WHICH IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR A CHRISTIAN TO FOLLOW?
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I'm not sure if you understand. God is perfect therefore His Word is perfect. The Bible is God's Word to us. To relay the information needed to understand the need for salvation and guidance in holy living. God is perfect so His Word is infallible.
The word infallible means “incapable of error.” If something is infallible, it is never wrong and thus absolutely trustworthy. Similarly, the word inerrant, also applied to Scripture, means “free from error.” Simply put, the Bible never fails.
The Bible claims to be infallible in 2 Peter 1:19, “We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable.” Peter continues with a description of how Scripture came to be: “No prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:20–21).
I personally do not see any contradictions in what you describe. And no one said there was not a difference between the Trinity. Not sure what you are talking about related to long hair in less you talking about pauls reference to woman and being covered. Differences in eye witness accounts are not contradictions but add to each other more details.
The word infallible means “incapable of error.” If something is infallible, it is never wrong and thus absolutely trustworthy. Similarly, the word inerrant, also applied to Scripture, means “free from error.” Simply put, the Bible never fails.
The Bible claims to be infallible in 2 Peter 1:19, “We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable.” Peter continues with a description of how Scripture came to be: “No prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:20–21).
I personally do not see any contradictions in what you describe. And no one said there was not a difference between the Trinity. Not sure what you are talking about related to long hair in less you talking about pauls reference to woman and being covered. Differences in eye witness accounts are not contradictions but add to each other more details.
Brother,
I see no contradiction between the reference in Matthew and the references in Acts and Galatians.
If I baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, then aren't you baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (who is the Son)?
If I baptize in the name of Jesus and given that Jesus, who is the son, is part of the Trinity and in oneness with God the Father and the Holy Ghost, then does it not imply that you are baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
Furthermore, there is only one baptism as pointed out in Ephesians.
Ephesians 4:4-5
There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. - ESV
But also not forgetting that prior to baptism, there needs to be repentance of sin, acknowledging that only Jesus saves and that I am in need of his forgiveness.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - ESV
In a perfect setting, the Word of God would have been hand written by God. In a non perfect setting, the Word of God was hand written by the Inspiration of God through God's Creation. If we could look past man's own views in some of the things written and focus on what we read as being God Writing this for His Purpose, there are no discrepancies or differences.
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Everything I read in the bible about baptism is John baptized with water and Jesus with the Holy Ghost and fire.
And Paul wasn't sent to baptize but to preach the gospel. (1 Cor 1:17)
So, I don't even understand the question of "who to follow?" I just go by the scriptures. I was baptized as an infant. Is baptizing an infant to remission of sins a thing? Baptisms I have seen have been all about a ceremony of baptism being some way of joining a newborn to the church of Jesus or "family of Jesus' believers." It doesn't seem like the same thing as what John did. But, I don't really know. Will I go find some church to be baptized to repentance now as an adult? No, I don't plan on it.
Not sure if that answers anyone's question.
And Paul wasn't sent to baptize but to preach the gospel. (1 Cor 1:17)
So, I don't even understand the question of "who to follow?" I just go by the scriptures. I was baptized as an infant. Is baptizing an infant to remission of sins a thing? Baptisms I have seen have been all about a ceremony of baptism being some way of joining a newborn to the church of Jesus or "family of Jesus' believers." It doesn't seem like the same thing as what John did. But, I don't really know. Will I go find some church to be baptized to repentance now as an adult? No, I don't plan on it.
Not sure if that answers anyone's question.
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According to our Father's prophet, Isaiah, to baptize in the name of Jesus or in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the same.
Isaiah 9:6
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Isaiah 9:6
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
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GRACE_ambassador said: Precious friend, why do you ask? Didn't you read my post #3 about Clarification of the questions "which I could not vote on," as they are ambiguous?
Ok, you "voted for What Jesus did/taught." I apologize for the length, causing
speed reading, so I will summarize, and now see IF you need to "RE-vote"?:
1) Should we not do as the humble Servant Jesus and
His 12 apostles taught, on the earth, to the "lost sheep
of the house Of ISRAEL"? OR:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From “Things That DIFFER!”:
2) Should we not do as The Risen And Glorified LORD JESUS Taught,
From Heaven, HIS ONE apostle, Paul, for The Body Of CHRIST, Today,
Under PURE GRACE?
Your choice, eh? Be Blessed!
Ok, you "voted for What Jesus did/taught." I apologize for the length, causing
speed reading, so I will summarize, and now see IF you need to "RE-vote"?:
1) Should we not do as the humble Servant Jesus and
His 12 apostles taught, on the earth, to the "lost sheep
of the house Of ISRAEL"? OR:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From “Things That DIFFER!”:
2) Should we not do as The Risen And Glorified LORD JESUS Taught,
From Heaven, HIS ONE apostle, Paul, for The Body Of CHRIST, Today,
Under PURE GRACE?
Your choice, eh? Be Blessed!
Poll [which NO ONE is Addressing] question:
Is water baptism required By God, Today?
If (1) yes, then the question of discrepancy you propose, {And, ALL
the discrepancies I listed in #18 }, Must be dealt with, yes? But:
If (2) "NO," THEN ALL the water Confusion" IMMEDIATELY Disappears!, no?
Agree, CHRIST's FULL Sacrifice Is All-SUFFICIENT, Correct!?
NO OT "ritual/rituals" are necessary, at all. In Biblical Fact, Under God's
GRACE, HE Says That, after faith/salvation, then there is only "ONE WORD:
LOVE, that fulfills ALL The Law!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)
Amen?
Judgers/Critics who believe yes, The OT ritual of water is for
Today, Have, at a Minimum, THESE PROBLEMS:
(1) Baptismal regenerationists "say you are LOST," IF you disobey!
(2) Grace/faith/saved denominations' traditionalists "say you are saved,
But are Disobedient, IF NOT water baptized! Now what happens?
Usually More accusations of:
"Those who disobey DO NOT love CHRIST, NOT obeying His commandments?"
Who appointed them "judge" over ALL those who are Confused about these
problems {MAX? = #18 }, Since "God Is The ONLY Righteous JUDGE"? Correct?
Poll q: Does something, water baptism, that "any do not require, but is a
wonderful experience and blessing," mean that "we SHOULD practice it
anyway," to "be much like our Saviour as possible"? Or:
Should we not find from God, Exactly What IS FOR "our faith And PRACTICE"?
I personally believe "that I fall FAR SHORT Of HIS PERFECTION!" And, Also,
IF we are to live, striving to be holy, that we Really Should NOT ADD to
HIS WORD, what HE DOES NOT Require Today, water baptism, since this
would be "blaspheming" HIS HOLY WORD, Correct? see ONE Baptism
Be Blessed!
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Poll q: Is this Confusion Exactly WHY God Commands 2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!?
To Solve These "discrepancies/differences," HIS WAY?
"For MY WAYS Are not your ways, And MY Thoughts Are not your
thoughts, Saith The LORD {GOD Almighty}!" (Isaiah 55 : 8 KJB!)
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Final Poll: IF "yes," water Is Still Required By God, Today, Under
HIS PURE GRACE, THEN, please help me with these TWO things:
(1) IF God Said There IS ONLY ONE BAPTISM For Today,
(Ephesians 4 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!), Then please Explain
your Bible "study" method, Proving "it is OK to ADD water baptism,
making "TWO baptismS" for Today, Under HIS GRACE,
Without "blaspheming" HIS PURE And HOLY Word Of Truth?
(2) IF "answer to (1) is Quite satisfactory," THEN please continue,
and Identify WHICH Of the TEN water traditions listed here { #18 },
should "be practiced" Today, Under God's PURE GRACE, and your
Bible "study" method WHICH "proves" The Truth of your Explanation.
Thanks. WHY?:
Just in case, I am WRONG here: 12 baptisms and here: ONE Baptism
Precious friend(s), may you all be Very Richly Blessed In JESUS CHRIST!!
Is water baptism required By God, Today?
If (1) yes, then the question of discrepancy you propose, {And, ALL
the discrepancies I listed in #18 }, Must be dealt with, yes? But:
If (2) "NO," THEN ALL the water Confusion" IMMEDIATELY Disappears!, no?
Agree, CHRIST's FULL Sacrifice Is All-SUFFICIENT, Correct!?
NO OT "ritual/rituals" are necessary, at all. In Biblical Fact, Under God's
GRACE, HE Says That, after faith/salvation, then there is only "ONE WORD:
LOVE, that fulfills ALL The Law!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)
Amen?
Judgers/Critics who believe yes, The OT ritual of water is for
Today, Have, at a Minimum, THESE PROBLEMS:
(1) Baptismal regenerationists "say you are LOST," IF you disobey!
(2) Grace/faith/saved denominations' traditionalists "say you are saved,
But are Disobedient, IF NOT water baptized! Now what happens?
Usually More accusations of:
"Those who disobey DO NOT love CHRIST, NOT obeying His commandments?"
Who appointed them "judge" over ALL those who are Confused about these
problems {MAX? = #18 }, Since "God Is The ONLY Righteous JUDGE"? Correct?
Poll q: Does something, water baptism, that "any do not require, but is a
wonderful experience and blessing," mean that "we SHOULD practice it
anyway," to "be much like our Saviour as possible"? Or:
Should we not find from God, Exactly What IS FOR "our faith And PRACTICE"?
I personally believe "that I fall FAR SHORT Of HIS PERFECTION!" And, Also,
IF we are to live, striving to be holy, that we Really Should NOT ADD to
HIS WORD, what HE DOES NOT Require Today, water baptism, since this
would be "blaspheming" HIS HOLY WORD, Correct? see ONE Baptism
Be Blessed!
+
Poll q: Is this Confusion Exactly WHY God Commands 2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!?
To Solve These "discrepancies/differences," HIS WAY?
"For MY WAYS Are not your ways, And MY Thoughts Are not your
thoughts, Saith The LORD {GOD Almighty}!" (Isaiah 55 : 8 KJB!)
-----------------------------------------------------
Final Poll: IF "yes," water Is Still Required By God, Today, Under
HIS PURE GRACE, THEN, please help me with these TWO things:
(1) IF God Said There IS ONLY ONE BAPTISM For Today,
(Ephesians 4 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!), Then please Explain
your Bible "study" method, Proving "it is OK to ADD water baptism,
making "TWO baptismS" for Today, Under HIS GRACE,
Without "blaspheming" HIS PURE And HOLY Word Of Truth?
(2) IF "answer to (1) is Quite satisfactory," THEN please continue,
and Identify WHICH Of the TEN water traditions listed here { #18 },
should "be practiced" Today, Under God's PURE GRACE, and your
Bible "study" method WHICH "proves" The Truth of your Explanation.
Thanks. WHY?:
Just in case, I am WRONG here: 12 baptisms and here: ONE Baptism
Precious friend(s), may you all be Very Richly Blessed In JESUS CHRIST!!
I do understand what you are saying
(Re. long hair......Pauls teaching about women and men and hair length....showing how Paul did not consider the mighty Lion...just an example)
Not sure you understand the difference between the Perfection of the Word of God and the perfection of the Apostles. While Gods Word is surely perfect, the Apostles were not perfect, and Paul speaks of this more than once.
The "PERFECT" of Gods Word is that it "perfectly" records the words/actions of the Apostles. The good, the bad, the ugly (so to speak) This is true throughout the Word of God.
If you truly believe there is no difference between the two statements used in water baptism by various Churches today, then I can not help you.
One: Is the instruction of Jesus the Christ to the Apostles.
One: Is the way the Apostles are recorded (in their words) did.
There have been numerous Threads here on CC concerning this, and there has arose a great hue and cry when I or others say we should water baptize new Believers as Jesus instructed, by saying : In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
You MAY be right about the possible reference to the Holy Trinity in the instruction of Jesus, but this can only be a problem for those that deny the Holy Trinity. Maybe that is the reason for the numerous disputations about all of this. There IS A DIFFERENCE. To say otherwise simply ignores what is written in RED and what is written in black...........
(Re. long hair......Pauls teaching about women and men and hair length....showing how Paul did not consider the mighty Lion...just an example)
Not sure you understand the difference between the Perfection of the Word of God and the perfection of the Apostles. While Gods Word is surely perfect, the Apostles were not perfect, and Paul speaks of this more than once.
The "PERFECT" of Gods Word is that it "perfectly" records the words/actions of the Apostles. The good, the bad, the ugly (so to speak) This is true throughout the Word of God.
If you truly believe there is no difference between the two statements used in water baptism by various Churches today, then I can not help you.
One: Is the instruction of Jesus the Christ to the Apostles.
One: Is the way the Apostles are recorded (in their words) did.
There have been numerous Threads here on CC concerning this, and there has arose a great hue and cry when I or others say we should water baptize new Believers as Jesus instructed, by saying : In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
You MAY be right about the possible reference to the Holy Trinity in the instruction of Jesus, but this can only be a problem for those that deny the Holy Trinity. Maybe that is the reason for the numerous disputations about all of this. There IS A DIFFERENCE. To say otherwise simply ignores what is written in RED and what is written in black...........
However, there is. Which is revealed with the choices in the Poll. Do we do as Jesus instructed, or do we do as the Apostles did? See my previous Post, which might show some reasons for the differences.
I am aware of that. It is the baptism of the Holy Ghost. That is not what this Thread is addressing. Thanks....
I am aware of that. It is the baptism of the Holy Ghost. That is not what this Thread is addressing. Thanks....