A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION OF CALVINISM

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Hevosmies

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But he said "armenianism", not "arminianism".

Armenianism is a special, Armenian flavor of arminianism you have not studied yet.
bro what is the difference between liebnizian or whatever it was and calvinism?
 

trofimus

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bro what is the difference between liebnizian or whatever it was and calvinism?
Its a very similar, but also a very different system, lol. You would probably need to read it for yourself.

"The best possible world" or "pre-established harmony" are some of basics.
 
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I knew with certainty that Calvinism as portrayed by the TULIP was false 40 years ago and have seen nothing to change my mind since. The greatest testimony against it are the thousands of good, fundamental, Bible-believing churches that are missions-supporting, faithfully witnessing to the saving Blood of Jesus Christ all around the world.

The rest of you can have your formalistic, high-church, ecclesiastical cemeteries . . . I'll take Jesus Christ--and Him crucified.
 

trofimus

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I knew with certainty that Calvinism as portrayed by the TULIP was false 40 years ago and have seen nothing to change my mind since. The greatest testimony against it are the thousands of good, fundamental, Bible-believing churches that are missions-supporting, faithfully witnessing to the saving Blood of Jesus Christ all around the world.

The rest of you can have your formalistic, high-church, ecclesiastical cemeteries . . . I'll take Jesus Christ--and Him crucified.
Ah, the hateful baptist is here again ;-)
 
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Love those verses, thanks for posting. God's character never changes. He has always been full of grace and mercy to those who heed His word. However, the manner in which God deals with man, does change. Ever seen a burning bush and God speak from it? Why? We have written Scripture now, no need for a burning bush, an angel of the Lord to come down, etc...
The thing is, I know what God can do to a broken and pitiful soul because I was there when He did it for mine. All I hear from these "Calvinists" is what God 'can't' do.

We have Scripture rightly divided, all they really have are creeds with a few proof texts thrown in to make them look churchy.

I bless God and have this testimony that my God is true!
 
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I knew with certainty that Calvinism as portrayed by the TULIP was false 40 years ago and have seen nothing to change my mind since. The greatest testimony against it are the thousands of good, fundamental, Bible-believing churches that are missions-supporting, faithfully witnessing to the saving Blood of Jesus Christ all around the world.

The rest of you can have your formalistic, high-church, ecclesiastical cemeteries . . . I'll take Jesus Christ--and Him crucified.
You've then learned little to nothing in the past 40 years accept how to hate others and deem yourself right with God while condemning others to hell like a good Pharisee.

Your OP and subsequent posts are what is a disgrace, it shows a vast misunderstanding of the Scriptures, Gospel and nature of God.

By the way, Reformed churches are also witnessing/missions minded churches.
 
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The thing is, I know what God can do to a broken and pitiful soul because I was there when He did it for mine. All I hear from these "Calvinists" is what God 'can't' do.

We have Scripture rightly divided, all they really have are creeds with a few proof texts thrown in to make them look churchy.

I bless God and have this testimony that my God is true!
Total straw man fabrication of the Reformed brothers.
 
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By the way, Reformed churches are also witnessing/missions minded churches. .
Yea, now there's a real hoot. God is sovereign in all things and He draws the elect, yet He is dependent upon man (some of them non-Calvinists, no doubt) to witness.

See you at the judgment, buddy.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Arminianism and calvinism are BOTH unbiblical.
Correct.

I have a friend that was attending our home Bible Study years ago, who had come from a "Freewill [lose-your-salvation] Baptist Church," but who was coming to grasp in recent years that "losing-your-salvation" was not a biblical idea nor doctrine. So was beginning to embrace Calvinism as true.

At this Bible Study, he [having been influenced by others elsewhere] stated [incorrectly], "there's only Arminianism or Calvinism, there is NO OTHER OPTION" [said with a kind of look of inward grieving evidencing on his face]. I immediately felt a deep sadness for him, that someone had convinced him of this faulty statement. :(
 
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"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory" (II Timothy 2:8-10).

What, are you too lazy to quote a passage of Scripture. Yea, the JW's rejoice in that they are being persecuted too when someone stands up to their heresies.
 
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"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory" (II Timothy 2:8-10).

What, are you too lazy to quote a passage of Scripture. Yea, the JW's rejoice in that they are being persecuted too when someone stands up to their heresies.
May I ask why you have so much hatred in your heart toward fellow believers, friend?
 
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I condemn no one, that is God's place . . . but it is your words that condemn you.
Now, now, you resort to mistruths? You've already told us calvinists are going to hell, thus you have condemned them. Why not own up and tell the truth? What is that about liars in the NT?
 
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"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory" (II Timothy 2:8-10).

What, are you too lazy to quote a passage of Scripture. Yea, the JW's rejoice in that they are being persecuted too when someone stands up to their heresies.
Pro. 15:1 A gentle response defuses anger,
but a sharp tongue kindles a temper-fire.

If you would act gentle towards your fellow believers, you stand a better chance of winning them.