When are we saved ?
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In Him is not referring to us. It is referring to the basis and source of the blessings
This is not a Mormon site is it? We do not believe that we were in Christ before the world began do we?
Because the text says we were chosen in Him before the world began. You cannot sever “ before the world began” from the rest of the verse, though you’re trying really hard
Ephesians 1 is not teaching our pre existence, so you can drop that argument now
This is not a Mormon site is it? We do not believe that we were in Christ before the world began do we?
Because the text says we were chosen in Him before the world began. You cannot sever “ before the world began” from the rest of the verse, though you’re trying really hard
Ephesians 1 is not teaching our pre existence, so you can drop that argument now
“Before the foundation of the world,” God decreed that He would choose no one in this age to become “holy and without blame” “in Christ.” Jesus Christ was to be the medium through which all blessings would be dispensed (vs. 10), and we can only be “accepted in the beloved” (vs. 6). You were not “in the beloved”
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Thanks and wirh respect, but I see it differently in this way as said that the phrase "from the foundation of the world" may differs from "before the foundation of the world." So when it comes to salvation, we are saved "from the foundation of the world" as in time (not eternity"), similarly our name is written in the Lamb's book of life (Rev. 13:8; Rev. 17:8). Ephesians talks about spiritual blessings after we are already saved in time not in eternity. The fact that we are CHOSEN IN HIM before the foundation of the world does not mean that any sinner existed or was saved before the foundation of the world. It merely means that God laid down the basis for being chosen, i.e., IN HIM, IN CHRIST. and no one is IN CHRIST BEFORE they are saved.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain FROM the foundation of the world.
Rev 17:8 . . . they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life FROM the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain FROM the foundation of the world.
Rev 17:8 . . . they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life FROM the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
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Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he savED us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 
Yes...at His judgement.
What is your point?
Remember what ....ed...means.
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