Not By Works

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Saying dear forum rather than your previously favorite, dear reader, does not hide you peter.
And we are not without discernment. Yes, you were angry, so you retaliated, trading a blow for what you saw as a blow.
It's the opposite of forgiveness and turning the other cheek.
It's the opposite of walking as Christ walked. We'd all be in deep doo doo if he had traded blow for blow.
I never named him personally and made a truthful statement about both Jim Jones and the consequence and severity of all false teachers that lead people to hell!
 
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He is prety stupid. Of course when we see ourselves next to an almighty perfect God. Prety much everyone is stupid :p
I think about the intelligence of God alot....like yesterday....I was thinking how he designed, created and brought man to life from the dirt of the ground....and then how a lump of living cells clumped together as our brain can recall, have, utilize memory.....how does our brain store memory in living cells and electrical impluses....?!
 

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A beautiful truth a Hard lesson to learn
You brought back an old memory, from 1990 - 1999, we leaved in Crescent City, CA. We used to drive to Eureka, CA. to shop. On the way down HWY 101, there was a small village of Trinidad. And we would stop frequently to look at the view from their Lighthouse. You can see the similarity in those two Lighthouses:


 
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thats awesome that you finally saw the truth !!
I love Romans , my fav book !
Romans and Galatians puts to bed any and all legalistic, law keeping, working for dogma that has no power to save or justify a man before God
 
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I never named him personally and made a truthful statement about both Jim Jones and the consequence and severity of all false teachers that lead people to hell!
Please note: I said: trading a blow for what you SAW as a blow.
I was not saying it WAS a blow.
Don't make me wield the doodyhead emoji bro. :D
 
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Someone a while ago wanted me to point out where you have been dishonest in your post. Well here it is again.
When you make this statement:
"The promises, power and might of Christ matters not
Because on our works we stand tonight"

That is a false statement, meant to deceive, simply because we do not believe such a thing, and I believe you know it, but you continue to use it against me.

So let me say for the record that to me, the promises, power and might of Christ obviously matter. And we cannot stand tonight or any other night on our works only. No amount of works will earn me a place in heaven without the promises and power and might of Christ. They are intricately tied together. My works are dead without Christ, my faith in Christ is dead without works.

That is why they call us Christians because the promises and power and the might of Christ is the centerpiece of our lives.
Take it up with Jesus...the many that believe and push a works based salvation stand before him boasting of their works and not his work, power and promises....they get cast!
 
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Let me ask you a question ?

How would you share the Gospel with someone ??
Jesus came that we might know God loves and forgive us, and is willing to talk
and commune with us. We just need to repent and believe in His forgiveness and
walk in His ways. Our sin and failure is what leads us to death and judgement,
which Jesus through the cross has resolved if we are prepared to take it on.

Jesus gave His life as a sacrifice to pay the price of sin and draw us into holiness
purity and eternity with a life of righteousness.

We need to become part of the vine, to dwell in Him and He is us.
As Paul said to Timothy

Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you
to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which God will bring about in his own time
1 Timothy 6:12-15

Amen
 

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And the tragic truth....I love the Jewish people, have two grandfathers that liberated 2 of the Nazi death camps and would lay my life down for a Jew.....after all...one laid his life down for me!
Just Beautiful.
 

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Jesus came that we might know God loves and forgive us, and is willing to talk
and commune with us. We just need to repent and believe in His forgiveness and
walk in His ways. Our sin and failure is what leads us to death and judgement,
which Jesus through the cross has resolved if we are prepared to take it on.

Jesus gave His life as a sacrifice to pay the price of sin and draw us into holiness
purity and eternity with a life of righteousness.

We need to become part of the vine, to dwell in Him and He is us.
As Paul said to Timothy

Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you
to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which God will bring about in his own time
1 Timothy 6:12-15

Amen

1st Corinthians 15 1-4
 
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And the tragic truth....I love the Jewish people, have two grandfathers that liberated 2 of the Nazi death camps and would lay my life down for a Jew.....after all...one laid his life down for me!
Well I am glad to here this.
Then you will know what indoctrination and dehumanizing individual does to people to
enable them to behave in this way and still believe they are doing good things.

Once you stop loving people for who they are, no matter how flawed or difficult
they appear, this is where things end up.

It is why lawlessness and losing moral reference points leads to death. No matter
where and when this happens the results have been the same, Nazi's, Mao, Stalin,
Pol Pot, Rwanda, Jim Jones.

This is where I fail to see how by sharing verses of holiness, purity, love, victory,
overcoming, walking in the light, seeing love overcoming in the midst of evil and great
suffering like Corrie Ten Boom, condemnation and evil is connected with this.

What struck me was Pauls mention of this phrase,
"in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth"
2 Timothy 2:25

Illumination and restoration is in Gods hands, not mine, I can but share His word and revelation.
Dear Lord, show us your will and way, that we might know and follow,
Grant us repentance and humbleness to see our sin and seek forgiveness and restoration,
in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Amen
 
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Love this song from days gone by; written by: Randy Thomas and Sam Scott
 

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Well I am glad to here this.
Then you will know what indoctrination and dehumanizing individual does to people to
enable them to behave in this way and still believe they are doing good things.

Once you stop loving people for who they are, no matter how flawed or difficult
they appear, this is where things end up.

It is why lawlessness and losing moral reference points leads to death. No matter
where and when this happens the results have been the same, Nazi's, Mao, Stalin,
Pol Pot, Rwanda, Jim Jones.

This is where I fail to see how by sharing verses of holiness, purity, love, victory,
overcoming, walking in the light, seeing love overcoming in the midst of evil and great
suffering like Corrie Ten Boom, condemnation and evil is connected with this.

What struck me was Pauls mention of this phrase,
"in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth"
2 Timothy 2:25

Illumination and restoration is in Gods hands, not mine, I can but share His word and revelation.
Dear Lord, show us your will and way, that we might know and follow,
Grant us repentance and humbleness to see our sin and seek forgiveness and restoration,
in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Amen
when you refuse to acknowledge that you mis-represent what some one said, as you have been clearly shown multiple times in the last couple of days, and then constantly talk about purity and holiness , that has 0 creditability.

how about apologizing to the folks who have shown you what you did, then have a prayer. as Jesus said, leave your gift ( in this prayer ), at the alter, and go and be reconciled with your brother . that applies here.
 
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when you refuse to acknowledge that you mis-represent what some one said, as you have been clearly shown multiple times in the last couple of days, and then constantly talk about purity and holiness , that has 0 creditability.

how about apologizing to the folks who have shown you what you did, then have a prayer. as Jesus said, leave your gift ( in this prayer ), at the alter, and go and be reconciled with your brother . that applies here.
Looks like he won't be able to respond...but he'll be back. Again.
 

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Most bore with me through it in here. Some were abusive and nasty, but most were kind.
Then again, I wasn't abusive or nasty with them either.
Hi Stunnedbygrace, praise God the veil has been taken away which means you can see clearly our Wonderful Savior. Everyone here became tired (not at you of course), as in fatigued trying to explain day after day that Jesus payed it all, all to Him we owe. What stands in their way to accept Jesus full payment for sin, is it pride or blinded by self confidence.

God bless you and keep stayed on that Gospel Way......:)
 
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I think about the intelligence of God alot....like yesterday....I was thinking how he designed, created and brought man to life from the dirt of the ground....and then how a lump of living cells clumped together as our brain can recall, have, utilize memory.....how does our brain store memory in living cells and electrical impluses....?!
God's created our brains to be more hi-tech then all the world's computers combined and we only use less than 30 percent of it at one time.