Catholicism vs Protestantism

[Dan_473]

How do you know the athenians god is the god who make the world?

the short answer is that it's how English is used.

"Now I am going to tell you about this ‘unknown god.’

24 “He is the God who made the world."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=NIRV

"he" up above can really only refer to "this ‘unknown god’.

two things further:
if you wish to learn more about pronouns and antecedents, I think this is a good website
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/pronouns-and-antecedents

now this next part I want to say as gently as possible, but we also want to be honest, yes?

the translation quoted above, the NIRV, is intended for people with very basic English reading ability.
if you're having trouble following what it says, is it really realistic to think that you can understand the CCC or the lumen gentium?

if you would like to try a different translation that you think makes it clearer, here's a whole bunch at once!
https://www.biblehub.com/acts/17-23.htm

 

[Peterlag]

I asked you
Can you show me where the Bible divides history into dispensations? or if you prefer "administrations".
You haven't done that. You have just given me your opinion (or Ethelbert William Bullinge's opinion) as to this division.

And if you are going to quote from the Bible can you please give a reference. Thank you.

Incidentally Romans never uses the word administration or dispensation so why quote from it?

I cannot find a place in the bible that says we need lungs to breath. But that does not mean it's not true.

 

[Dan_473]

Your answer is yes. It mean you believe there will be satanic one world religion.

actually, no.
the question that I was answering was:
would an evil, satanic one world religion would be satanic.

the answer to that is yes.

for the question:
will there be a one world government?

again I say, yes, one centered around God.

for the question:
will there be an evil, satanic One World Government?

my answer is that I don't know.

 

[Dan_473]

I agree, some Protestant involve, but my question is, is that biblical?
To me it doesn't matter even if Baptist involve, my standard is bible.

of course it's not biblical to pray to another God.

in one of the articles that you posted, I believe the pope made it clear that he was praying only to the Christian God.

is it biblical to be around non-christians and all pray at the same time?
sounds okay to me.

if that meeting results in people who would otherwise be shooting at each other not shooting,
then it sounds very biblical!

 

[jaybo]

I cannot find a place in the bible that says we need lungs to breath. But that does not mean it's not true.

That is entirely off topic. The Bible doesn't include every single fact in the entire universe. The Bible doesn't mention the computer you're typing on. Does that mean it (or you) doesn't exist?

 

[Dan_473]

Why ? If you think it is biblical why you not favor?

the one we've been talking about, which I think resulted in a temporary ceasefire, I am in favor of.

but in general, those whose only purpose is to pretend that we all believe mostly the same things, I'm not in favor of.
I don't see the point to them.

but back to the positive side of things,
I know of a town that has a community food Bank operated by the local churches.
one church is Unitarian, the rest are trinitarian.
should people from the Unitarian Church not be allowed to participate?
that wouldn't sound right to me.

 

[Dan_473]

As long as we abide in Him, we win

God lives in anyone who agrees that Jesus is the Son of God. This kind of person remains joined to God. 16 So we know that God loves us. We depend on it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+4&version=NIRV

 

[Jackson123]

I wasn't referring to a particular gathering. I was referring to the Jewish people.

But it seems from your reply that Jews in general that don't believe God is trinity don't worship a false God, but muslims that don't believe God is trinity do worship a false God. That is illogical.

To me Jews and Muslim worship false god

 

[Jackson123]

the one we've been talking about, which I think resulted in a temporary ceasefire, I am in favor of.

but in general, those whose only purpose is to pretend that we all believe mostly the same things, I'm not in favor of.
I don't see the point to them.

but back to the positive side of things,
I know of a town that has a community food Bank operated by the local churches.
one church is Unitarian, the rest are trinitarian.
should people from the Unitarian Church not be allowed to participate?
that wouldn't sound right to me.

Participate in food bank, as a doctor etc is ok
Participate in worship, kind of not ok.
Say Muslim and Christian worship together, worship who, we have different god.

 

[Jackson123]

the short answer is that it's how English is used.

"Now I am going to tell you about this ‘unknown god.’

24 “He is the God who made the world."
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17&version=NIRV

"he" up above can really only refer to "this ‘unknown god’.

two things further:
if you wish to learn more about pronouns and antecedents, I think this is a good website
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/pronouns-and-antecedents

now this next part I want to say as gently as possible, but we also want to be honest, yes?

the translation quoted above, the NIRV, is intended for people with very basic English reading ability.
if you're having trouble following what it says, is it really realistic to think that you can understand the CCC or the lumen gentium?

if you would like to try a different translation that you think makes it clearer, here's a whole bunch at once!
https://www.biblehub.com/acts/17-23.htm

Athenians worship unknown God, Muslim worship Allah that

2. Declaring that God begets not, and nor is He begotten is such an evident principle for the Divine Being that it is mentioned here to refute all creeds that attribute sons or daughters to God. It primarily and categorically refutes the pagans' attribution to Him of the angels as daughters and the Christians' seeing Him as the Father of Jesus, upon him be peace, or their attributing Jesus, upon him be peace, to Him as a son.

 

[Peterlag]

That is entirely off topic. The Bible doesn't include every single fact in the entire universe. The Bible doesn't mention the computer you're typing on. Does that mean it (or you) doesn't exist?

Then don't ask me to read you where it says all scripture is not written to everyone. If I write you a letter. That does not mean it's addressed to my brother. I already would tell you in the beginning who it's addressed to. Paul writes in Corinthians Unto the church of God. That does not mean it's addressed to the Jews, but to the church of God.

 

[Jackson123]

of course it's not biblical to pray to another God.

in one of the articles that you posted, I believe the pope made it clear that he was praying only to the Christian God.

is it biblical to be around non-christians and all pray at the same time?
sounds okay to me.

if that meeting results in people who would otherwise be shooting at each other not shooting,
then it sounds very biblical!

Seem to me pope invite them to pray to their god together with him
Their god is Satan, so pope invite them to pray to Satan. And pope appreciate how they pray to Satan

Here is the photo of that moment, from May 14, 1999:

Some say the Pope was merely bowing toward the book, not kissing it.
From this photo, it is hard to tell, and I myself do not know the truth of the matter.

Is pope kiss Quran? Why, to show that he respect this satanic book?

 

[Bede]

To me Jews and Muslim worship false god

Then according to you the God who revealed himself to Moses at Sinai was a false God.
According to you the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was a false God,

Jesus said "“You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels[b] in heaven. And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” (Mt 22:29-32)
According to you Jesus was referring to a false God.

 

[Bede]

I cannot find a place in the bible that says we need lungs to breath. But that does not mean it's not true.

I agree that not everything about the universe is in the Bible.
However what you are suggesting is that for almost 1800 years everyone has misinterpreted scriptures until John Nelson Darby came along. That doesn't work. It is fantasy, and a modern one at that.

What you are suggesting about "administrations" is fundamental to our understanding of the history of salvation and our current relationship with God, and you have no evidence for it.

The reality is, and it is biblical, is that God has dealt with mankind through a series of Covenants - with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus Christ. They are the main ones though there are others.

 

[garee]

Then don't ask me to read you where it says all scripture is not written to everyone. If I write you a letter. That does not mean it's addressed to my brother. I already would tell you in the beginning who it's addressed to. Paul writes in Corinthians Unto the church of God. That does not mean it's addressed to the Jews, but to the church of God.

You are creating a division that simply is not there. God's truth applies to everyone.

You are not in the place of God .Its not if you write a letter.

 

[Dan_473]

Participate in food bank, as a doctor etc is ok
Participate in worship, kind of not ok.
Say Muslim and Christian worship together, worship who, we have different god.

I hear what you're saying, and again I mean this very gently,
imo, you don't accept what Paul says to the Athenians.

when you come to a place where you can accept it,
then I think what Vatican II said about Muslims will make more sense to you.

 

[Kemorean]

1. Catholic and protestan different in foundation. Protestant base oN the bible alone, catholic base oN tradition and magister for Example

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The Vatican is taking a modern approach to one of its oldest traditions, by offering indulgences to Twitter followers of the Pontifex's social media account.

Aware that some Catholics may not be able afford to travel to Brazil, where World Youth Day is being held from July 23-28, and perhaps also in an effort to modernize himself, Pope Francis is making this first-time offer to the faithful who follow the events in Rio de Janeiro online.

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This believe is not in the bible.

2. Do both lead to salvation?

No, only Jesus teaching lead to salvation not man teaching

3. Jesus say love your enemy. So we have to love catholic. And what is love? Love mean to tell them the truth, tell them that Mary not able to hear billions people pray to her, only God is omnipresent, not Mary or st peter, they are human

So figures like Mother Teresa, St Nicholas, St Patrick, St Valentine, etc are in Hell?

 

[Dan_473]

Athenians worship unknown God, Muslim worship Allah that

2. Declaring that God begets not, and nor is He begotten is such an evident principle for the Divine Being that it is mentioned here to refute all creeds that attribute sons or daughters to God. It primarily and categorically refutes the pagans' attribution to Him of the angels as daughters and the Christians' seeing Him as the Father of Jesus, upon him be peace, or their attributing Jesus, upon him be peace, to Him as a son.

do you agree, then, that the Athenians were worshipping the true God along with other gods?

 

[garee]

Then don't ask me to read you where it says all scripture is not written to everyone. If I write you a letter. That does not mean it's addressed to my brother. I already would tell you in the beginning who it's addressed to. Paul writes in Corinthians Unto the church of God. That does not mean it's addressed to the Jews, but to the church of God.

The bottom line with Catholics false gospel is they have another authority other than all things written in the law and the prophets

.And as always sola scriptura , makes what they must call Devine Sacred law of the the fathers without effect. No person can serve two Masters as one law. Sacred Blasphemy. "Sacred Tradition"

Makes me wonder why they even mention Scripture and last in order at that.

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 80

"The Catholics Bible." . .#80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal." Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".

Ask how they come together. Answer it a divine mystery of the fathers a law of men .

 

[Kemorean]

You are creating a division that simply is not there. God's truth applies to everyone.

You are not in the place of God .Its not if you write a letter.

Amen! I think that Satan's greatest victory has been to create division between Protestant and Catholic Christians. And I believe that Jesus foresaw our divisions when He prayed.. "Father that they may ONE, as you and I are ONE, so that the world may believe that you have sent the Son." Question: Does the world believe that the Father has sent the Son?