Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

[LoveGodForever]

No you seek to,be under the Covenant on Mount Sinai and NOT the SPIRITUAL truths Jesus revaled on His sermon on the Mount about the SPIRITUAL TRUTHS and PURPOSES of the laws given at Mount Sinai.What you have an issue with is that you refuse to accept Jesus spiritual truths but cling to the worldly outward observances.

Ariel I think the issue for most is that you have made an OP that says; "Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!"
Here we are 54+ pages latter and you have not provided a single scripture in support of your OP.

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's Sabbath is EVERYDAY? This only shows you do not UNDERSTAND what the OLD Covenant is. If you do not understand what the OLD Covenant is how can you understand what the NEW Covenant is?

Not only have you not provided a single scripture for to support your OP. You are accusing people here are being under the OLD Covenant when no one believes we are living in the OLD COVENANT but are living in the NEW.

It is your understanding of what the OLD COVENANT is that is the problem. You reject God's WORD neither do you respond to the posts and the scriptures in them that disagree with you. This should be a warning to you if cannort respond to scriptures in God's WORD that disagree with your interpretation of God's WORD. God's WORD does not contradict itself.

The problem here is your understanding of what the OLD Covenant is and how it relates to the NEW but you refuse the scriptures sent to help you. If you reject God's WORD no one is to judge you it is between you and God but the word you reject will keep you out of God's KINGDOM if you follow your Catholic tradition and break the commandments of God.

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Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another.

1. CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

2. CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

3. CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

4. CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

6. CLICK HERE; THE OLD COVENANT LEADS TO THE NEW COVENANT


7. CLICK HERE; GOD’S LAWS BEFORE MOSES AND THE SABBATH IN CREATION

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).



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[LoveGodForever]

Paul obviously disagrees with you. He called the 10 commandments the ministration of death and condemnation that was to be done away with.

But if the ministration of death written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance, which was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation [be] glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. For if that which is done away [was] glorious, much more that which remaineth [is] glorious. 2 Corinthians 3:7-11​

I think Paul disagrees with your understanding of what the ministration of death means. WHY? God's LAW is the ministration of death because it reveals what SIN is and the wages of SIN is death and all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

God's LAW is not death as he says it is Holy, Just and Good. 2COR 3 is about the NEW COVENANT, SIN death penalty and walking in the SPIRIT.

God's LAW is the ministration of death because it points out what SIN is and the wages of SIN is death. God's LAW points out what SIN is and SIN is death not God's LAW.

God's LAW is not death but the ministration (showing) of it.

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What then is to be done away with? The ministration of death! That is SIN and the penalty of SIN through FAITH in Christ by walking in the Spirit of God's LAW written on the heart to LOVE through FAITH (Heb 8:10-12; 2Cor 3:2-3) . God's LAW is not done away with it is the death penalty and SIN that is done away through FAITH in God's WORD. God's LAW is Holy just and Good and through the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is (Romans 3:20)

This is further explained in Romans 7
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ROMANS 7
[6], But now we are delivered from the law, being dead to that in which we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
[7], What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, you shall not covet.
[8], But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, worked in me all manner of covetousness. For without the law sin was dead. <Romnas 3:20 God's LAw gives a knowledge of sin>
[9], For I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[10], And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[11], For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
[12], Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[13], Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
[14], For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[15], For that which I do I know not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[16], If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[17], Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[18], For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwells no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[19], For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[20], Now if I do that which I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[21], I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[22], For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[23], But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

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CONCLUSION: It is God's LAW that gives a knowledge of what SIN is that we might be justified (FORGIVEN) through FAITH and leads us to the foot of the cross to believe on the GIFT of salvation through God's dear son.Those that repent, confess and BELIEVE receive the gift of the Spirit to walk as he walked in love who first loved us (Romans 8).

It says that which was engraven in stone was done away with, ie, the 10 commandments. The Greek word that is translated done away means to nullify the power of. Jesus nullified the power of the law to condemn us by making us dead to the law. Law exerts no authority over dead people.

You are confused if God's LAW was done away with then there is no KNOWLEDGE of SIN if there is no knowledge of SIN there there is NO need of a Saviour if there is no need of a Saviour you are still in your SINS if you are still in your SIN you have NO SALVATION if you have NO SALVATION, you are LOST because the wages of SIN is death!

v11 The scripture is talking about the MINISTRATION of DEATH being done away. That is the death penalty for SIN being done away not God's LAW. God's LAW points out SIN it makes nothing perfect.

Your understanding of 2 COR 3 disagrees with the rest of the NEW TESTAMENT, the teachings and Jesus and all the Apostles and the Gospel and will keep you out of God's KINGDOM if you live a life of SIN.

Glory to Glory v11 is God's LAW, giving us the KNOWLDGE of SIN. The KNOWLEDGE of SIN leads the sinner (us) to Christ for FORGIVENESS of SIN and DEATH through FAITH. The scripture does not abolish God's LAW it is the death penalty the law puts us under.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,&lt;when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come&gt; calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodForever]

It's the 7th day of the week. What did you do differently last night and today, that you normally don't do?

Worship God the whole day not doing your own pleasure, keeping the day HOLY and resting in God's presence with Jesus the whole day NOT doing any WORK (business, domestic, cooking, shopping, buying and selling) doing God's work and not our own work. We follow Jesus by FAITH the works by LOVE for him who first LOVED us.

Your post above only shows you have no understanding of the 4th Commandment.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,&lt;when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come&gt; calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Ariel82]

My above post was a question where people could testify specifically how they honored God today....but I guess that is too much to ask.

Instead I get an attack and told again how much wiser someone thinks they are without any actual examples....like did you visit any widows or orphans?

Personally I honored God by going to the movies with my daughter and three of her friends for her birthday.

We went to see "I can only imagine."

A very powerful movie. Made us all cry.

 

[Ariel82]

You can attack and condemn that if you like but I believe God is pleased to have four little ten year old girls sing along with that song and understand that God can make heros out of monsters.

The song writer's dad was a monster that used to beat him but was totally changed after coming to Christ.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lrrq_opng

 

[prove-all]

We are told to honor the Sabbath ,
by not buying or selling things on this Holy day.

Just like Jesus throwing them out of the Temple,
on his Holy time, because they where buying and selling,
stealing from God, His Holy time, on the Sabbath day.

 

[Ariel82]

What I reject is your understanding of what the New Covenant laws we are under and the fact you try and place people under the Old Covenant.

Of course you would redefine both terms but that doesn't mean you are right.

 

[Studyman]

Sin existed, but the law didn't; not until Moses.

Where there is no Law there is no sin. Yet God says there was sin. So unless you believe God is a liar, there was a Law there as well.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

You preach there was no law, yet Jesus, the Word made Flesh, teaches differently. You realize that I can not take your religious traditions over the Word of God.

 

[LoveGodForever]

My above post was a question where people could testify specifically how they honored God today....but I guess that is too much to ask. Instead I get an attack and told again how much wiser someone thinks they are without any actual examples....like did you visit any widows or orphans? Personally I honored God by going to the movies with my daughter and three of her friends for her birthday.We went to see "I can only imagine."

A very powerful movie. Made us all cry.

Not at all dear, if poeple are presenting God's WORD that disagrees with you then you should not consider it an attack but help.

It is because of LOVE to you and others that many have come to share God's WORD with you.

Close not your eyes to the WORD of GOD. It is only in the WORD of GOD that we can find and FOLLOW Jesus. I do not think we honor God by going to the movies. We honor God by BELIEVING his WORD and FOLLOWING it.

It is only in LOVE that God's WORD is share with you Ariel because you are cared about.

 

[LoveGodForever]

What I reject is your understanding of what the New Covenant laws we are under and the fact you try and place people under the Old Covenant. Of course you would redefine both terms but that doesn't mean you are right.

Then PROVE it by using SCRIPTURE. Just saying so does not make it so. Here is all the scripture that disagrees with your understanding of the OLD and NEW COVENANTS that you have not responded to...

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another.

1. CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

2. CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

3. CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

4. CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

5. CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

6. CLICK HERE; THE OLD COVENANT LEADS TO THE NEW COVENANT


7. CLICK HERE; GOD’S LAWS BEFORE MOSES AND THE SABBATH IN CREATION

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Sola Scriptura where are you?

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,&lt;when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come&gt; calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Ariel, I am dying to see that movie!
Striving with someone who can't see any of the spirit of the word is futile. Leave them to God. You can't make a man see the spirit of the word - only the Holy Spirit can do that.

 

[graceNpeace]

Where there is no Law there is no sin. Yet God says there was sin. So unless you believe God is a liar, there was a Law there as well.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

You preach there was no law, yet Jesus, the Word made Flesh, teaches differently. You realize that I can not take your religious traditions over the Word of God.

You realize that I cannot takes your religious traditions over the word of God!

SHOW me the Scriptures that prove ANY of the Patriarch's from Adam until Moses (to whom God did give the Law) actually received the Law.

Gen 26:5 does not prove that Abraham had the Law (Torah) as given to Moses!

How is it that Genesis chapter 3 can record the entry of sin into the world according to your theory?
Not to mention the penalty for sin - death!

Are you telling me Adam and his wife had the Torah?
That Adam had a stone copy of the Ten commandments stashed somewhere?
This should be easy for you prove - after all you only have to search Genesis chapter's one and two to find this wondrous event where God gives Adam (and maybe his wife) the Law!
So, please, dazzle us with your exegetical and hermeneutical expertise....

 

[Ariel82]

Examples of how Jesus changed the law given at Sinai to a NEW law given on the Sermon on the mount.


Leviticus 24
19 Anyone who maims another shall suffer the same injury in return: 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; the injury inflicted is the injury to be suffered.

 

[Ariel82]

Examples of how Jesus changed the law given at Sinai to a NEW law given on the Sermon on the mount.


Leviticus 24
19 Anyone who maims another shall suffer the same injury in return: 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; the injury inflicted is the injury to be suffered.

Matthew 5

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’[f] 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.

 

[lightbearer]

Where there is no Law there is no sin. Yet God says there was sin. So unless you believe God is a liar, there was a Law there as well.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

You preach there was no law, yet Jesus, the Word made Flesh, teaches differently. You realize that I can not take your religious traditions over the Word of God.

Hey brother Amen!

Adam, which was the son of God. (Luk 3:38)

In that God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. (Gen 1:26)

In the image and likeness of GOD prior to the fall Adam kept GOD'S charge, HIS commandments, HIS statutes, and HIS laws. Showing the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another because that was who they were in HIS image and likeness. They did not need Tables of stone and ink on parchment to remind them. GOD's Spirit was part of who they were. They walked with GOD.

So when GOD rested on the 7th Day which HE blessed, and set apart so did Adam. He could not help himself it was part of who he was until the fall and even after. GOD certainly did not hallow (set apart) the Seventh Day for himself. The Sabbath was set apart (made) for man, not GOD.


Abraham obeyed GOD's voice, and kept GOD'S charge, HIS commandments, HIS statutes, and HIS laws. Showing the work of the law written in his heart. The image and likeness still governing HIS actions.

HIS commandments, HIS statutes, and HIS laws were in force through those who wished to follow the prodding of the HOLY SPIRIT which is part of the image and likeness in which we were made. For in HIM we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.


Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
(Luk 3:38; Gen 1:26; Rom 2:14-15; Gen 26:5; Act 17:28; Gal 3:19)


If the Law was added because of transgressions one could not transgress if there was nothing to transgress.

So therefore Paul is referring to the Laws describing righteousness being transcribed in the Book of the Law and the Decalogue.

The ordinances contained therein are forever and are now in our hearts, mouths and minds through Christ. This is what Adam had and gave up for his wife.

The ordinances pertaining to righteousness are forever. The ministration changed back to what was intended from the beginning. Written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God.

 

[Ariel82]

Here is another law change....

Leviticus 24
12You shall not swear by my name falsely, and so profane the name of your God: I am the LORD.


Matthew 5

33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one

 

[prove-all]

Matthew 5

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’[f] 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.

The God of the Old Testament clearly favored the death penalty.
The scriptures show that Jesus Christ was the God of the Old Testament.
In the New Testament book of Romans, God REAFFIRMS that authority:

“Let every soul be subject unto the governing authorities. For there is no authority except
from God, and the authorities that exist [speaking of man’s governments and courts] are
appointed by God.… For he [a government or court official] is God’s minister [“servant”
or “magistrate” in some translations] to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he
does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an AVENGER TO EXECUTE
WRATH on him who practices evil” (Romans 13:1-4; New King James Version).

 

[LoveGodForever]

You realize that I cannot takes your religious traditions over the word of God!

SHOW me the Scriptures that prove ANY of the Patriarch's from Adam until Moses (to whom God did give the Law) actually received the Law.

Gen 26:5 does not prove that Abraham had the Law (Torah) as given to Moses!

How is it that Genesis chapter 3 can record the entry of sin into the world according to your theory?
Not to mention the penalty for sin - death!

Are you telling me Adam and his wife had the Torah?
That Adam had a stone copy of the Ten commandments stashed somewhere?
This should be easy for you prove - after all you only have to search Genesis chapter's one and two to find this wondrous event where God gives Adam (and maybe his wife) the Law!
So, please, dazzle us with your exegetical and hermeneutical expertise....

CLICK HERE; GOD’S LAWS BEFORE MOSES AND THE SABBATH IN CREATION

 

[Ariel82]

God is God of the Old and New testament.

God didn't change. His laws for each covenant is what changed.

 

[Ariel82]

Old covenant they couldnt touch the mountain for fear of death.

The New Covenant...we have the Holy spirit that allows us to cry out Abba father.

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Hebrews 12
18For you have not come to what may be touched, a blazing fire and darkness and gloom and a tempest 19and the sound of a trumpet and a voice whose words made the hearers beg that no further messages be spoken to them. 20For they could not endure the order that was given, “If even a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned.” 21Indeed, so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, “I tremble with fear.”

22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23and to the assemblya of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.