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Notice...Peter does nit say and do good works to keep it...

Acts 16:30-31 “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
 
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He that believes HAS ETERNAL LIFE...not WILL HAVE AT THE END...

John 5:24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life."
 

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No works needed to be saved by faith

Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”
No works needed, but if your faith is not that Jesus can make you like Him, you
do not have faith at all.
 
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Believe and Confess Christ = SAVED ETERNALLY

Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."
 
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The simplicity found in Christ <--believe

For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
 
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Notice....Jesus does not say her works saved her or helped her be saved

And He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."
 

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Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God,
instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
Heb 6:1-2

If we do not believe we need to go on to perfection our faith is we can stay sinners expecting the Lord
to forgive us while we actively hate Him. That is not faith just delusion.
 
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Notice....it is not our works that allowed us to overcome....

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world eveb our faith.
 
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Those that believe shall NEVER PERISH

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
 
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No condemnation for those who believe....

Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
 

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the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,
and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.
Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
Rom 1:2-5

God declared His son to be the Son of God with power to call people to the obedience that comes from faith.

God did not declare His son to continue to walk is disobedience and unbelief but victory and walking in love.
 
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The will of the FATHER.....Jesus will raise up all that believe...

"For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day."
 
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These things written that you may believe and have eternal life because of belief....

But these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.
 
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He that believes is not judged as condemned....but rather rewarded!!

"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
 
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Chosen and saved through sanctification of the spirt and BELIEF INTO THE TRUTH

But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.
 

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At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another.
But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,
he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,
so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.
This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.
Titus 3:2-8
 

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This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God
1 John 5:4-5

We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.
1 John 4:6

We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him:
1 John 2:3-5

This faith destroys the ways of the world in the believer and delivers them into the ways of the Kingdom
and the Lords authority. Those dominated by the world have a broken defeated gospel where they limp
along in sin, and cannot ever see victory or change, a faith in God but not the victory of the cross.
 

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The simplicity found in Christ <--believe

For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
Who is wise and understanding among you? LET HIM SHOW IT BY HIS GOOD LIFE, by deeds DONE IN THE HUMILITY that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, DO NOT BOAST ABOUT IT OR DENY THE TRUTH. Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is EARTHLY, UNSPIRITUAL, OF THE DEVIL. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find DISORDER and every EVIL PRACTICE. But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all PURE; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and GOOD FRIIT, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. James 3:13-18

... To the PURE, all things are pure, but to those who are CORRUPTED and DO NOT BELIEVE, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are CORRUPTED. They claim to know God, but BY THEIR ACTIONS THEY DENY HIM. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT FOR DOING ANYTHING GOOD. Titus 1:15-16

...I WILL NOT VENTURE to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in LEADING THE GENTILES TO OBEY GOD by what I have said and done— Romans 15:18

...TEACHING THEM TO "OBEY" WHATEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU..." Matthew 28:18-20

...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GOD'S WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT. Therefore do not be partners with them. Ephesians 5:6-7

...Let God be TRUE...God cannot be mocked...Romans 3:3-4 & Galatians 6-7-10
 
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Who is wise and understanding among you? LET HIM SHOW IT BY HIS GOOD LIFE, by deeds DONE IN THE HUMILITY that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, DO NOT BOAST ABOUT IT OR DENY THE TRUTH. Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is EARTHLY, UNSPIRITUAL, OF THE DEVIL. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find DISORDER and every EVIL PRACTICE. But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all PURE; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and GOOD FRIIT, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. James 3:13-18

... To the PURE, all things are pure, but to those who are CORRUPTED and DO NOT BELIEVE, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are CORRUPTED. They claim to know God, but BY THEIR ACTIONS THEY DENY HIM. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT FOR DOING ANYTHING GOOD. Titus 1:15-16

...I WILL NOT VENTURE to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in LEADING THE GENTILES TO OBEY GOD by what I have said and done— Romans 15:18

...TEACHING THEM TO "OBEY" WHATEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU..." Matthew 28:18-20

...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GOD'S WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT. Therefore do not be partners with them. Ephesians 5:6-7

...Let God be TRUE...God cannot be mocked...Romans 3:3-4 & Galatians 6-7-10
Law abiding, comman keeping and religious works or hoop jumping saves no one genius....nor does it keep them saved.....Eternal life, everlasting life, faith, saved and justified by faith are ALL GIFTS of God that are irrevocable and given freely by grace through faith....your Catholic vanilla twist religious dogma will be found entrenched in the many GROUPING.....

FAITH PLUS ANYTHING FOR OR TO KEEP = false gospel, no power and hell to pay!!