HAVE YOU BEEN TO PURGATORY?
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Purgatory stems from necromancy which is seeking after the dead as if they were not dead but where in a place in between, once called limbo .It would afford their own selves time to finish that in which they say Christ has not. A picture of self righteousness
Those who promote necromancy would say the parable found in Luke 16 must be taken literaly as if those who have died could still commune with our father in heaven or saints that have left this realm under the sun as workers with familiar spirits, or what the Catholic must call patron saints.
Once a person leaves this realm under the sun there is no possibility of ever communing with one on earth forever more.
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Those who promote necromancy would say the parable found in Luke 16 must be taken literaly as if those who have died could still commune with our father in heaven or saints that have left this realm under the sun as workers with familiar spirits, or what the Catholic must call patron saints.
Once a person leaves this realm under the sun there is no possibility of ever communing with one on earth forever more.
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
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Its quite simple...
Purgatory denies the ability of the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ to Atone for our sins.. Those who believe in purgatory do not believe in the sufficiency of the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ and thus they are no Christians....
Christians must believe Jesus and trust that the Atonement He secured for their sins covers 100% of their sins... If people believe that they need to go to a place called purgatory to get their sins purged then they do not believe in the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ..
Purgatory denies the ability of the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ to Atone for our sins.. Those who believe in purgatory do not believe in the sufficiency of the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ and thus they are no Christians....
Christians must believe Jesus and trust that the Atonement He secured for their sins covers 100% of their sins... If people believe that they need to go to a place called purgatory to get their sins purged then they do not believe in the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ..
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in orther words you cant answer that question just as you couldnt explain the judgment that awaits everyone when they pass on from this world.
i have watched many lectures and read many articles on the DSS and the sin purification has been mentioned several times. i dont have the energy to look up the exact scroll right now and if i did you would still refuse to believe it.
i have watched many lectures and read many articles on the DSS and the sin purification has been mentioned several times. i dont have the energy to look up the exact scroll right now and if i did you would still refuse to believe it.
J
Hebrews 9:27
And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,
why did Paul think there was a judgment after death? did Paul not understand there is nothing for us to be judged for?
why do we ask for forgiveness of sins?
i agree, Christians should believe in Jesus and the scriptures, Jesus taught His Fathers word and the Father says we are held accountable for our actions.
And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,
why did Paul think there was a judgment after death? did Paul not understand there is nothing for us to be judged for?
why do we ask for forgiveness of sins?
i agree, Christians should believe in Jesus and the scriptures, Jesus taught His Fathers word and the Father says we are held accountable for our actions.
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There are a lot is quite a bit of paganism in the Roman Catholic practice.
At one time both purgatory and limbo were two different places that existed at the same time. It was either the current Pope or the former that said Limbo, where unbaptized dead babies were said to be sent, was now closed. But as far as I know purgatory is still open for business.
At one time both purgatory and limbo were two different places that existed at the same time. It was either the current Pope or the former that said Limbo, where unbaptized dead babies were said to be sent, was now closed. But as far as I know purgatory is still open for business.
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Its the execution of the previous judgment (he that believeth not is condemned already) the last day or the second death.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.John3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.John3:18
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It most definitly i9s a judgement.. When a judge orders compensation to an unjured party it is called a judgement.. Judgements can be both punishments and rewardings..
Read this parrable to see the concept of varying rewards revealed..
Luke 19: KJV
12 "He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. {13} And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. {14} But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. {15} And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. {16} Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. {17} And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. {18} And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds. {19} And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities."
Read this parrable to see the concept of varying rewards revealed..
Luke 19: KJV
12 "He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. {13} And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. {14} But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. {15} And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. {16} Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. {17} And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. {18} And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds. {19} And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities."
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so this judgment Paul speaks of is an error?
i actually embrace the gospel of Jesus, your version not so much, IMO Jesus did not come to undo everything His Father said up until that point. matter of fact Jesus even said scripture can not be laid aside, in order to make your "no judgment"theory work we have to lay aside many scriptures.
i actually embrace the gospel of Jesus, your version not so much, IMO Jesus did not come to undo everything His Father said up until that point. matter of fact Jesus even said scripture can not be laid aside, in order to make your "no judgment"theory work we have to lay aside many scriptures.
No one has been to purgatory......unless you have been to one of the following places..
a. Walmart on black Friday
b. The Sydney fish market
c. L.A. during rush hour
d. A line for a ride at Disney in Florida in summer
e. In a die casting shop in summer
etc.....
As far as a religious fact...it is non-existant!!
a. Walmart on black Friday
b. The Sydney fish market
c. L.A. during rush hour
d. A line for a ride at Disney in Florida in summer
e. In a die casting shop in summer
etc.....
As far as a religious fact...it is non-existant!!
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EVERYTHING that Jesus taught? It sounds to me like you are confusing the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) with EVERYTHING that is written in the 4 gospel accounts. 
The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To BELIEVE the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
Galatians 1:11 - But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To BELIEVE the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
Galatians 1:11 - But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.