More and more it appears they're purposed to abrogate the truth and lead those not well versed in the scriptures astray.
What's really odd in this discussion is when self-deceived Christians object to other Christian's pointing out God predestined their Salvation before the foundation of the world.
What?
When, per their counter argument, they insist God intended to Save everyone.
But everyone isn't Saved. The doctrine that teaches that is known as Universalism. Which is considered Heresy because it is unsupported by scripture.
Further, contextually speaking, Universalism,, doesn't fit with the identity of his Elect. Nor, the parables that reiterate (s)elect ones were predestined for Salvation.
And in Revelation itself. We read God wrote the names of the Elect/Saved in his Book of (Eternal) Life
before the foundation of the world.
Offer still? Those self-identified Christian's who also insist God, the source,creator, Alpha and Omega=Beginning to the End, is not entirely in control, Sovereign, over everything he created and that functions according to his design.
It's like saying, the parable of the potter is nonsense. And means nothing. Because the clay is in control of its destiny.
In contemporary terms, it's like saying a watchmaker, once the watch is completely made, has abandoned all knowledge and control over the watch. Because the watch is autonomous by the watchmaker's design forever.
In order to make those allusions about our maker , one has to excise all scripture to the contrary.
And shockingly, ther are those here who self-identity as Christian and labor to do just that.
Amazingly similar to the arrogance of Lucifer. Seriously.
Their message post after post amounts to stating:
I believe in God but he's not Sovereign, he's not Preeminent in power and authority. He's not Omniscient, all scripture that has God telling readers he predestined, predetermined all things according to his will, power, authority, and for his own glory, are to be ignored. Or, abrogated to the point the original message within them is indistinguishable from their inventions against them, he's not Omnipotent, he's not Omnipresent. And he's not Omnigenesis.
That is the Luciferian nature at work. That which insists human will can operate separate and apart from anything of God.
When anyone insists Pharaoh hardened his own heart, not God, and when the OT verses
tell us God hardened Pharaoh's heart, and told Moses of this before Moses set off to command the release of Egypt's Hebrew slaves in the name of I Am, that's Luciferian.
The adversarial spirit opposed to God's word
and will.
Just like in Eden. When the serpent played on the words of warning, God's first commandment, in order to mislead Eve and lead her from the truth of God's will.
Frustrating? Can be. But then, if we take a breath and re-read such people we realize what we are encountering is a blessing. God, in his wisdom, reiterating in real time, the fact his message and lessons in scripture are timeless wisdom for his Elect.
We who have the eyes to read, the ears to hear, and the heart that is open to recognize the light being assailed by the ever failing darkness.
Even a Pharisee knew this.
Ephesians 1:11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,...
14. who is the guarantee[d] of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it,[e] to the praise of his glory.