Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

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Nehemiah6

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How do you wear out the saints without the beast being in the papacy?
The Antichrist will be in constant warfare with the saints, and that is how he will wear out the saints. But neither the pope nor the papacy qualify, since this man rules over the whole world for 3 1/2 years. The papacy rules over just the Catholics, and not very effectively either. Also the papacy has been around for about 1600 years, which automatically disqualifies it.
 

Ahwatukee

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Do you think I don't believe in Jesus? Ridiculous. I'm calling a spade ..a spade. The little horn on the first beast is the papacy.
Curious how Jews hold the Sabbath and are center stage at the end ..wonder why.
Actually, the woman who rides the beast is Roman Catholicism. i.e. Babylon the Great. Scripture supports this with the following clues:

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth - Rev.17:18

At the time that John was receiving this information from the angel, the city that ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome.

* The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

So, the woman is a city and she sits on seven hills. Rome was literally built on and is famous for her seven hills.

* The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls.

Purple and scarlet are the exact colors worn by the bishops and cardinals:



Glittering with gold

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Roman Catholicism is figuratively called Mystery, Babylon the Great, because most of her rituals and practices originated from the religions of Babylon. You ever notice the Mitre hat that the pope wears closely represents the fish hat worn by the priests of Dagon the fish god? The split at top is the fishes mouth and there is even an eye. I would also mention the 82ft pagan obelisk from Hieropolis Eqypt that sits out in St. Peter's square.

The woman (Roman Catholicism) will ride the beast, meaning that she will use his authority and power to reestablish her religious authority, so that inhabitants of the earth will come under the authority of the pope and Roman Catholicism and that by force if necessary, just the way it was before 1798, except worse.

I believe that the false prophet will be none other than one of the future popes, who will be allowed to perform those miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast/antichrist and that for the purpose of giving credibility to his claim of being god.
 

Dino246

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How do you wear out the saints without the beast being in the papacy?
It's helpful to use the "REPLY" button at the lower right of the post to which you are responding. That way, everyone knows who you are addressing. Otherwise, it looks like you're having a conversation with yourself.
 

ewq1938

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I said "involve", the law will say you can't buy or sell on the day. The Sabbath keepers will be vilified. I'll die before bowing to the law.
What scripture says people can't buy or sell without the mark on a Saturday? In Revelation 13 where the mark is first mentioned, there is nothing at all about Saturdays or Sundays or when it's ok to worship etc. Literally nothing. The mark is only something which gives people the right to be able to buy or sell things.
 
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pottersclay

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Seeing the other posts from siad op has peeked my discerning.
Anyone else?
 
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Maybe I should just state my intentions. This reality is about to end, look for ways to wake the sleeping because time is up.
 

TMS

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Maybe I should just state my intentions. This reality is about to end, look for ways to wake the sleeping because time is up.
Yes... as time goes on we will see who is being attacked as fundamentalists and as extremists.
If keeping the forth commandment (sabbath) causes people to be persecuted, and causes them to choose between buying and selling or being obedient, would that be enough to convince that it is the mark of the beast? (sometimes all the signs and wonders will not convince people that are not willing to see)

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

The conclusion of the whole matter and our whole duty is to Fear God, and keep his commandments.
God didn't change when He came as Jesus. The God of the old testament is the same today.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.



 

CS1

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Vicarius Filii Dei ..the substitution of the Son of God? The nerve of the papacy to give this title to the pope.

They used their authority to change God's Holy Day to the first day of the week? Who thought this was a good idea?

Saturday is God's Devine signature of Creation. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible we can modify the Ten Commandments.

Isaiah 58:13
If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the LORD honorable, and shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, B3 14 then you shall delight yourself in the LORD;

The papacy that started in Rome did not have Peter sitting in the seat. Anyone can claim Peter as the first of their own organization. It's just another trick.

The little horn on the first beast ends up being the papacy.





I don't know if you know this but the word "Saturday" is not biblical it is pagan. it is the name of a Roman god. The church has chosen the first day of the week because that is when Jesus rose from the dead " on the First day of the week.
 

CS1

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Daniel 7:25 and he shall speak great words against the most high, and shall wear out the saints of the most high and think to CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS.

I'm not hearing a good reason from the Pope to have anything to do with Sunday.
stop listening to the Pope LOL
 
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Christians were not permitted in the synagogue very early on. They were excluded from participation in the Jewish Sabbath.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Daniel 7:25 and he shall speak great words against the most high, and shall wear out the saints of the most high and think to CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS.

I'm not hearing a good reason from the Pope to have anything to do with Sunday.
and about the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn that came up and before which three of them fell, the horn that had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and that seemed greater than its companions. As I looked, this horn made war with the saints and prevailed over them, until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints possessed the kingdom.
Daniel 7:20‭-‬22 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/dan.7.20-22.ESV
 

Nehemiah6

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I don't know if you know this but the word "Saturday" is not biblical it is pagan. it is the name of a Roman god.
And Saturn was far more evil than Sol. So using that criterion, Saturdays are not as good as Sundays.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Actually, the woman who rides the beast is Roman Catholicism. i.e. Babylon the Great. Scripture supports this with the following clues:

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth - Rev.17:18

At the time that John was receiving this information from the angel, the city that ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome.

* The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

So, the woman is a city and she sits on seven hills. Rome was literally built on and is famous for her seven hills.

* The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls.

Purple and scarlet are the exact colors worn by the bishops and cardinals:



Glittering with gold

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Roman Catholicism is figuratively called Mystery, Babylon the Great, because most of her rituals and practices originated from the religions of Babylon. You ever notice the Mitre hat that the pope wears closely represents the fish hat worn by the priests of Dagon the fish god? The split at top is the fishes mouth and there is even an eye. I would also mention the 82ft pagan obelisk from Hieropolis Eqypt that sits out in St. Peter's square.

The woman (Roman Catholicism) will ride the beast, meaning that she will use his authority and power to reestablish her religious authority, so that inhabitants of the earth will come under the authority of the pope and Roman Catholicism and that by force if necessary, just the way it was before 1798, except worse.

I believe that the false prophet will be none other than one of the future popes, who will be allowed to perform those miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast/antichrist and that for the purpose of giving credibility to his claim of being god.
If you believe this, why would you be Roman Catholic?
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Why would you think that I was Roman Catholic?

I'm a believer and follower of Christ. I claim no denomination.
My mistake. I guess I had you mixed up with someone else. Sorry.
 

Ahwatukee

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Actually, the woman who rides the beast is Roman Catholicism. i.e. Babylon the Great. Scripture supports this with the following clues:

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth - Rev.17:18

At the time that John was receiving this information from the angel, the city that ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome.

* The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

So, the woman is a city and she sits on seven hills. Rome was literally built on and is famous for her seven hills.

* The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls.

Purple and scarlet are the exact colors worn by the bishops and cardinals:



Glittering with gold

View attachment 225377


Roman Catholicism is figuratively called Mystery, Babylon the Great, because most of her rituals and practices originated from the religions of Babylon. You ever notice the Mitre hat that the pope wears closely represents the fish hat worn by the priests of Dagon the fish god? The split at top is the fishes mouth and there is even an eye. I would also mention the 82ft pagan obelisk from Hieropolis Eqypt that sits out in St. Peter's square.

The woman (Roman Catholicism) will ride the beast, meaning that she will use his authority and power to reestablish her religious authority, so that inhabitants of the earth will come under the authority of the pope and Roman Catholicism and that by force if necessary, just the way it was before 1798, except worse.

I believe that the false prophet will be none other than one of the future popes, who will be allowed to perform those miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast/antichrist and that for the purpose of giving credibility to his claim of being god.
Wow! For those who red X'd me, the truth could not more clearer regarding Roman Catholicism as Babylon the Great. I noticed that they didn't leave any explanation, just X. However, I know of what I speak of and it is just as I laid it out, complete with the scriptures to back up.

So, which scriptures do you disagree with? Because it is the word of God that you are disagreeing with, not with me.