Did Christ change the world or fulfill what was said of the world?
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Ugh sire but let’s do it honestly and account the whole interaction from when it began I was discussing with blick his op post 15 had no prior interaction with you or anyone but blick
you then interject to me , to what I had said to blick Post 18
“So it is perfectly ok for her to take what people say twist them and make it appear they said something they never said. Then blame shift to make herself look good?
are you serious my friend? You should be chastening her for her sins, not enabling her to continue in them”
My response to you now that you have brought yourself into my interaction with blick
“I should chasten no one for any sin brother that’s my judgement and uh yes I was serious in that I left some scripture agreeing that those whom pursue arguing and immediately take offense and begin to go on the offensive , are not helpful and that even when we disagree , there’s a certain way of approaching other people God dearly Loves”
long post so I’ll stop But it’s post 19 feel free to read on so far you are literally offended because i don’t judge people like you . And prefer that Jesus does that part So we continue
next interaction again your response Post 20 long again so I’ll shorten
“So I guess when Paul called out Peter for sinning ( didn’t happen actually that way but ) he was against Gods will
when someone continually and without repentance lies about others for months on end, failing to chasten them is enabling them. Not helping them,
and it certainly does not help the chatroom any, because we continue with the same person lieing about others claiming they say th8ngs they never said and then when confronted, blame shifting
sorry brother, but your dead wrong on this issue, “
my reply knowing nothing about what you are accusing blick of but yet accusing me of supporting and condoning but me explaining you and I aren’t an apostle and judge but common believers and that again ok. Ot wyalified to judge others
“ Um well apostles aren’t who you or I are is the thing they have a commission to judge we do not we are supposed to learn what they taught and one of the thkngs ive learned from Jesus , Paul , John and Peter is that I personally have no place correcting and assuming some leadership role in the church when I’m NOt appointed by the lord to Be that …
again your reply to this thinking
“You are an enabler my friend,
that’s sad,
when you see someone sin, to allow them to continue in sin is to enable them.”
again me
“it isn’t me allowing someone else’s actions is the thing how powerful do you suppose a Christian is bro ? Do I control others because I don’t condemn and accuse other sinners ?
who am I to point to someone else’s flaws and imperfections I have plenty of my own friend ( I’m assuming in your view you Need to correct me and all that because I’m admitting I’m imperfect but I’m ok with just believing Jesus and learning from him and now you probably can’t associate with me a terrible sinner and everything )
But the bottom line is I can’t make anyone repent 🙂 and I am not responsible or another person sins I’m not sure where your thought and judgements are coming from but I’m certain it’s not from the Bible
I’m not fit to judge anyone
and to be honest I don’t believe you are either my judgement and correction is on my own life and flaws of one day I find I’m some super righteous man that’s chosen of God to judge people then I would ,
…Jesus words are sufficient to correct a believer , my view is to help people see that it’s his word we need , ot for
Me to go condemn and accuse sinners I’m just one of them just sinner who has found a life of repentance when I fail and a spirit to press forward into his kingdom
You again disregarding anything I said ( probably not even reading it because your intent is arguing btw ) and again
“Your still an enabler,
I have no respect for them. I praise God for the people in my life that were not afraid to call me out when they saw a sin issue in my life and area of pride that did not allow me to move forward. But held me back in my own belief.”
I’m exhausted so if you insist I’ll finish taking the actual account but so far it doesn’t seem I’m judging and attacking and accusing you but sort of agreeing with what Jesus taught about the matter and you are completely obsessed with correcting r at thought of sticking to what Jesus taught
you then interject to me , to what I had said to blick Post 18
“So it is perfectly ok for her to take what people say twist them and make it appear they said something they never said. Then blame shift to make herself look good?
are you serious my friend? You should be chastening her for her sins, not enabling her to continue in them”
My response to you now that you have brought yourself into my interaction with blick
“I should chasten no one for any sin brother that’s my judgement and uh yes I was serious in that I left some scripture agreeing that those whom pursue arguing and immediately take offense and begin to go on the offensive , are not helpful and that even when we disagree , there’s a certain way of approaching other people God dearly Loves”
long post so I’ll stop But it’s post 19 feel free to read on so far you are literally offended because i don’t judge people like you . And prefer that Jesus does that part So we continue
next interaction again your response Post 20 long again so I’ll shorten
“So I guess when Paul called out Peter for sinning ( didn’t happen actually that way but ) he was against Gods will
when someone continually and without repentance lies about others for months on end, failing to chasten them is enabling them. Not helping them,
and it certainly does not help the chatroom any, because we continue with the same person lieing about others claiming they say th8ngs they never said and then when confronted, blame shifting
sorry brother, but your dead wrong on this issue, “
my reply knowing nothing about what you are accusing blick of but yet accusing me of supporting and condoning but me explaining you and I aren’t an apostle and judge but common believers and that again ok. Ot wyalified to judge others
“ Um well apostles aren’t who you or I are is the thing they have a commission to judge we do not we are supposed to learn what they taught and one of the thkngs ive learned from Jesus , Paul , John and Peter is that I personally have no place correcting and assuming some leadership role in the church when I’m NOt appointed by the lord to Be that …
again your reply to this thinking
“You are an enabler my friend,
that’s sad,
when you see someone sin, to allow them to continue in sin is to enable them.”
again me
“it isn’t me allowing someone else’s actions is the thing how powerful do you suppose a Christian is bro ? Do I control others because I don’t condemn and accuse other sinners ?
who am I to point to someone else’s flaws and imperfections I have plenty of my own friend ( I’m assuming in your view you Need to correct me and all that because I’m admitting I’m imperfect but I’m ok with just believing Jesus and learning from him and now you probably can’t associate with me a terrible sinner and everything )
But the bottom line is I can’t make anyone repent 🙂 and I am not responsible or another person sins I’m not sure where your thought and judgements are coming from but I’m certain it’s not from the Bible
I’m not fit to judge anyone
and to be honest I don’t believe you are either my judgement and correction is on my own life and flaws of one day I find I’m some super righteous man that’s chosen of God to judge people then I would ,
…Jesus words are sufficient to correct a believer , my view is to help people see that it’s his word we need , ot for
Me to go condemn and accuse sinners I’m just one of them just sinner who has found a life of repentance when I fail and a spirit to press forward into his kingdom
You again disregarding anything I said ( probably not even reading it because your intent is arguing btw ) and again
“Your still an enabler,
I have no respect for them. I praise God for the people in my life that were not afraid to call me out when they saw a sin issue in my life and area of pride that did not allow me to move forward. But held me back in my own belief.”
I’m exhausted so if you insist I’ll finish taking the actual account but so far it doesn’t seem I’m judging and attacking and accusing you but sort of agreeing with what Jesus taught about the matter and you are completely obsessed with correcting r at thought of sticking to what Jesus taught
I wonder what Christ would do if Christ came up against actions like yours? Christ said turn the other cheek. Christ would love you, even as you attack, but Christ stood up to the Pharisees who were out to get him as you are out to get me. Christ would want you to see yourself, but Christ would not want you to feel hurt. If you accepted Christ you would have Him within and not feel so hurt by learning of God's truths, saying they were directed at your person. You would be cleaned of everything, nothing could be against you.
If they are caught up in twisted thinking, and if they are sure that twist is correct, then people will not look any longer at themselves. Few have an open mind.
One of the biggest traps is not thinking of scripture from the source, but thinking of it through the lens of "scholars", as they call others and thinking they cannot be wrong. The bible is our source, not so called scholars.
As ab illustration of this it would be possible for these twisted up people to correct themselves if they check some of their sayings with scripture like "that was only told to Israel". That is not scripture. It is a twist on scripture and needs to be thought threw using scripture as a way of thinking.
One of the biggest traps is not thinking of scripture from the source, but thinking of it through the lens of "scholars", as they call others and thinking they cannot be wrong. The bible is our source, not so called scholars.
As ab illustration of this it would be possible for these twisted up people to correct themselves if they check some of their sayings with scripture like "that was only told to Israel". That is not scripture. It is a twist on scripture and needs to be thought threw using scripture as a way of thinking.
If I have ever blamed others, or twisted what they say you are correct, it would be wrong of me. But to tell the world that it is right to call other people names like hypocrite and all you accuse me of is not of Christ being I love my Lord and Savior.
I think you have read scripture enough to know it is wrong. It is right that you judge what I do as being in line with scripture, but scripture tells us it is wrong to judge as your use of "Blik" and "you" is doing. I can take it, I love the Lord. But on a Christian site, telling of Christianity, it is not a good thing to do. You actions are against Christianity.
I think you have read scripture enough to know it is wrong. It is right that you judge what I do as being in line with scripture, but scripture tells us it is wrong to judge as your use of "Blik" and "you" is doing. I can take it, I love the Lord. But on a Christian site, telling of Christianity, it is not a good thing to do. You actions are against Christianity.
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I ask you to give examples of what I am to repent from and your answer to that is "how many times". Yes, I ignore a lot of your false accusations of me, and you keep going on and on about these "its". OK. I know I never had any intention of accusing you, only of speaking of what scripture tells us, but you say I have done the opposite. Now I will listen to some of your accusations. So tell me.
As Christians, we are to tell the truth. When someone accuses another of a particular wrongdoing, but consistently engages in that same wrongdoing, that is called "hypocrisy", and telling that person their behaviour is hypocritical is telling the truth. Their beliefs and who they love are not, in fact, relevant.
You consistently do exactly what you complain about others doing; I showed that in my previous post. You don't want others to point out your bad behaviours, rather you "just want to discuss Scripture". However, you seem to feel that it is appropriate to point out the (perceived) bad behaviours of others, and do so frequently (though never with actual examples).
How about you stop complaining about what others do, and get on with discussing Scripture. Don't expect others to start doing what you refuse to start doing.
You consistently do exactly what you complain about others doing; I showed that in my previous post. You don't want others to point out your bad behaviours, rather you "just want to discuss Scripture". However, you seem to feel that it is appropriate to point out the (perceived) bad behaviours of others, and do so frequently (though never with actual examples).
How about you stop complaining about what others do, and get on with discussing Scripture. Don't expect others to start doing what you refuse to start doing.
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In saying this, I acknowledge the law is there. EVEN I STUDY IT. which means it is perfectly open for discussion. and everyone shoudl study it. But you came back and made it appear I said something else!
I never mentioned anything about what scripture to discuss. Yet you refuse to acknowledge this fact.
In fact you CONTINUED THE LIE!
Which I NEVER SAID.
My comment was about YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW. Not the LAW ITSELF
But as usual. You wont repent. You claim to be humble. but this is just one of many examples. And I have yet to see you confess once you were worn.
I don't expect it here either. Maybe just maybe you will surprise me.
In saying this, I acknowledge the law is there. EVEN I STUDY IT. which means it is perfectly open for discussion. and everyone shoudl study it. But you came back and made it appear I said something else!
I never mentioned anything about what scripture to discuss. Yet you refuse to acknowledge this fact.
In fact you CONTINUED THE LIE!
Which I NEVER SAID.
My comment was about YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW. Not the LAW ITSELF
But as usual. You wont repent. You claim to be humble. but this is just one of many examples. And I have yet to see you confess once you were worn.
I don't expect it here either. Maybe just maybe you will surprise me.
What if a Christian is used by another Christian to uphold their right to sin? Or falsely accused? Christ was falsely accused. Christ did not waver to do as his accusers asked. As Christians, we are to follow Christ the very best way we imperfect people can. That is to follow God not fleshly man.
I am being tested by being personally attacked in every way that is permissible on tis net. The attack is not against any heresy, it is purely a personal attack. God is being used in this attack, but the purpose has nothing to do with God's ways. If I say, for example, I love the Lord they attack that accusing me of being a hypocrite. Anything and everything is used in this personal attack. They ignore that they are told not to judge, they ignore that even "you fool" is wrong, they ignore that we are to judge actions as being of God or not as they attack personally. It is an attack that is not of God at all. I am told not to object to their attack, even, they are sure they are absoletly right.
I am being tested by being personally attacked in every way that is permissible on tis net. The attack is not against any heresy, it is purely a personal attack. God is being used in this attack, but the purpose has nothing to do with God's ways. If I say, for example, I love the Lord they attack that accusing me of being a hypocrite. Anything and everything is used in this personal attack. They ignore that they are told not to judge, they ignore that even "you fool" is wrong, they ignore that we are to judge actions as being of God or not as they attack personally. It is an attack that is not of God at all. I am told not to object to their attack, even, they are sure they are absoletly right.
To me, I am responding to your post saying what I believe about the law, and to you I am responding to your post as to you personally. If I apologize, it is an apology to what you see in the post, not in what I am speaking of. How am I to do that? I would first have to say that I was judging you personally, not judging scripture and that is not the truth. Yet those words were there and your reading of them is how it was. It is called between the devil and the post.
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well then stop doing things that are hypocritical
no one has ever said to you that you are not saved. you make things up. quite the drama queen. you should stop that as well
I have exchanged many posts with you and never called you a name but I certainly have said the hypocrisy in some of your posts is over the top and I say it again
you are not honest Blik. you say no one shows you scripture but yet that is not true at all. many posts addressed to you are full of scripture from different people and you just ignore it and continue on with you opinions and interpretations
I am done with your friend who defends these things and there is no point in continuing with you either. your last posts to EG are anything but truthful
seems most people have stopped replying to you because of the things I mentioned above. so, continue to argue but you might be doing it all by yourself
no one has ever said to you that you are not saved. you make things up. quite the drama queen. you should stop that as well
I have exchanged many posts with you and never called you a name but I certainly have said the hypocrisy in some of your posts is over the top and I say it again
you are not honest Blik. you say no one shows you scripture but yet that is not true at all. many posts addressed to you are full of scripture from different people and you just ignore it and continue on with you opinions and interpretations
I am done with your friend who defends these things and there is no point in continuing with you either. your last posts to EG are anything but truthful
seems most people have stopped replying to you because of the things I mentioned above. so, continue to argue but you might be doing it all by yourself
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