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EleventhHour said:
So the Good news of Christ Jesus and a salvation that is secure in Him is a cult .... can you please elaborate of give details on how you came to this conclusion:unsure:
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Your comrade has just dismissed the scriptures as being wrong. It cannot get any worse.
 
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PS said:
Your comrade has just dismissed the scriptures as being wrong. It cannot get any worse.
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Never happened ... posting proof texts, out of context verses is really a injustice to the word of God...
 
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EleventhHour said:
We insult your inept doctrine but somehow you cannot bring yourself to face there reality of what you preach.
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There is no point telling you to read the Bible, you have your own theology.

I would like to put you all on ignore again, but you need to be challenged on your errors which are many. So it looks like I'm in for a few sleepless nights.
 
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PS said:
There is no point telling you to read the Bible, you have your own theology.

I would like to put you all on ignore again, but you need to be challenged on your errors which are many. So it looks like I'm in for a few sleepless nights.
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Scripture will stand the test every time... no worries been there (defending OSAS) done that many times.
 
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PS said:
There is no point telling you to read the Bible, you have your own theology.

I would like to put you all on ignore again, but you need to be challenged on your errors which are many. So it looks like I'm in for a few sleepless nights.
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Look in mirror.....your theology and accusations do not even come close to the bible cover....!
 
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PS said:
There is no point telling you to read the Bible, you have your own theology.

I would like to put you all on ignore again, but you need to be challenged on your errors which are many. So it looks like I'm in for a few sleepless nights.
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Why does God`s grace trouble you so much
 
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PS said:
Scripture says OSAS is wrong, and you blithely ignore it!
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Titus 3:5-7 (HCSB)
5 He saved us— not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.

Philippians 1:6 (HCSB)
6 I am sure of this, that He who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.

1 Peter 1:3-5 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5 You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.


YES, AMEN! and AMEN!


Ephesians 2:5 (ESV)
5 even when we were dead in our trespasses,
made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—

Ephesians 2:8-9 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith.
And this is not your own doing;
it is the gift of God,
9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Romans 11:29 (HCSB)
29 since God’s gracious gifts and calling are irrevocable.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Why does God`s grace trouble you so much
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It is the misuse of God's Grace. God is also a Roaring Lion.

Show us scriptures that tell us, regardless of anything we do or say, we are always saved. There are none, but there are lots of warnings given that you need to heed.
 
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You oppose the Word of God.
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No, what I am trying to tell you is your dedication to Jesus is not what saves... dedication means your are working to gain something in return.... salvation

Salvation cannot be earned.. scripture is clear.
 
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VCO said:
Titus 3:5-7 (HCSB)
5 He saved us— not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.

Philippians 1:6 (HCSB)
6 I am sure of this, that He who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.

1 Peter 1:3-5 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5 You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.


YES, AMEN! and AMEN!


Ephesians 2:5 (ESV)
5 even when we were dead in our trespasses,
made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—

Ephesians 2:8-9 (ESV)
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith.
And this is not your own doing;
it is the gift of God,
9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Romans 11:29 (HCSB)
29 since God’s gracious gifts and calling are irrevocable.
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The work hasn't begun in you. You need the experience of Saul.
 
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PS said:
It is the misuse of God's Grace. God is also a Roaring Lion.

Show us scriptures that tell us, regardless of anything we do or say, we are always saved. There are none, but there are lots of warnings given that you need to heed.
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When you start making comments like the misuse of God``s Grace that tells me you, not God, have problem with, or lack of understanding of the justice, grace and mercy of God, who was able to give salvation as free gift completely apart from any merit.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Scripture will stand the test every time... no worries been there (defending OSAS) done that many times.
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Then let us have scripture that tells us we are saved for all time regardless of anything we do or say.
 
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