How many here believe the literal Word of God in the Bible

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How many here believe the literal Word of God in the Bible


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The Textus Receptus (from which we get the kjv) is the correct stream.
my understanding is that some what of you say and, what i have said in the past is a erroneous assumption. Some is based on the Latin text of Jerome and to be precise that is different then Textus Receptus.,,Such is the case with Simon that is called Niger and the name lucifer by the way they should have remove the word ni*** in the latter additions
 

Blik

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Was it impossible that the original apostles who penned the holy scriptures could have given us the unadulterated message of the gospel in the Bible, because they were not infallible?
That would be saying that scripture is the same as transcriptions of scripture. We are discussing translations.
 

John146

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Now wait just one minute. You preach that the KJV is never to be questioned, we are not to test the spirit, that man can be infallible. I find that idea is contrary to what scripture tells me. I know God does not need me to speak up for God, but I also don't want anyone to think that even if I am only one imperfect person and my testimony is not worth much, I do want to be sure that if it is the truth as I know it, my voice will speak for truth and I do the best I can. I find saying we are not to question a translation including the KJV is not the truth as scripture gives it to us.
Absolutely question it, test it, study it and see for yourself.
 

Adstar

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There are estimated to be more than 45,000 Christian denominations globally so I ask the question.

How many here believe the literal Word of God in the Bible
I took your question to mean do you believe the Bible is literally the Word of God.. Meaning do i believe that the Bible is a Message from God.. So i selected Yes..

On the other hand, The Bible uses a lot of symbolism in the message delivery.. This is more often used in the books of prophecy.. The Book of Revelation and the Book of Daniel probably being the best example of this.. So i don't believe there will be a literal multi headed beast with many horns and eyes rising up out of the earth, that scripture is a symbolic representation of an end times great empire..
 

ResidentAlien

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How are you so sure of this if the originals are so important, and we don’t have them?
Because the further back we go, as we find older manuscripts and fragments, nothing of significance has changed. Of course you can argue that somewhere between the 1st and 3rd centuries the New Testament took a quantum leap; someone removed or changed important doctrines. It can be argued, but based on the evidence, that's not what we find.

KJO advocates argue that it is the only uncorrupted version out there; however, even the Textus Receptus doesn't differ that significantly from Siniaticus or Vaticanus. That is, in ways that will lead a person astray and keep them from being saved and living a Godly life. Modern interpreters have corrupted the Bible more than any ancient manuscripts. ;)
 

Dino246

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Thanks for saying us however some see but can't preceive hear yet cannot understand.even if our interpretation is based on speculation does not of itself make us wrong.the word is not a cook book, do this get this, it,,it's more like a hidden treasure,,,thus the name Israel means to contend with god,,,where a name such as Islam means to be obedient to god.Again scriputure is god not written words
No, Scripture is not God.
 

Dino246

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It was an implication only; and that based on the fact that you appear to believe in a god that is not Omnipotent and sovereign and loving; who is not able or motivated to preserve His unadulterated gospel message in a language that we can understand.
I believe in the one true God. I believe what He has done, and I avoid speculation about what He “could” do. I see no evidence that God inspired any translations of Scripture.
 

Dino246

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Yes, the Holy Spirit is able to minister to us adequately, and maybe even superbly, when we study the kjv.
The corollary is that you believe in an inferior god who is limited by the translation you use.
 

ResidentAlien

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Nothing enough to make a critical difference.

But I perceive you are KJV only so I won't waste my time. You strain out gnats and swallow camels. Too hard-headed to even make a dent.
 

Blik

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Absolutely question it, test it, study it and see for yourself.
That is exactly what I did. I find it a marvelous translation full of poetry and beauty. I find it reflects the thought of the majority of Christians in 1600 that was anti-semitic so I make allowances for this flaw. It is one of the main translations I check as I study, and usually use the KJV when I memorize scripture.
 

Dino246

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:rolleyes:Duh!,,,what is not of god?,,,Even evil is of god.
Please read more carefully. I stated, "Scripture is not God"; I did not state, "Scripture is not of God."