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Now if by the law, desire to be gay is aroused and through that sin is born, how is it then desire if there is no law? Did the man stop being gay? No he did not. Why then must he stop his "habit"? Because the law says so? Are we under the law?
But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under law Gal 5:18
So, the question becomes. Would the Holy Spirit lead a person to remain in homosexual relationships the whole of their Christian life?
And so I am not seen to be gay bashing
Would the Holy Spirit lead someone to continue having affairs the whole of their Christian life?
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There is a stipulation to not being under law
But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under law Gal 5:18
So, the question becomes. Would the Holy Spirit lead a person to remain in homosexual relationships the whole of their Christian life?
And so I am not seen to be gay bashing
Would the Holy Spirit lead someone to continue having affairs the whole of their Christian life?
But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under law Gal 5:18
So, the question becomes. Would the Holy Spirit lead a person to remain in homosexual relationships the whole of their Christian life?
And so I am not seen to be gay bashing
Would the Holy Spirit lead someone to continue having affairs the whole of their Christian life?
So in essense, before Jesus death, one could not be gay and after,one still can't be gay and he has to accept Jesus? Where is the rest for his soul?
So in essense, before Jesus death, one could not be gay and after,one still can't be gay and he has to accept Jesus? Where is the rest for his soul?
Otherwise we could not say
Nothing is impossible for God
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If a gay person becomes saved, it is for them the same as anyone to stand on faith in Christ and the Holy Spirit will sanctify them. I believe that it is entirely possible for the Holy Spirit to transform anyone and to change anything about them that is contrary to how God would have them live
Otherwise we could not say
Nothing is impossible for God
Otherwise we could not say
Nothing is impossible for God
We can both see that it is wrong to be gay. For us then, how is it hope?
does an alcoholic ever stop being an alcoholic?
I have met many in church who say they are saved by the grace of God, but how many REALLY believe in their hearts they are kept by faith in the son of God who loved them and gave Himself for them
How many truly believe in their heart it is what God can do in them to change them by the power of the Spirit as they trust in Christ?
And I believe on this hinges the true victory and is why the power promised is seldom seen
If a person loves God with all their heart body soul and mind and lives in the truth of the Gospel of Grace written in the Bible I believe they will see the power seen in NT times, I am personally convinced of it
There is power in the truth
But when we rely on our own personal strength, or to any degree on our own personal goodness we are in effect ignoring the cross of Christ
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law(striving to be good enough for entry into Heaven) Christ died for nothing
Gal 2:21
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Exactly. We are to transform the mind and not the flesh.
I'm not trying to stop him from being gay but to give him peace of mind in love. For he is accepted.
I'm not trying to stop him from being gay but to give him peace of mind in love. For he is accepted.
the same thing goes for the one struggling with sexual sin (gay or heterosexual)
what we have to do is show them the damage sexual sin causes. So they can see God is not being a judgmental God, but a loving God.
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Yet the alcoholic can never drink again, or he will fall back into drinking and have to start over.
the same thing goes for the one struggling with sexual sin (gay or heterosexual)
what we have to do is show them the damage sexual sin causes. So they can see God is not being a judgmental God, but a loving God.
the same thing goes for the one struggling with sexual sin (gay or heterosexual)
what we have to do is show them the damage sexual sin causes. So they can see God is not being a judgmental God, but a loving God.
So the alcoholic or gay must stop? If so then it is of the law and faith is dead.
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So the alcoholic or gay must stop? If so then it is of the law and faith is dead.
So the alcoholic or gay must stop? If so then it is of the law and faith is dead.
NO!
It is because they are not under law that sin shall not be their master and by faith in Christ the Holy Spirit will transform them and take away the desire to do that which is contrary to what God desires. Their law is faith in the son of God who loved them and gave himself for them, but faith will see the supernatural power of God released into their lives
They do not believe their continued salvation depends on how they themselves in their own strength strive to live according to the good laws of God, but by faith, their one and only rigfhteousness for Heaven. And therein lies the victory
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As for one believing and then departing. I Think 1 John speaks directly at this. (This site was at least for me down all day yesterday, so I will read the rest of the posts to see if this was spoken of before I speak on it further.
As for belief vs faith.
One can believe something, yet not have faith in it.
If my life is in danger, and someone comes and says he can help. I might believe him, but might not trust him, so I might not do everything he says, because I do not realy trust (have faith) he can do what he says he can do.
Paul spoke to Jews who believed in Christ and his death, But showed they did not trust in this, by attempting to bring back the works of the law, or other works in order to what Paul called "perfect their faith" In other words, they had faith that Christ plus their works were more apt to save them than just faith in Christ alone.
James said anyone who believed does well, Even demons believes. Speaking of those who might believe, but have no faith (your faith is dead, or non existent.
I hope this helps..
Anyway, I am gonna head to church, will look at the rest of the posts when I get back.
As for belief vs faith.
One can believe something, yet not have faith in it.
If my life is in danger, and someone comes and says he can help. I might believe him, but might not trust him, so I might not do everything he says, because I do not realy trust (have faith) he can do what he says he can do.
Paul spoke to Jews who believed in Christ and his death, But showed they did not trust in this, by attempting to bring back the works of the law, or other works in order to what Paul called "perfect their faith" In other words, they had faith that Christ plus their works were more apt to save them than just faith in Christ alone.
James said anyone who believed does well, Even demons believes. Speaking of those who might believe, but have no faith (your faith is dead, or non existent.
I hope this helps..
Anyway, I am gonna head to church, will look at the rest of the posts when I get back.
how do you get strong faith? it is by learning about God and
knowing him,when you get to know him your faith wiil build up.
your trust in God will be so strong.
''wakeup''.