What is your preferred translation of The Bible and Why

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John146

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Verdict: Thoroughly brainwashed.
Again, I'm brainwashed to believe God preserved His word for us today? And I'm brainwashed? Trust me, I can take the accusations. I count it a blessing.
 

Nehemiah6

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The problem is in saying that only one translation is pure and holy and without error; and that everyone else must use it or they will become spiritually anemic, fall away or fall from grace. That's what cults do. They alone have the truth and everyone must fall in line with them or be doomed.
Now you are simply trying to create a bogus straw man so that you can hang the label of "cultist" on myself and others. This nonsense -- "...and that everyone else must use it or they will become spiritually anemic, fall away or fall from grace..." -- is simply your creation. Just like your wild claim in another thread that some Christians look to another god as their Savior.

Those who hold fast to the KJB simply state their position and also expose all the corrupt modern versions since 1881. What you do with that information is entirely up to you. There are some Christians who hate the truth about this matter. Each one will give account for themselves.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Please, tell me how? How is believing God's word is pure and holy and without error is a cult like belief? This is bizarre to me.
You don't believe God's word is pure, holy & error free. You believe a translation done by humans is pure, holy & error free.
You've restricted God from speaking in any other fashion. Despite the fact that God alone is the inventor & master of language.


Too much like work? Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman who needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. But then again, your Bible doesn’t have that verse does it.
Everyone's Bible has that verse. You don't understand early Middle English so you have no idea what it means.
You don't understand it, nor will you accept a correct interpretation in the English you do understand.
You trample on the advise given in the verse itself by following a false teaching regarding the Word of God.

If you truly wanted to understand God's word, you would either:

Learn early Middle English properly and use the KJV. Or
Use a translation in the English you already read, write & understand.
 

JaumeJ

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Now you are simply trying to create a bogus straw man so that you can hang the label of "cultist" on myself and others. This nonsense -- "...and that everyone else must use it or they will become spiritually anemic, fall away or fall from grace..." -- is simply your creation. Just like your wild claim in another thread that some Christians look to another god as their Savior.

Those who hold fast to the KJB simply state their position and also expose all the corrupt modern versions since 1881. What you do with that information is entirely up to you. There are some Christians who hate the truth about this matter. Each one will give account for themselves.
You really should follow the thread more closely...........
 

ResidentAlien

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Again, I'm brainwashed to believe God preserved His word for us today? And I'm brainwashed? Trust me, I can take the accusations. I count it a blessing.
Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists and Latter Day Saints all believe they're the only ones with the ultimate truth. Why do we all fall in line with them?
 

JaumeJ

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Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists and Latter Day Saints all believe they're the only ones with the ultimate truth. Why do we all fall in line with them?
Why do people fall into line with any named denomination. The names differ because their understandings and doctrines are counter to each other.

According to the Word Jesus Yeshua has united that other Flock with His Original Flock. He makes us all sons of Abraham. If we know who Abraham is, we know our Father.
 

JaumeJ

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It is time for my sleep Good night all, and may all be blessed in the love of our Father.
 

Dino246

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Another bizarre statement in my opinion. You think it's ok for me to believe that God's pure and holy words have been preserved, but then want me to think it's ok to read other versions when I believe they are corrupt? If I believe that the KJV is God's holy word, then all the other ones must not be. If one is, then the rest cannot be since they contain different words and even different truths. God is not the author of confusion. There's only two choices:

1. God has preserved His completed word for us today in a book.
2. God has not preserved His completed word for us today in a book.

Which side are you on?
Fallacy; false dichotomy. These are not the only options available.

Read whatever you like; just don’t imply that it’s wrong for others to read whatever they like.
 

Dino246

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Now you are simply trying to create a bogus straw man so that you can hang the label of "cultist" on myself and others. This nonsense -- "...and that everyone else must use it or they will become spiritually anemic, fall away or fall from grace..." -- is simply your creation. Just like your wild claim in another thread that some Christians look to another god as their Savior.

Those who hold fast to the KJB simply state their position and also expose all the corrupt modern versions since 1881. What you do with that information is entirely up to you. There are some Christians who hate the truth about this matter. Each one will give account for themselves.
Clearly, you haven’t been reading posts by ‘JustbyFaith’.
 

Nehemiah6

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John146

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You don't believe God's word is pure, holy & error free. You believe a translation done by humans is pure, holy & error free.
You've restricted God from speaking in any other fashion. Despite the fact that God alone is the inventor & master of language.




Everyone's Bible has that verse. You don't understand early Middle English so you have no idea what it means.
You don't understand it, nor will you accept a correct interpretation in the English you do understand.
You trample on the advise given in the verse itself by following a false teaching regarding the Word of God.


If you truly wanted to understand God's word, you would either:

Learn early Middle English properly and use the KJV. Or
Use a translation in the English you already read, write & understand.
Thanks for sharing your opinions.
 

John146

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Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists and Latter Day Saints all believe they're the only ones with the ultimate truth. Why do we all fall in line with them?
Are they all truth or is there just one truth? You're proving my point.
 

ResidentAlien

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Are they all truth or is there just one truth? You're proving my point.
I don't know if I am or not. What do you mean by "Are they all truth or is there just one truth?" Can you elaborate?
 

CS1

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I prefer KJVNKJVNIVNASBAMPNLT Large Print Red Letter Edition. BUT the one you actually read is the best :)
 

Dino246

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share the other options please...
Your options:

1. God has preserved His completed word for us today in a book.
2. God has not preserved His completed word for us today in a book.

One of many other options:

God has preserved His word in many written works.

That one options shoots apart your argument.
 

Diakonos

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As long as you do not believe folks are lost because they read a different translation of the Word than do you, fine.

Otherwise you have become your own version of the law I suspect. God bless you, and I like to believe it is not otherwise.
I never said or implied any such thing. I responded to the OP (my preferred translation and why). I hope you don't assume I am speaking against other translations.

If you do not understand the English employed in the KJV, fine, this is true for many. If this is the case, then by all means read another translation you do understand, but do not make absurd allegations sounding intellectual about the grammar of the KJV for it is very well written and understood by millions, just as your favorite is.
The old English is not a barrier for me at all; I understand the old English employed in the KJV just as well as other translations. My translation preference is not influenced by its readability.

The KJV is actually my 2nd option regarding preferred translations. It is an excellent translation. If you re-read my post, I said "Alongside the KJV, [the NASB] is the most literal/precise"...meaning overall, they are equally the two most accurate translations. This is not just my opinion; it is the consensus of virtually all linguistic scholars.

This 1st reason alone is enough for me to prefer the NASB as much as the KJV.
But considering the other 5 reasons I gave, it offers this handful of helpful indicators for expositors that no other translation offers. For these collective reasons, I prefer the NASB.
 

John146

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I don't know if I am or not. What do you mean by "Are they all truth or is there just one truth?" Can you elaborate?
Quote: Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists and Latter Day Saints all believe they're the only ones with the ultimate truth.

Can they all be the truth or just one be the truth? Or Christianity? Can many Bible be God's preserved word or only one?
 

John146

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Your options:

1. God has preserved His completed word for us today in a book.
2. God has not preserved His completed word for us today in a book.

One of many other options:

God has preserved His word in many written works.

That one options shoots apart your argument.
Notice I said completed word, not parts of it, here and there. Has God given us His preserved words in a single book? Yes or No? If yes, then where? If not, then end of discussion.
 

CS1

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Quote: Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists and Latter Day Saints all believe they're the only ones with the ultimate truth.

Can they all be the truth or just one be the truth? Or Christianity? Can many Bible be God's preserved word or only one?
Good Thing Jesus said HE is "THEE TRUTH". Not"a truth" but "the ONLY TRUTH".