2 Thessalonians 2:3 "the departure" IS intentionally describing the RAPTURE.
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every one hears in there own vernacular via the holy spirit.why mock learning? look i know your playing dumb ok?i'm not overly concern with others knowing languages.I know there's less humans to mess with.Noah dad was 777
lam-meek = Lamech was his dad...I don't want to stress your mind but Noah means rest in Hebrew.Also theres a thing about Noah taking the curse away from the land.Noah is a kind of Christ.
lam-meek = Lamech was his dad...I don't want to stress your mind but Noah means rest in Hebrew.Also theres a thing about Noah taking the curse away from the land.Noah is a kind of Christ.
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Well.......you either get it or you don't.
Tell me again how it is that ALL and I mean virtually every single reverent faithful believing legitimate Spirit filled Christian is going to be slaughtered during the time of God's 70th week of Daniel wrath. I mean how many are going to be left for YOUR so-called rapture? A bakers dozen?
And then tell me again who it is that's going to populate the millennial EARTHLY kingdom.
You still have not yet answered the three SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD questions I earlier posed. Because you simply cannot. Nor did any of your cognoscenti.
The fact is you don't get it. Many do not get it. And that is a pity.
Tell me again how it is that ALL and I mean virtually every single reverent faithful believing legitimate Spirit filled Christian is going to be slaughtered during the time of God's 70th week of Daniel wrath. I mean how many are going to be left for YOUR so-called rapture? A bakers dozen?
And then tell me again who it is that's going to populate the millennial EARTHLY kingdom.
You still have not yet answered the three SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD questions I earlier posed. Because you simply cannot. Nor did any of your cognoscenti.
The fact is you don't get it. Many do not get it. And that is a pity.
i love you Brother and i am not mocking you at all - just saying that you cannot take wow wow wow in English and change it to another language in an attempt to somehow undermine the blessing going on here - that's not good, especially when those who hear in another language hear something 'unclean' when it had no evil intent from the original meaning.
Kapeesh
Now, what you just shared about Noah is great - Amen
Kapeesh
Now, what you just shared about Noah is great - Amen
The phrase "the TIMES of the Gentiles" (i.e. Gentile domination over Israel, which started in 606/605bc--think: Neb's "dream / statue / image" and pertaining to "[Jerusalem shall be] TRODDEN DOWN OF the Gentiles"--Lk21:24 / Rev11:2)...
[note: this is NOT (what some commonly call) "the Church age," as some confuse it to be meaning here]
... is DISTINCT from the phrase...
"the FULNESS of the Gentiles BE COME IN [G1525]" (Rom11:25; and relating also to Israel's "blindness / a hardening in part... UNTIL")
These two DISTINCT phrases are not speaking of the same thing (nor the same point in time / time-reference).
Which passage of Scripture are you referring to, in your question?
[note: this is NOT (what some commonly call) "the Church age," as some confuse it to be meaning here]
... is DISTINCT from the phrase...
"the FULNESS of the Gentiles BE COME IN [G1525]" (Rom11:25; and relating also to Israel's "blindness / a hardening in part... UNTIL")
These two DISTINCT phrases are not speaking of the same thing (nor the same point in time / time-reference).
Which passage of Scripture are you referring to, in your question?
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i love learning - will never stop learning - have been blessed by your posts
always living loving learning
i even learn from Mr.Twister and CV5 but more from their mistakes then from their attempts
i do dangerous work - when i get bored i watch video on peoples mistakes that are costly - u can learn a lot more that way
God has done the same for us - 1 Corinthians 10: 11-12
Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
always living loving learning
i even learn from Mr.Twister and CV5 but more from their mistakes then from their attempts
i do dangerous work - when i get bored i watch video on peoples mistakes that are costly - u can learn a lot more that way
God has done the same for us - 1 Corinthians 10: 11-12
Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Apostasy mean departure
departure mean
the action of leaving, especially to start a journey.
"the day of departure"
Is that mean rapture?
I think we have to see the context.
In 2 tes Paul seem to warn people not to think rapture had been happen
Paul say apostasy first than rapture
So the word apostasy on that verse mean depart from the real teaching of Jesus, not rapture
departure mean
the action of leaving, especially to start a journey.
"the day of departure"
Is that mean rapture?
I think we have to see the context.
In 2 tes Paul seem to warn people not to think rapture had been happen
Paul say apostasy first than rapture
So the word apostasy on that verse mean depart from the real teaching of Jesus, not rapture
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So we should believe your error over the words of the Lord?
The Bride of Christ asked the Groom(Jesus) when His Second Coming would be - He never said i will pre-trib rapture you.
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying,
“Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you" Matt 24: 3-4
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matt 24 29-31
The Bride of Christ asked the Groom(Jesus) when His Second Coming would be - He never said i will pre-trib rapture you.
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying,
“Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you" Matt 24: 3-4
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matt 24 29-31
blah blah blah.
Not single solitary post-tribber has answered my three simple questions asked in post #120. Absolutely no comprehension of the profound significance of Romans 11:25. And no idea how all of this works with Daniel ch 9. With perfect flawless elegant symmetry and synchronicity as regards all of the other relevant statements of the Lord Jesus and His Scriptures.
On the other hand pre-tribbers have the answers to all of this. And so much more. Pre-tribbers have all prophecy fulfilled, all of God's will being accomplished, all parties being satisfied in terms of covenants, God's nature is not violated, God's glory is not impugned. All loose ends are tied up neatly.....no Scripture is left dangling in the breeze.
It's all so very soul satisfying. Gods impeccability and wisdom on display in all of its refulgent glory. Simply breathtaking. You should try it sometime.....
Not single solitary post-tribber has answered my three simple questions asked in post #120. Absolutely no comprehension of the profound significance of Romans 11:25. And no idea how all of this works with Daniel ch 9. With perfect flawless elegant symmetry and synchronicity as regards all of the other relevant statements of the Lord Jesus and His Scriptures.
On the other hand pre-tribbers have the answers to all of this. And so much more. Pre-tribbers have all prophecy fulfilled, all of God's will being accomplished, all parties being satisfied in terms of covenants, God's nature is not violated, God's glory is not impugned. All loose ends are tied up neatly.....no Scripture is left dangling in the breeze.
It's all so very soul satisfying. Gods impeccability and wisdom on display in all of its refulgent glory. Simply breathtaking. You should try it sometime.....
blah blah blah.
Not single solitary post-tribber has answered my three simple questions asked in post #120. Absolutely no comprehension of the profound significance of Romans 11:25. And no idea how all of this works with Daniel ch 9. With perfect flawless elegant symmetry and synchronicity as regards all of the other relevant statements of the Lord Jesus and His Scriptures.
On the other hand pre-tribbers have the answers to all of this. And so much more. Pre-tribbers have all prophecy fulfilled, all of God's will being accomplished, all parties being satisfied in terms of covenants, God's nature is not violated, God's glory is not impugned. All loose ends are tied up neatly.....no Scripture is left dangling in the breeze.
It's all so very soul satisfying. Gods impeccability and wisdom on display in all of its refulgent glory. Simply breathtaking. You should try it sometime.....
Not single solitary post-tribber has answered my three simple questions asked in post #120. Absolutely no comprehension of the profound significance of Romans 11:25. And no idea how all of this works with Daniel ch 9. With perfect flawless elegant symmetry and synchronicity as regards all of the other relevant statements of the Lord Jesus and His Scriptures.
On the other hand pre-tribbers have the answers to all of this. And so much more. Pre-tribbers have all prophecy fulfilled, all of God's will being accomplished, all parties being satisfied in terms of covenants, God's nature is not violated, God's glory is not impugned. All loose ends are tied up neatly.....no Scripture is left dangling in the breeze.
It's all so very soul satisfying. Gods impeccability and wisdom on display in all of its refulgent glory. Simply breathtaking. You should try it sometime.....
This is called dodging. It would be related to the red Herring fallacy.
Red herring fallacy
The attempt to redirect the subject of discussion to a different subject not being discussed and not related to the original discussion. The red herring fallacy is an intentional diversion with the objective of avoiding the original subject.
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"Tell me again how it is that ALL and I mean virtually every single reverent faithful believing legitimate Spirit filled Christian is going to be slaughtered during the time of God's 70th week of Daniel wrath. I mean how many are going to be left for YOUR so-called rapture? A bakers dozen?"
"Tell me again how it is that ALL and I mean virtually every single reverent faithful believing legitimate Spirit filled Christian is going to be slaughtered during the time of God's 70th week of Daniel wrath. I mean how many are going to be left for YOUR so-called rapture? A bakers dozen?"
Rev 7:14
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.,,,Philadelphia because you have been patience.i will keep you from the hour of testing that shall happen to all that are on the earth.
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.,,,Philadelphia because you have been patience.i will keep you from the hour of testing that shall happen to all that are on the earth.
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