Why Do Charismatics Tend To Be CharisMANIACS?

[Lucy-Pevensie]

This thread was started with an agenda. A sustained attack on "Charismatics" It's really not needed.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Big blanket. Not all adhere to what you say is a False doctrine. You have an issue with titles? Apostle, prophets and pastor, they are part of the 5 five ministries are they not? And you do not know the difference of "Classic Pentecostals and Charismatics" . Anyone can be charismatic it is not a denomination it is an experience that identifies with the Gift of the Holy Spirit from the Greek word Charismata .

How am I mistaken about what I said is the difference between Classical Pentecostals and Charismatics?

 

[Depleted]

So why not get stuck into the Catholics, Anglicans and Lutherans?
They all claim to have the Holy Spirit as well.

You know not what you say!

There was a thread on the first page about Catholics. It was on the first page for years, because people were still arguing it, unaware that the post was written by the owner of this site... or aware, but they just liked to argue it anyway.

 

[Depleted]

She doesn't have to prove anything to you and neither does anyone else. Who has time for all of that drama?

Apparently, quite a few of us since we're still here. lol

 

[Depleted]

Most born-again Believers (90%) only enter into salvation and not progressive sanctification. Most only understand two things:

1. Christ died on the Cross for their sins.

2. They have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior.

Worms can change from pink to purple depending on how much pH is in the decayed material they're eating.

(This is where we bring up arbitrary sentences that aren't true, right?)

 

[Depleted]

Greetings.
Not sure about d people u r referring too - d charisMANIACS that is.

Don't worry. No one understands the term. It was a made-up word to start some melodrama.

 

[Depleted]

Pardon me, but is charismatics now a religion of its own?

Nah. More like a lifestyle choice. You know how some people are quiet and reserved, and yet other people are loud and animated? Can you really tell what their beliefs are from how they act?

It's something like that. Charismatics are the loud and animated. And, I honestly don't know if we've come up for a word to describe the quiet and reserved. My denomination is known for being quiet and reserved -- except for pastors teaching -- but we don't have a word for that that tells why we're quiet and reserved. And we're not the only quiet-and-reserved denomination, so can't go by the name of the denomination either.

 

[valleyofdecision]

Fine. You never contribute to discussions anyways. All you do is attack me. Bye bye.

I contribute just fine, the problem is, it is not what you want to hear and Heaven forbid anyone tells you the truth.

 

[Depleted]

What is a Charismatic? I have heard of that Christian position along time ago, but I have no idea what or who they are.

It's not a description of a denomination or anything. More like a type of Christian.

They are really into sign gifts -- speaking in tongues, healing, prophecy and stuff like that. That's part of it. They're also big into gesturing during church. You can spot them as the ones raising their hands during the worship part of the service. SOME of them are into dancing in the aisles during worship too.

Now some have taken it so far as barking and laughing uncontrollable. (And, that's hogwash, because there is no particularly good reason to start laughing to begin with, so it is controlled laughing hysterically.) Others are big into "slain in the spirit" when you fall down after being touched by a preacher. Now they have taken it to auras and cultish crap pretending it is Christ related. Personally, I think this is the fake-charismatic group.

I'm not charismatic (anymore), but I know quite a few who are believers. (And some who aren't.) So, nothing right or wrong about it. I really just take them as the animated part of the church. lol

 

[Depleted]

Why are they called Charismatic? Has it anything to do with Charisma based attitudes.

Getting your information on it from Dev is like trusting the tabloids at the grocery store check out lines. (I am assuming you all have the papers that say a woman had an alien child too. lol)

 

[Depleted]

your heart motivation is wrong above anything else.

Charismatic sand Pentecostals both agree that the initial evidence of the the baptism of the Holy Spirit is tongues.

Warning: before too long, Dev will be telling you that you agree with him, (even when you never have), so he's right. It's his game. Keep watching, and by the time he's done with this thread, according to him, everyone agreed with him, so he is right.

 

[Deade]

Why is it every time DevotiontoBible starts a thread it ends up an argufest. If he has something to share, he should work on his delivery. That's all for me.

 

[Depleted]

This thread was started with an agenda. A sustained attack on "Charismatics" It's really not needed.

Of course. This is Dev's game.

I'm just enjoying the reactions of everyone trying to straighten him out. (Can't be done naturally. Could only be done supernaturally.)

 

[Depleted]

Why is it every time DevotiontoBible starts a thread it ends up an argufest. If he has something to share, he should work on his delivery. That's all for me.

It's a problem with any site who gets new people all the time. The old people stop playing the game, but the new people don't yet know it's just a game.

 

[stonesoffire]

Of course. This is Dev's game.

I'm just enjoying the reactions of everyone trying to straighten him out. (Can't be done naturally. Could only be done supernaturally.)

This is true for all the forums where there is differences.

 

[stonesoffire]

It doesn't matter what I believe. The point is that I am being attacked as though I have a bad heart and my thread has no merit. I provided proof of my main claim here of the Charismatic heterodoxy using that article as one example. If you think my thread lacks credibility then prove me wrong. Now is your opportunity.

All your threads lack credibility IMO.

If you can't tell me what you think about the subject of possession, then I can't prove you wrong. I (or agree with you) I can if you believe Christians can be possessed.

I don't give a fig what article says what. I care what scriptures say.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

All your threads lack credibility IMO.

If you can't tell me what you think about the subject of possession, then I can't prove you wrong. I (or agree with you) I can if you believe Christians can be possessed.

I don't give a fig what article says what. I care what scriptures say.

Stop making it about me please. I was attacked that my thread lacks credibility. I provided facts in the form of an article from a Charismatic mother ship publication which supports my claim about Charismatics. Nobody can refute me with any counter facts. Personal attacks on me don't refute me.

 

[stonesoffire]

Stop making it about me please. I was attacked that my thread lacks credibility. I provided facts in the form of an article from a Charismatic mother ship publication which supports my claim about Charismatics. Nobody can refute me with any counter facts. Personal attacks on me don't refute me.

I'm not trying to attack you actually. A joke at your expense? Yeah probably but truthfully, don't you think you have it coming? Your attitude needs work.

So what do you believe? Come on...out with it.

 

[BillG]

It's not a description of a denomination or anything. More like a type of Christian.

They are really into sign gifts -- speaking in tongues, healing, prophecy and stuff like that. That's part of it. They're also big into gesturing during church. You can spot them as the ones raising their hands during the worship part of the service. SOME of them are into dancing in the aisles during worship too.

Now some have taken it so far as barking and laughing uncontrollable. (And, that's hogwash, because there is no particularly good reason to start laughing to begin with, so it is controlled laughing hysterically.) Others are big into "slain in the spirit" when you fall down after being touched by a preacher. Now they have taken it to auras and cultish crap pretending it is Christ related. Personally, I think this is the fake-charismatic group.

I'm not charismatic (anymore), but I know quite a few who are believers. (And some who aren't.) So, nothing right or wrong about it. I really just take them as the animated part of the church. lol

I have been slain in the spirit.
Only once mind you. When it did happen I wasn't pushed down.
Funny thing was that being slain in the spirit seemed to be the norm and an experience that people wanted.
To be honest when I saw it week in week out.

On the night I went forward I wasn't seeking the experience, I just wanted prayer.

Myself I believe signs and gifts are still for us today.
But I would say when it goes beyond what we see in the N.T. church then it needs to questioned.

I remember after the Toronto movement seeing send weird stuff happening.

As you say, people barking like dogs, and I saw few also lifting an arm up in the air and saying "The Holy Spirit is coming down my arm"

People shaking uncontrollable or in tears I don't have an issue with. But if it's happening all the time, then I have to say I do.

I think we need to test in a sense what is happening in the church.

You mention dancing in the aisles.
Not sure if that's an issue for you.

Yet we know David danced before the Lord.

 

[stonesoffire]

Am wondering if the barking is a spirit needing addressed. I've never seen anyone bark. Never went to Toronto.