What is the bible?

[AnandaHya]

VW I understand what you are saying you speak out of spending years upon years studying the BIBLE without the guidance and true relationship of the Holy Spirit and from that stand point your statement makes sense, but I am telling you most do not experience life and the Bible as you speak. Some do but not all, so you message should be more inclusive when you speak to a wide audience such as the internet. You must understand that some do not or have not read the Bible as intensively as you have. the word have not been embedded into their minds or sunk into their hearts.

they have FAITH without KNOWLEDGE and they need to read their Bibles so that the other voices of the world will not deceive and lead them astray.

do you understand what I'm trying to tell you?

All children of God need that intimate knowledge and relationship with the Holy Spirit but they also need to know the Law, LOve and Promise embedded in the words of the Holy Bible.

therefore make sure you know to WHOM your words are address. take the time to learn if they have the KNOWLEDGE and the WISDOM to discern teachings USING the Holy Bible. don't make blanket statements, qualify your word and to whom you address them. Ok?

God loves us so much He has our very hairs numbered, therefore the least we can do is take the time to learn of others before speaking blanket statements that might not even apply to them.

 

[VW]

VW I understand what you are saying you speak out of spending years upon years studying the BIBLE without the guidance and true relationship of the Holy Spirit and from that stand point your statement makes sense, but I am telling you most do not experience life and the Bible as you speak. Some do but not all, so you message should be more inclusive when you speak to a wide audience such as the internet. You must understand that some do not or have not read the Bible as intensively as you have. the word have not been embedded into their minds or sunk into their hearts.

they have FAITH without KNOWLEDGE and they need to read their Bibles so that the other voices of the world will not deceive and lead them astray.

do you understand what I'm trying to tell you?

All children of God need that intimate knowledge and relationship with the Holy Spirit but they also need to know the Law, LOve and Promise embedded in the words of the Holy Bible.

therefore make sure you know to WHOM your words are address. take the time to learn if they have the KNOWLEDGE and the WISDOM to discern teachings USING the Holy Bible. don't make blanket statements, qualify your word and to whom you address them. Ok?

God loves us so much He has our very hairs numbered, therefore the least we can do is take the time to learn of others before speaking blanket statements that might not even apply to them.

I do know these things. I have never, not once in my entire life, discouraged anyone from reading the bible. Never have, never will. I in fact do encourage bible study. But with the understanding that we are not to lean to our own natural understanding of scripture, but always seeking the Spirit and His understanding.

I believe, without qualification of any sort, that any study that is done without the unction of the Holy Spirit is not profitable to the soul. Think about that, please?

Discerning is a spiritual work, and is done by the Spirit. We cannot judge except by the Spirit. If you disagree, then we will stop here, and find other places we can agree, if you still want.

 

[paulnsilas]

Well, I actually don't call myself a prophet, and only respond that way when asked directly.

Anyone who has the gift of prophecy, or has been called as a prophet, will understand when I say that I did not want to make this post. But the voice of the Lord is not insistent, but rather quietly leading one to do as He wishes. I have from the Lord that I am not to answer critical words any more. So, in obedience to Him, hear these words or not.

Christian Chat Rooms & Forums > click

I have only written what I have heard.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word.html#post421268 > click

I was only writing what I heard from the Spirit.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word.html#post421284 > click

The prophet is nothing.
The Lord is everything, and His voice is His, and He speaks as He desires.
One cannot be a prophet until they learn that they are nothing, and that Jesus is everything.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word-2.html#post421412 > click

Well, as to Jonah, he heard the voice of God, which made him a prophet, but he did not have a heart after God's heart. ...

...I always try to remember that faith does not work by belief, nor does it work by works, but faith works by love. We love Him because He first loved us. And if God is love, do we suppose that He will reward faith that is lacking in love?

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word-3.html#post421925 > click

Something about prophets, that is true for every person who loves the Lord and seeks to please Him; all of us will at times be asked to do things we are unwilling to do, things that take us out of our comfort zone, things that stretch our imagination. We have entered into an agreement with the living God of all, to obey His voice. And just as the Sporit spoke to the apostles and the elders,'telling them to go someplace they were not, and speak the words of life to someone they did not know, so He will have servants who will obey His voice again, as we enter into these last days.

...There is more than one kind of faith. We see this in the children of Israel when they were in bondage. They cried to God to deliver them from their slavery. God sent them a prophet. (Any here not believe that Moses was a prophet?)...

Moses, on the other hand, had another kind of faith. I call this kind of faith the faith of the prophet. Moses was just like the rest of the people, until that day at the burning bush. There his faith in God was confronted with a reality that was beyond his comprehension...

....If you cannot see that, then maybe you have the wrong kind of faith

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word-2.html#post421475 > click

(every prophecy has multiple meanings, not all of which the one speaking knows,)

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word-3.html#post421999 > click

When operating in the gift of prophecy, the word is subject to the prophet. In other words, he can speak, or he can withhold. Also, it should be understood that speaking in the gift of prophecy...

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word-5.html#post422124 > click


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Here's what is REALLY going on with these brainwashing programs: the language and tactics are easy to spot. In the end, it doesn't matter who is who, since the original change agents accomplished their mission a long time ago by infiltration and FACILITATION of cell church groups, targeting the vulernable, the proud, and disenfranchised. (this is a military operation btw)

In this way, they replicate themselves: the SOVIETS mastered this idea: it is called GROUPTHINK (peer pressure). It's all around us, everywhere.

I find it strange that you talk to me about authority. I have claimed no authority for myself. I thought that you would have more understanding than this.

I am beginning to worry about you "sister".

See above the threat of excommunication from the (special) group.

The "sister" will now have cognitive dissonance: will the conditioning and denial of reality hold? This must be worked for by any means necessary.

Every cult operates this way.

What is the special group? Here's THE PROGRAM:

When operating in the gift of prophecy, the word is subject to the prophet. In other words, he can speak, or he can withhold. Also, it should be understood that speaking in the gift of prophecy.....

The office of prophet is not the gift of prophecy. This office is charge with and equipped for seeing the truth in the doctrines of the church in his day, and for correction and discipline of those who are charged with teaching the flock. It is a ministry to the church, and in this office, one so called has been in intimate contact with Jesus Christ, and through Him with the Father. And their main purpose is to call the body into this same intimate contact with God. As an office in the body, they call the members to walk in a spiritual life, to worship God in spirit and in truth.

It is a measure of the maturity of the body by how much they are able to discern and judge the words of a prophet, and how they receive the call to repentance. God sends His servants to the workers when they have decided that He is not coming, and they begin to neglect the service that He set them to. Unfortunately, most often, when the workers become neglectful, and God sends His servants to them, they despise the servants and the words of God that they speak, and mistreat them and kill them.

You decide in what fashion God looks upon this kind of worker .

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22461-word-5.html#post422124

 

[VW]

Here's what is REALLY going on with these brainwashing programs: the language and tactics are easy to spot. In the end, it doesn't matter who is who, since the original change agents accomplished their mission a long time ago by infiltration and FACILITATION of cell church groups, targeting the vulernable, the proud, and disenfranchised. (this is a military operation btw)

In this way, they replicate themselves: the SOVIETS mastered this idea: it is called GROUPTHINK (peer pressure). It's all around us, everywhere.



See above the threat of excommunication from the (special) group.

The "sister" will now have cognitive dissonance: will the conditioning and denial of reality hold? This must be worked for by any means necessary.

Every cult operates this way.

What is the special group? Here's THE PROGRAM:

You are funny.

I am glad that I do not have a God who is so devoid of the Spirit as you suppose Him to be.

 

[VW]

The first and really true sign of a cult, and a cult leader, is the desire that others follow him/her. I don't seem to recall ever asking anyone to follow me. Follow Jesus, be filled with the Spirit, be lead by the Spirit, draw near to God, enter the holy place within the veil; yes, but please do not follow me.

God is spirit, and we must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. This reality, the one we live in in this world, while have the appearance of being factual, is all a lie. The true reality is God, and nothing exists without His holding it together, period.

Any, just to add to the things I have been called, now I am a cult leader.

Am I blessed or what?

 

[paulnsilas]

Let's take a closer look at what is really being said here (remember, this is the soviet model)...we can all see that the world is going into a global marxist/fascist state - which will eventually have an elite theocracy AND a king at its head.

The western churches were infiltrated a long time ago. more on this on another thread following.

Anyone who knows anything at all about marxist states, re-education (public shaming and specific frankfort school techniques/public confessions etc) and conditioning (brainwashing), with the establishment of elite ruling groups over the masses being the goal.

Any true Christian knows Christians and Christ are the target in the eschaton. So it's pure naivete to be in denial about the churches themselves being the target. The proof is abundant and available to ANYONE within an hour's research.

When operating in the gift of prophecy, the word is subject to the prophet. In other words, he can speak, or he can withhold. Also, it should be understood that speaking in the gift of prophecy is not a word for word process all the time, although this can happen, especially when it involves the word to an unbeliever, as God reveals the secrets of their heart before all, and they fall down before God.

The office of prophet is not the gift of prophecy.

This office is charge with and equipped for seeing the truth in the doctrines of the church in his day, and for correction and discipline of those who are charged with teaching the flock.
It is a ministry to the church, and in this office, one so called has been in intimate contact with Jesus Christ, and through Him with the Father.

And their main purpose is to call the body into this same intimate contact with God. As an office in the body, they call the members to walk in a spiritual life, to worship God in spirit and in truth.

It is a measure of the maturity of the body by how much they are able to discern and judge the words of a prophet, and how they receive the call to repentance.

God sends His servants to the workers when they have decided that He is not coming, and they begin to neglect the service that He set them to.

[THIS PROPHET HAS CLAIMED THE CHURCHES ARE USELESS AND FILTHY AND THAT GOD DESPISES THEM AND THEIR "WORK"....SO WHAT SERVICE IT IS THE "WORKERS" ARE TO BE DOING?]

Unfortunately, most often, when the workers become neglectful, and God sends His servants to them, [ONLY THE SPECIAL GROUP ARE GOD'S SERVANTS - THE REST ARE WORKERS] they despise the servants and the words of God that they speak, and mistreat them and kill them.

You decide in what fashion God looks upon this kind of worker.

This whole load of rubbish is based on a perversion of the parables of the labourers in the vineyard: which is talking about APOSTATE ISRAEL!

Again, only a born again believer who knows who they are IN CHRIST can discern that these "prophets" are using israel's prophets and prophecies and blasting Christ's Church with them. The hidden plan has been to blur The Mosaic Coveant into the New Covenant, to confuse Christians about who Israel is, who they are, and what their role is.

THIS IS ONE OF THE TACTICS AND THE END GAME OF THE THIRD WAVE, WHICH IS ENTERING THE FOURTH AND FINAL WAVE.....This last wave includes Hebrew Roots, Judaism and Catholic Charismatica

 

[paulnsilas]

I wonder at this worry about me, and then again not worried, and now worried again. Does not the Spirit tell you if I am His? I know that you are one of His.

There's that spiritual abuse again.
The threat...are you ONE OF US, or aren't you?

Everyone can be wrong, even a christian. [the very next paragraph says this prophet however, IS NOT WRONG, because He is special] Sometimes very wrong. Only God is never wrong.

Only through the Spirit, by His leading and His words, can we know the truth. This fact is the first step into the life of service of a prophet, or an apostle. If one is called to these offices, they will learn this truth, or they will miss the mark.

Christ's Apostles did NOT miss the mark......EXCEPT JUDAS OF COURSE.

 

[AnandaHya]

???? I think I'll go read my Bible now and worship Jesus my Lord and Savior whom tells me to walk in His ways and fear nothing for He did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind (2 Timothy 1: 7)



Isaiah 8:11-13 (New King James Version)

Fear God, Heed His Word


11 For the LORD spoke thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:
12 “ Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
13 The LORD of hosts, Him you shall hallow;
Let Him be your fear,
And let Him be your dread.

 

[VW]

There's that spiritual abuse again.
The threat...are you ONE OF US, or aren't you?



Christ's Apostles did NOT miss the mark......EXCEPT JUDAS OF COURSE.

Judas never was an apostle. He was dead before the Holy Spirit was given.

 

[paulnsilas]

Just as reading the bible will not gain intimate knowledge of who God is, neither will reading what I post gain you understanding of who I am.

TRANSLATION : To gain "intimate" knowledge of who God is, don't trust God's Divinely Inspired Word. Rather, trust VW ,... your "go-to" guy....your new intermediary.


I was shown the the truth of how devoid a biblical based faith is, how it does not and cannot engender love in a person's life. Men want to know scripture, become experts in scripture, be recognized as bible scholars. I was that way once. I did not know God, even though I believed with all of my might that I did. When I met Him, I knew that God is so much more.

TRANSLATION : Trust in VW with all your heart and all your soul ....and lean not unto God's Divinely Inspired Word. Men want to know scripture, become experts in scripture, be recognized as bible scholars. He was once that way...... but now he's so much more. He's now God's "prophet".....God's voice. He will show us all the REAL way to true salvation.... IF we are "open to the spirit". Forget about that "righteousness through faith and not of works" stuff. God was only kidding when He said that.


Are you perfect in all that you know and say? Not any more than I am.

TRANSLATION : If you call me a prophet, I'll call you one too.


Everyone can be wrong, even a christian. Sometimes very wrong. Only God is never wrong. Only through the Spirit, by His leading and His words, can we know the truth. This fact is the first step into the life of service of a prophet, or an apostle. If one is called to these offices, they will learn this truth, or they will miss the mark.


What Words ? Surely not the Word (Divinely Inspired Scripture) that will not gain us intimate knowledge of who God is (like you said in your first paragraph) ? You must be referring to the words that God speaks directly to you.

He who has ears to hear,...let him hear.

Are you perfect in all that you know and say? Not any more than I am.

TRANSLATION : If you call me a prophet, I'll call you one too.

EXACTLY! And the agents who started all this did it just over a generation ago: CONNECT THE DOTS...IT HAS A purpose. A Common Purpose....

......

Change Agent training for the purpose of global church "transformation" has been going on in evangelical circles for at least three decades now. Ken Blanchard, a widely popular pseudo-evangelical business guru who has trained many pastors, has been directly connected with the National Training Labs [http://tinyurl.com/byhvf]. For more information on Ken Blanchard and his nefarious activities, see postings at Christian Research Service at www.christianresearchservice.com. Blanchard's close associate, Warren Bennis, has also been associated with the National Training Labs, as has Willis Harman, a leading Theosophist [both cited in The Age of Heretics: Heroes, Outlaws, and the Forerunners of Corporate Change by Art Kleiner]. Harman's activities with evangelical leaders was the topic of many Herescope posts this past fall.

All three of these New Age leaders have strong interconnections with the evangelical community, particularly through their workshops and seminars and books that bring the corporate business model into the church through the mechanism of leadership training.
http://herescope.blogspot.com/2006/01/change-agents-for-church.html


....The philosophy behind Common Purpose is a strange mixture of Capitalism and Communism called Communitarianism.

Communitarianism – which is difficult to pin down – is a type of Neo-Communism that owes some of its ideas to Gramsci and the Fabians. When Tony B Liar talked about the ‘Third Way’, he meant Communitarianism.

Communitarianism is a “Big Brother knows best” type of philosophy.

Barack Obama is a Fabian Communitarian, although you will not have heard him use the term during his election campaign. Americans will get a shock when the truth of his hidden agenda becomes known and they find out his real intentions. Bear in mind that Obama is simply a front-man for the New World Order Communitarians.
http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2009/10/common-purpose-philosophy-in-london.html


Common Purpose - Stop Common Purpose - Communitarian - NWO Agenda 21

 

[VW]

Are you perfect in all that you know and say? Not any more than I am.

TRANSLATION : If you call me a prophet, I'll call you one too.

EXACTLY! And the agents who started all this did it just over a generation ago: CONNECT THE DOTS...IT HAS A purpose. A Common Purpose....

......

Change Agent training for the purpose of global church "transformation" has been going on in evangelical circles for at least three decades now. Ken Blanchard, a widely popular pseudo-evangelical business guru who has trained many pastors, has been directly connected with the National Training Labs [http://tinyurl.com/byhvf]. For more information on Ken Blanchard and his nefarious activities, see postings at Christian Research Service at www.christianresearchservice.com. Blanchard's close associate, Warren Bennis, has also been associated with the National Training Labs, as has Willis Harman, a leading Theosophist [both cited in The Age of Heretics: Heroes, Outlaws, and the Forerunners of Corporate Change by Art Kleiner]. Harman's activities with evangelical leaders was the topic of many Herescope posts this past fall.

All three of these New Age leaders have strong interconnections with the evangelical community, particularly through their workshops and seminars and books that bring the corporate business model into the church through the mechanism of leadership training.
http://herescope.blogspot.com/2006/01/change-agents-for-church.html


....The philosophy behind Common Purpose is a strange mixture of Capitalism and Communism called Communitarianism.

Communitarianism – which is difficult to pin down – is a type of Neo-Communism that owes some of its ideas to Gramsci and the Fabians. When Tony B Liar talked about the ‘Third Way’, he meant Communitarianism.

Communitarianism is a “Big Brother knows best” type of philosophy.

Barack Obama is a Fabian Communitarian, although you will not have heard him use the term during his election campaign. Americans will get a shock when the truth of his hidden agenda becomes known and they find out his real intentions. Bear in mind that Obama is simply a front-man for the New World Order Communitarians.
http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2009/10/common-purpose-philosophy-in-london.html


Common Purpose - Stop Common Purpose - Communitarian - NWO Agenda 21

I am sad that you will gain your reward.

Notice, now I am not only a cult leader, but also a front man for the antichrist.

Wonder where it will end?

 

[paulnsilas]

if you claim the title of prophet, you can not "miss the mark" if you say your words are from God. you can not let a stray thought or word CONDEMN anyone unjustly.

Correct.

God has not said anything about you being a prophet or not, but He has told me the title is tainted and does not need to be used, because the darkness has claimed the word and placed corrupt images in the minds of believers when they hear it spoken.

The title prophet is NOT TAINTED.
God's prophets throughout time were ordained by Him, and have accomplished the work he gave them to do.

Sinful men who pretend to be prophets are the blight. not the word prophet.

 

[paulnsilas]

You are funny.

I am glad that I do not have a God who is so devoid of the Spirit as you suppose Him to be.

Funny?
This is life and death.

I do not know your god who threatens Christians who love His word.

one who would change his plan having already laid a foundation of Christ, apostles and prophets.

I know my Shepherd's Voice.

 

[VW]

Funny?
This is life and death.

I do not know your god who threatens Christians who love His word.

one who would change his plan having already laid a foundation of Christ, apostles and prophets.

I know my Shepherd's Voice.

You say that you know His voice, but do you hear His voice?

Simple question.

Another simple question for you. When was the last time you entered into the holy place by the blood of Jesus? To see God's judgment of you?

 

[journey41]

There is an erroneous belief that every word of God is contained in the bible. What, you do not believe this? Then how can the reasoning which says that there cannot be prophecy because the bible is finished hold up under scrutiny? Every belief we have has an end result, every single one. If we believe that the bible is the final, finished and complete revelation of God, then we also believe that it contains all of the knowledge of God, along with every word He has spoken. For the belief says that there is no prophecy, because the bible is finished.

And yet, even in scripture we see that if all the words of Jesus, and all of His deeds, were written down, that there would not be enough room in the whole world to contain them. Do you see the problem? Each belief we have must be examined in the light of God's wisdom to see the end of that belief.

I once believed that I was saved because Jesus had died and rose again on my behalf. And while it is true that He did give Himself for me, that alone did not save me. For while I believed in His forgiveness, I did not draw near to Him with a sincere heart, to see sand know Him. I did just as the children of Israel did, and hardened my heart towards God, claiming His salvation while holding myself out of His light. And who could deliver me from my own lies? God did. It was not pretty.

If all that we know of God is what we read, and if all that we have of Him is knowledge gained by study and teaching; then we do not know God. And if we do not know God, we have believed in vain, and the sacrifice that Jesus made in order to purchase us from slavery has done us no good.

No, all knowledge of God is not in the bible. And all of His words are not contained therein. For God has not lost His mouth, and He has not stopped talking. We have stopped listening. And just as God judged those who hardened their hearts towards His voice, so He will judge us for the same thing, because He does not change, ever; else He is not God.

[/QUOTE]Hi VW, and God bless you for the love you have in Christ. I must just say this that God has given us all the information he wants us to know. Anything else is awaiting us with our reward.

He has given us so much and we cannot add to it. The message is simple and clear. We have to have faith and believe that he sent his son for the redemption of sins. We have everything we need to know. We know the way to salvation. His written word has covered everything he wants us to know. We know that path and the route to take. His word is used for doctrine, for reprove, for edification. His word is the source. His spirit that lives in us may reveal or guide in our personal life, but his word is complete in what he has given us. We have all the prophesies, we have history, we have his will.

Why does man have to complicate it? We are full already. The lost ones have to go to his Word to find truth. They have to earn it & work for it now like the rest of us. They have to seek.

We should never commend ourselves, but exalt the holy Father and our Lord Jesus Christ and endorse his precious words & will and not our own.
Take care. I know you love Christ.

 

[paulnsilas]

You say that you know His voice, but do you hear His voice?

Simple question.

AUDIBLY? no. do you? you may need medication.

I do not practice mysticism, Lectio Divina, "guidance" by divination of the Scriptures, journalling or any of the other "ways" to HEAR GOD'S VOICE.

I know My Shepherd's Voice because He has spoken, and i hear Him everytime i read His Word, and commune with Him in spirit.

But you don't believe any of us. We're loathsome, filthy and our prayers are not heard.

Another simple question for you. When was the last time you entered into the holy place by the blood of Jesus? To see God's judgment of you?

this is getting just plain CREEPY.

The Holy Place?
The veil was rent at Calvary VW: we can all enter bodly to the throne of Grace.

My judgment?

NOT GUILTY!

You, however have some bizarre catholic belief that you must continue crawling on your knees begging to be approved or disapproved....and judged OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

So you're a sinner....AND? Or....are you?

 

[paulnsilas]

I am sad that you will gain your reward.

Notice, now I am not only a cult leader, but also a front man for the antichrist.

Wonder where it will end?

I never said you were a LEADER.
It doesn't make any difference. deceiving and being deceived.

Front man for the antichrist? channeling a spirit and calling it jesus is antichrist..

Your beliefs and theology (if it can be called that) are heretical and an affront to God.

but you don't believe that: you are His chosen vessel. His servant.

And we dumb workers just can't seem to hear, we're SO DULL.

 

[AnandaHya]

Correct.



The title prophet is NOT TAINTED.
God's prophets throughout time were ordained by Him, and have accomplished the work he gave them to do.

Sinful men who pretend to be prophets are the blight. not the word prophet.

Paulnsilas I am confused to what YOU truly believe. one minute you told me spiritual warfare was occult then when others on the site defined it for you, it seemed you changed your mind on the issue. Now are you saying that God sent prophets throughout time and not just at the foundation of the church as you stated earlier to me?

do you now say that spiritual warfare is Bible based and prophets are ordained by God and still active? (NOTE: I know you think VW is a false prophet but do you believe in the need for prophecy today or not?)

Just curious about how the Reform church teaches on the doctrine of spiritual gifts and spreading of Christs message to the world.

 

[VW]

Correct.



The title prophet is NOT TAINTED.
God's prophets throughout time were ordained by Him, and have accomplished the work he gave them to do.

Sinful men who pretend to be prophets are the blight. not the word prophet.

You taint the title christian.

But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; and avoid such men as these. For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. And just as James and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected as regards the faith. But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, as also that of those two came to be.

What was the folly of James and Jambres, that became obvious to all?

 

[VW]

AUDIBLY? no. do you? you may need medication.

I do not practice mysticism, Lectio Divina, "guidance" by divination of the Scriptures, journalling or any of the other "ways" to HEAR GOD'S VOICE.

I know My Shepherd's Voice because He has spoken, and i hear Him everytime i read His Word, and commune with Him in spirit.

But you don't believe any of us. We're loathsome, filthy and our prayers are not heard.



this is getting just plain CREEPY.

The Holy Place?
The veil was rent at Calvary VW: we can all enter bodly to the throne of Grace.

My judgment?

NOT GUILTY!

You, however have some bizarre catholic belief that you must continue crawling on your knees begging to be approved or disapproved....and judged OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

So you're a sinner....AND? Or....are you?

The veil was rent, true, but have you gone in?

You know, I have never called any one loathsome. Just who are you listening to?