuel to land.

If you live near an airport like I do you see this all the time. I've lived in my current home for about 15 years now and haven't died or gotten sick from whatever those trails left behind are so can't be all that bad or even a conspiracy since it's out in the open and you see it all the time.

Then again I'm getting old and just a Blond...
This would not explain them being released in cities that dont have airports.
 
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#72
I began learning to fly when I was 9, and many in my family are involved in aviation. I have to frankly say that many of you haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.
He was not telling the truth. No airstrip would allow anyone under 16 to fly a plane, even for training classes. Every last thing is logged and they dont make exceptions because their entire business would be destroyed in no time by the feds.
More likely a family member was an aviator when he was a child.
 
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The comforting side in any conspiracy debate is the one that believes somebody in power actually has a plan. The truth is far more disturbing.

But if there really was a conspiracy among those in power, it would be lost in all the fake conspiracies that conspiracy theorists keep yelling about. If we ever did uncover a real conspiracy there would be no way to tell people about it because they have already become so jaded by conspiracy theorists complaining about all the conspiracies they think they have uncovered.
This is how it is.
 

Tommy379

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#74
They are chemtrails.
Contrails are so very rare that few people ever see one and they dissipate in a matter of seconds.
The only time one would be seen is from military aircraft during wartime.
Commercial airliners do not produce contrails because they use high bypass turbo engines which do not produce any kind of trail.
They can produce a wind vortice by turning fast or during lift but those disappear within a second.
Commercial airliners fly at around 10,000 feet. Military jets flying over civilian zones will fly at around 30,000 feet. Contrails are not seen at this height.
They are usually seen at 40,000 feet in colder areas and would only last a few seconds at most.
A jet would have to be around 100,000 feet for one to linger for any significant time, but they still dont stay in the air all day.
Contrails are produced because in high altitude, there is a lack of oxygen and it is so far below freezing that ice crystals linger in the air.
When these ice crystals are sucked into a rocket engine they are turned to steam. Due to a low oxygen, the steam can become vacuum sealed and linger for some time, but its weight does not allow it to stay for days like the chemtrails
that we see.
It would make its way back towards the clouds where the hydrogenic layer of the atmosphere belongs.
Furthermore, military aircraft would not have any business flying over civilian occupied zones, especially only them daily.
Training us done in remote areas only. Military transport traffic is always done in covert.
They are not shuffling thousands of jets around every day to move them, they all already have assigned spots.
Some claim that lithium is produced from jet engine exhaust, but there is no lithium in jet engines and no way for it to be produced from an engine.
If chemicals came from a jet engine they would come out as smoke exhaust.
Smoke exhaust is not usually seen unless afterburners are lit and even then it dissipates in a matter of seconds just like a car would.
Could you cite sources for the information you have written? Everytime I fly commercial, it's been at over 30k feet.
 

Musicus

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#75
They are chemtrails.
Contrails are so very rare that few people ever see one and they dissipate in a matter of seconds.
The only time one would be seen is from military aircraft during wartime.
Commercial airliners do not produce contrails because they use high bypass turbo engines which do not produce any kind of trail.
They can produce a wind vortice by turning fast or during lift but those disappear within a second.
Commercial airliners fly at around 10,000 feet. Military jets flying over civilian zones will fly at around 30,000 feet. Contrails are not seen at this height.
They are usually seen at 40,000 feet in colder areas and would only last a few seconds at most.
A jet would have to be around 100,000 feet for one to linger for any significant time, but they still dont stay in the air all day.
Contrails are produced because in high altitude, there is a lack of oxygen and it is so far below freezing that ice crystals linger in the air.
When these ice crystals are sucked into a rocket engine they are turned to steam. Due to a low oxygen, the steam can become vacuum sealed and linger for some time, but its weight does not allow it to stay for days like the chemtrails
that we see.
It would make its way back towards the clouds where the hydrogenic layer of the atmosphere belongs.
Furthermore, military aircraft would not have any business flying over civilian occupied zones, especially only them daily.
Training us done in remote areas only. Military transport traffic is always done in covert.
They are not shuffling thousands of jets around every day to move them, they all already have assigned spots.
Some claim that lithium is produced from jet engine exhaust, but there is no lithium in jet engines and no way for it to be produced from an engine.
If chemicals came from a jet engine they would come out as smoke exhaust.
Smoke exhaust is not usually seen unless afterburners are lit and even then it dissipates in a matter of seconds just like a car would.
Don't think so. Commercials cruise at around 35k or just under, but it usually takes half an hour to get there. Private jets cruise at about 41k, military (non-cargo) up to 49k. The longer the flight the higher they tend to go, in order to conserve fuel. Almost nothing goes over 50k (of course, most flat-liners don't believe the sky goes that high).

Military standard cargo flights follow some of the same airways as commercial cargo, but they have a lot of their own designated routes too, and they have 6-12k ceilings. Some go up to 30+kfeet.

High bypass turbofans do create contrails when the weather and operating conditions are optimum. The air bypass cools the engine somewhat, making for a more efficient burn, but it doesn't change the exhaust chemical makeup much, which has water in it (all internal combustion engines have water as a byproduct), which is what causes the contrail for the most part.

There are also what is called 'persistent contrails' which last quite a while, and often end up looking like clouds (they are technically clouds, actually), and they are quite common, usually where it's cold and wet. It doesn't really account for everything I see up there, and there could be wacky gov't things going on, but not much.

So what are those two photos at the top? The 2nd one looks familiar somehow, but the top one looks mighty suspicious.

By the way, the over 16 rules only apply to getting a license (17 years of age) or flying solo, not to training, and not to private strips. I learned to fly when I was 12 at a private strip on a farm.
 

Musicus

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They are chemtrails.
Contrails are so very rare that few people ever see one and they dissipate in a matter of seconds.
The only time one would be seen is from military aircraft during wartime.
Commercial airliners do not produce contrails because they use high bypass turbo engines which do not produce any kind of trail.
They can produce a wind vortice by turning fast or during lift but those disappear within a second.
Commercial airliners fly at around 10,000 feet. Military jets flying over civilian zones will fly at around 30,000 feet. Contrails are not seen at this height.
They are usually seen at 40,000 feet in colder areas and would only last a few seconds at most.
A jet would have to be around 100,000 feet for one to linger for any significant time, but they still dont stay in the air all day.
Contrails are produced because in high altitude, there is a lack of oxygen and it is so far below freezing that ice crystals linger in the air.
When these ice crystals are sucked into a rocket engine they are turned to steam. Due to a low oxygen, the steam can become vacuum sealed and linger for some time, but its weight does not allow it to stay for days like the chemtrails
that we see.
It would make its way back towards the clouds where the hydrogenic layer of the atmosphere belongs.
Furthermore, military aircraft would not have any business flying over civilian occupied zones, especially only them daily.
Training us done in remote areas only. Military transport traffic is always done in covert.
They are not shuffling thousands of jets around every day to move them,
they all already have assigned spots.
Some claim that lithium is produced from jet engine exhaust, but there is no lithium in jet engines and no way for it to be produced from an engine.
If chemicals came from a jet engine they would come out as smoke exhaust.
Smoke exhaust is not usually seen unless afterburners are lit and even then it dissipates in a matter of seconds just like a car would.
I would add that yes, there are hundreds if not thousands of military cargo flights each day. They move cargo around. Military Aircraft Tracker | Plane Flight Tracker
 

tourist

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Could you cite sources for the information you have written? Everytime I fly commercial, it's been at over 30k feet.
Same here and I have flown many times, usually in the 30k - 40k ft range.
 

Oncefallen

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I began learning to fly when I was 9, and many in my family are involved in aviation. I have to frankly say that many of you haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.
He was not telling the truth. No airstrip would allow anyone under 16 to fly a plane, even for training classes. Every last thing is logged and they dont make exceptions because their entire business would be destroyed in no time by the feds.
More likely a family member was an aviator when he was a child.
If I were you I would at least do a little research before you make accusations of lying.

The FAA has no minimum age for someone to begin flight training. You have to be 16 to get your solo license and 17 to get your private pilot license (allowing you to carry passengers) and 18 to get your commercial pilot license (allowing you to fly for compensation). I knew this firsthand because a friend of mine began his instruction at 13 and soloed at 16 but regardless of that it took 30 seconds to confirm that knowledge online.

PS: Don't confuse commercial with jet airlines since there are numerous grades of commercial ratings.. That's a jump up and you need to be 21 to co-pilot and 23 to pilot.
 
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Isny

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If I were you I would at least do a little research before you make accusations of lying.

The FAA has no minimum age for someone to begin flight training. You have to be 16 to get your solo license and 17 to get your private pilot license (allowing you to carry passengers) and 18 to get your commercial pilot license (allowing you to fly for compensation). I knew this firsthand because a friend of mine began his instruction at 13 and soloed at 16 but regardless of that it took 30 seconds to confirm that knowledge online.

PS: Don't confuse commercial with jet airlines since there are numerous grades of commercial ratings.. That's a jump up and you need to be 21 to co-pilot and 23 to pilot.
Actually most of the above is correct. A person under age 16 can be in the left seat as long as the PIC is in the right seat. It is quite common for someone to celebrate a 16th birthday by making his/her first solo. I know of no "solo licence". A person either has a private or commercial certificate (or ATP). I have flown many GA planes and have never heard of a solo license.

Flying can be one of the high points in a person's life.
It is mine......Fly safely and blue skies always!

Note: Instead of the word "lying", a better word would be misinformed.