FreeGrace2 said:
Who cares? The only biblical issue between mortality and immortality is being imperishable. Like your views on a pretrib rapture, your claim about "no blood" is without any biblical support. Just another opinion or guess, I would guess.
Can you show me any verse that speaks of this "bloodlessness" that you claim?
No, you did not. The "Saviour" word above includes blood on our behalf. It does NOT speak of a "bloodless body". Just an imagination.
Wow. Really? The words (phrase) "flesh and blood" simply refers to a human body. That's not. It's certainly NOT meaning that there is no blood in heaven.
Whether our changed bodies are bloodless or not is immaterial. Why do you focus on such irrelevant ideas?
How many times must one remind you pretribbers that by the time the Tribulation occurs MOST OF THE church will ALREADY be in heaven. There's been about 2,000 years of the deaths of NT believers, so of course they are already there. And they will be the ones who accompany Jesus to the rapture, along with all the OT saints as well.
Sure. Cherry pick your version. I compare ALL the available translations to see how many translate the various ways. And then look at lexicons to see what fits best.
50 I tell you this, brothers and sisters: Flesh and blood cannot have a part in the kingdom of God. Something that will ruin cannot have a part in something that never ruins.
51 But look! I tell you this secret: We will not all sleep in death, but we will all be changed.
52 It will take only a second -- as quickly as an eye blinks -- when the last trumpet sounds. The trumpet will sound, and those who have died will be raised to live forever, and we will all be changed.
53 This body that can be destroyed must clothe itself with something that can never be destroyed. And this body that dies must clothe itself with something that can never die.
Well, pretty much what I expected. You have misread/understood the verses.
The bolded words say nothing about blood being what "ruins" or "destroys" a body. Which is basically what you are claiming.
The sole issue is that physical bodies were not designed for heaven. Did Jesus eat and drink with the disciples after His resurrection? Of course. That requires metabolism. Would you like a short course on metabolism and how blood is required for metabolism to occur?
So, back to the drawing board for you.
Who cares? The only biblical issue between mortality and immortality is being imperishable. Like your views on a pretrib rapture, your claim about "no blood" is without any biblical support. Just another opinion or guess, I would guess.
Can you show me any verse that speaks of this "bloodlessness" that you claim?
No, you did not. The "Saviour" word above includes blood on our behalf. It does NOT speak of a "bloodless body". Just an imagination.
Wow. Really? The words (phrase) "flesh and blood" simply refers to a human body. That's not. It's certainly NOT meaning that there is no blood in heaven.
Whether our changed bodies are bloodless or not is immaterial. Why do you focus on such irrelevant ideas?
How many times must one remind you pretribbers that by the time the Tribulation occurs MOST OF THE church will ALREADY be in heaven. There's been about 2,000 years of the deaths of NT believers, so of course they are already there. And they will be the ones who accompany Jesus to the rapture, along with all the OT saints as well.
Sure. Cherry pick your version. I compare ALL the available translations to see how many translate the various ways. And then look at lexicons to see what fits best.
50 I tell you this, brothers and sisters: Flesh and blood cannot have a part in the kingdom of God. Something that will ruin cannot have a part in something that never ruins.
51 But look! I tell you this secret: We will not all sleep in death, but we will all be changed.
52 It will take only a second -- as quickly as an eye blinks -- when the last trumpet sounds. The trumpet will sound, and those who have died will be raised to live forever, and we will all be changed.
53 This body that can be destroyed must clothe itself with something that can never be destroyed. And this body that dies must clothe itself with something that can never die.
Well, pretty much what I expected. You have misread/understood the verses.
The bolded words say nothing about blood being what "ruins" or "destroys" a body. Which is basically what you are claiming.
The sole issue is that physical bodies were not designed for heaven. Did Jesus eat and drink with the disciples after His resurrection? Of course. That requires metabolism. Would you like a short course on metabolism and how blood is required for metabolism to occur?
So, back to the drawing board for you.
Believe what you want to believe, and I will believe what the Holy Spirit has put on my heart to believe.
Titus 3:9-10 (NIV)
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
We are finished with this debate.
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