Once again
1.) Do you believe Matthew 24:15 was fulfilled in 70AD Daniels Abomination?
2.) Do you believe Matthew 24:21 was fulfilled in 70AD?
No. The ONLY part of the Olivet Discourse
relating to the 70ad events, is found in Luke 21:
12-24.
Matthew 24 is "far-future" from when it was written.
Preterism is incorrect, because it disregards the "chronology" issues within the Olivet Discourse.
Consider the following:
The
"BoBPs" ['the beginning of birth pangs'] ^
are the same identical things in all 3 chpts (
Matt24:4-8, Mk13:5-8, AND Lk21:8-11 [<--not named as such in this last reference, only DESCRIBED there, being the same]--THIS IS KEY [that all 3 references are referring to the SAME events]);
1)
--
one "SEE-then-FLEE" happens IN the events surrounding 70ad,
"BEFORE" all the BoBPs (per Lk21:
12<---KEY VERSE showing a "CHRONOLOGY")--Those disagreeing MUST explain "how" the events surrounding 70ad [vv.12-24] DO NOT take place
BEFORE "the beginning of birth pangs," which this passage says
*DO* TAKE PLACE
*BEFORE* the beginning of birth pangs (which BoBPs were just spelled out in Lk12:
8-11... [cf Mk13:5-8/Mt24:4-8] just before
v.12 says, "BUT
BEFORE ALL THESE...");
--
the other "SEE-then-FLEE" FOLLOWS the BoBPs (Matt24/Mk13), and occurs at the "AOD" point in time, which passage (Jesus said) RELATES to the Dan12:11 verse (because of the SINGULAR "abominaTION" Daniel spoke of, THERE), which chpt (Dn12) says the "time-period" referred to in that entire CONTEXT *ENDS* with Daniel [after having died / rest in death] being resurrected ['to stand again on the earth'] "AT THE
END OF THE DAYS [at the END of the specific days referred to IN THAT CONTEXT--which IS *far-future* from Jesus' first advent and *far-future* to the 70ad events even]"
2)
--the 70ad events result in their [that is, Israel]
"be led away captive into all the nations" per Lk21:24b (
and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles,
UNTIL" (even to end of the 42-mo period referred to in Rev11:2--
which is a part of the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" time-period that Rev1:
1/4:
1/1:
19c refers to, in contrast with "the things WHICH ARE" (i.e. the NOW) which are NOT a part of the "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" [1:1] time-period]);
--whereas the Matthew 24 (*far-future*) passage shows its "end" to be their being gathered together ['ONE by ONE'] by angels ['He shall SEND' to do so] to worship the Lord in the holy mount
AT JERUSALEM, when you
compare Matt24:29-31 with its parallel Isa27:12-13 (@ "the
GREAT trumpet" [note:
not at "our Rapture" event, which is a distinct trumpet and time-slot and is not the one being spoken of in these passages])
And note:
verse 32 of Lk21, where it says, "
TILL ALL be fulfilled,"
necessarily INCLUDES that which
v.24 had just said, which was, "and [they] shall be led away captive into all the nations" [and further on in the verse... uses the word "UNTIL"]...
...which is
entirely distinct from their being "gathered [ONE by ONE]" TO there! [not to mention,
entirely distinct from "our Rapture" event, wherein we are said to be caught up/away together "AS ONE"]
... the
SEQUENCE is distinct in each of these Olivet Discourse sections, thus proving that the "SEE-then-FLEEs" are wholly distinct events at wholly distinct time frames (involving distinct circumstances [
though parts SOUND SIMILAR]; and
with wholly distinct ends/outcomes)...