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Thank you for your added and helpful insight into understanding "faith".
I hadn't thought about "endearment", but it certainly makes sense in the case of trusting in the One who will deliver you from the eternal LOF.
We should also realize the difference between "saving faith" and "lifestyle faith". And the Bible use either term. But the context will show which type of faith is the subject.
Saving faith is what results in regeneration, justification, possession of eternal life, and the sealing of the Holy Spirit.
Lifestyle faith is best seen in its lack with the Exodus generation. They continually didn't trust God to take care of them for their day to day needs. Complain, complain, complain.
2 Cor 5:7 - For we live by faith, not by sight.
Gal 3:11 - Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”
These 2 verses are about lifestyle faith. To "live by faith" refers to a lifestyle of faith.
I hadn't thought about "endearment", but it certainly makes sense in the case of trusting in the One who will deliver you from the eternal LOF.
We should also realize the difference between "saving faith" and "lifestyle faith". And the Bible use either term. But the context will show which type of faith is the subject.
Saving faith is what results in regeneration, justification, possession of eternal life, and the sealing of the Holy Spirit.
Lifestyle faith is best seen in its lack with the Exodus generation. They continually didn't trust God to take care of them for their day to day needs. Complain, complain, complain.
2 Cor 5:7 - For we live by faith, not by sight.
Gal 3:11 - Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”
These 2 verses are about lifestyle faith. To "live by faith" refers to a lifestyle of faith.
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I think of faith another way.
Faith is not static but dynamic. (It can grow as well as diminish, often depending on whether we grieve or quench the Holy Spirit)
We all start off with faith at the beginning of our journey and if our faith remains until the end we will be saved. Many think that they can muster up faith at anytime that they need it, but that is a deception and like exercise if we refuse to use it (exercise it) we certainly can lose it.
The end-times temptations and tribulation (called going through the fire) will find us either losing our faith (which was more than likely feigned or fake) or sustaining it (unfeigned faith).
Correct! I don't usually see kind of deep discernment!
Ouch. Jesus taught in John 5:24 that whosoever believes has (possesses) eternal life. Then, in John 10:28 He said that recipients of eternal life shall never perish.
So, salvation is secured permanently WHEN a person believes, according to Jesus. I cannot refuse His teaching.
Correct.
Jesus told us a parable about 4 soils. The 2nd soil did believe, but in times of testing, "fell away" from their faith. However, Jesus was clear that whoever bleieves possesses eternal life (Jn 5:24) and recipients of eternal life shall never perish (Jn 10:28).
Ouch. Jesus taught in John 5:24 that whosoever believes has (possesses) eternal life. Then, in John 10:28 He said that recipients of eternal life shall never perish.
So, salvation is secured permanently WHEN a person believes, according to Jesus. I cannot refuse His teaching.
Correct.
Jesus told us a parable about 4 soils. The 2nd soil did believe, but in times of testing, "fell away" from their faith. However, Jesus was clear that whoever bleieves possesses eternal life (Jn 5:24) and recipients of eternal life shall never perish (Jn 10:28).
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I am going into uncharted waters here.
The reason is that many of God's ways are past finding out until he reveals them to us (if he so chooses).
Everything cannot be explained and that is the reason for faith. (We have learned to trust him)
The donkey who spoke to Balaam was God's word not returning to him void.
The disciples of Jesus were selected by God to be the foundation of the New Jerusalem.
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Irregardless of their failures and weaknesses, God chose them from the beginning of the world for this important position, in magnitude to the prophets of the Old Testament. And God's word cannot return to him void as Jesus said in John 17 - I have lost none that you have given to me.
Thus we cannot definitively say that the disciples understood much of what Jesus taught at the time that they were taught. (It is implausible that the donkey understood what it was doing in saving the life of a prophet, Balaam)
Thus God's directive to Joshua, not to turn to the left or to the right, was not dependent on whether Joshua understood (in terms of intellect), the why's and the end all of his actions.
I believe that these situations are special cases when God calls us to fulfill a specific mission. Jonah was not required to understand why God would want to save a wicked Assyrian nation as Nineveh.
Abraham was not required to know why God wanted his son, Isaac as a burnt offering.
Paul was not required to understand how God was going to deliver him from his enemies in Jerusalem, on his way to Rome, especially when God's prophets warned him against going there. (Of course God later communicated to Paul that he would deliver him.)
So this type of faith might seem like blind faith, if we cannot put things together logically to make sense; but not so, God equips us with exactly what we need, no more, no less.
Thus FreeGrace2's post of trust is what we need to develop in order to live in the spirit realm.
After we have leaned to trust God, we need no reason to do what he tells us.
And that was Peter's sentiment - when he said we have given up everything for you, we would have no where to go. (After Jesus inquired of them whether they would leave him too.)
The disciples did not need to have a reason, except for trust.
(Sorry for the long post)
The reason is that many of God's ways are past finding out until he reveals them to us (if he so chooses).
Everything cannot be explained and that is the reason for faith. (We have learned to trust him)
The donkey who spoke to Balaam was God's word not returning to him void.
The disciples of Jesus were selected by God to be the foundation of the New Jerusalem.
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Irregardless of their failures and weaknesses, God chose them from the beginning of the world for this important position, in magnitude to the prophets of the Old Testament. And God's word cannot return to him void as Jesus said in John 17 - I have lost none that you have given to me.
Thus we cannot definitively say that the disciples understood much of what Jesus taught at the time that they were taught. (It is implausible that the donkey understood what it was doing in saving the life of a prophet, Balaam)
Thus God's directive to Joshua, not to turn to the left or to the right, was not dependent on whether Joshua understood (in terms of intellect), the why's and the end all of his actions.
I believe that these situations are special cases when God calls us to fulfill a specific mission. Jonah was not required to understand why God would want to save a wicked Assyrian nation as Nineveh.
Abraham was not required to know why God wanted his son, Isaac as a burnt offering.
Paul was not required to understand how God was going to deliver him from his enemies in Jerusalem, on his way to Rome, especially when God's prophets warned him against going there. (Of course God later communicated to Paul that he would deliver him.)
So this type of faith might seem like blind faith, if we cannot put things together logically to make sense; but not so, God equips us with exactly what we need, no more, no less.
Thus FreeGrace2's post of trust is what we need to develop in order to live in the spirit realm.
After we have leaned to trust God, we need no reason to do what he tells us.
And that was Peter's sentiment - when he said we have given up everything for you, we would have no where to go. (After Jesus inquired of them whether they would leave him too.)
The disciples did not need to have a reason, except for trust.
(Sorry for the long post)
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Paul went very far in asserting this
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The problem here is at what point is our belief immune from falling away. I agree with you that at a certain point we are secure.
But the problem is who determines that point. When God says that he goes to the dividing of the joints from the marrow or the spirit from the soul, it means that God can divide the indivisible.
Thus God cannot make a mistake from outward appearances or anything else. He goes right down to where it matters.
Today people think that when we raise our hands in church and pray a prayer for salvation or even when we get dipped under the water, we are saved. God is the one who searches the heart and make that determination, and maybe that is why Jesus in Revelation and also the Olivet discourse says that he who endures to the end will be saved.
The truth is "True Faith" endures.
Fake Faith does not endure.
James who was concerned that we would trivialize faith, says true faith will have appropriate works associated with it.
How do we know which one we have? (True ? or Fake ?)
We will not fall away. I have been very close to gung ho Christians for many many years and would swear for them, only to see in the last year to 2 years, some of them have fallen so far away, it scares me to think that it could also happen to me. (Although I think otherwise)
Yes there is a point that we are sealed or preserved but only God and possibly that individual knows. But the true believer will take Peter's advice to heart.
1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
The devil is not a walk-over and Job truly could attest to that.
Again Jesus says that it is not a slam dunk when he says this:
Luke_13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
PS: I am adding this as an afterthought:
I think it was Peter who said the devil believes and trembles.
Also, Jesus said there were some Pharisees who believed but because they did not want to be thrown out of the synagogue, they did not follow after him.
Thus it appears that Salvation is not a point in time but rather a journey from beginning to end.
Yes, there is nothing in the future that can result in loss of salvation.
I don't think we agree. From John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40,47 we read that those who believe possess eternal life. And from Jn 10:28 Jesus said that recipients of eternal life shall never perish.
He didn't include any exceptions.
Jesus was clear. At the POINT of saving faith, the believer possesses eternal life and shall never perish.
Slam dunk.
When God says that he goes to the dividing of the joints from the marrow or the spirit from the soul, it means that God can divide the indivisible.[/QUOTE]
Right. But that isn't about losing salvation.
Correct again. And those who have believed in the Savior shall never perish. So said Jesus.
The only question is whether the person trusted in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.
In the verse that says "endures to the end will be saved", the context is the 7 year Tribulation. So it isn't even about eternal soul salvation.
That is not true. What verse says this? I study like the Bereans. Show me the verse, please.
In fact, Jesus taught that believers can "fall away" from their faith. Luke 8:13
The Bible never ever says anything about "fake faith".
It does mention false brethren, who were devious and lied to get into the congregations of believers to spy them out.
No, his point was clear in 2:18. In order to demonstrate your faith, you HAVE TO have works.
It is clear from what a person has believed about Jesus Christ.
Jesus noted otherwise.
Based on what Jesus said about the second soil, the cause of falling away from the faith is because of testing/temptations that the person couldn't deal with appropriately.
Actually, we all not only CAN know, but SHOULD know. Paul made that very clear.
Eph 1:13,14
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
Notice the tense in v.13; "when you believed". Past tense. Point in time. At that POINT, the believer is "marked in Christ with a seal, the Holy Spirit.
v.14 is eternal security; The indwelling Spirit is a deposit GUARANTEEING the inheritance of the believer until the redemption of God's possession. A guarantee.
No, it was James. 2:19 And we need to note WHAT the demons believe. They believe that God is One, which is monotheism, which was particular to Jews, and foreign to Gentiles.
Also, Jesus said there were some Pharisees who believed but because they did not want to be thrown out of the synagogue, they did not follow after him.[/QUOTE]
And Jesus said recipients of eternal life (believers) shall never perish.
Rather, salvation is eternally secure from the POINT or MOMENT of saving faith in the Savior.
I don't think we agree. From John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40,47 we read that those who believe possess eternal life. And from Jn 10:28 Jesus said that recipients of eternal life shall never perish.
He didn't include any exceptions.
Jesus was clear. At the POINT of saving faith, the believer possesses eternal life and shall never perish.
Slam dunk.
When God says that he goes to the dividing of the joints from the marrow or the spirit from the soul, it means that God can divide the indivisible.[/QUOTE]
Right. But that isn't about losing salvation.
Correct again. And those who have believed in the Savior shall never perish. So said Jesus.
The only question is whether the person trusted in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.
In the verse that says "endures to the end will be saved", the context is the 7 year Tribulation. So it isn't even about eternal soul salvation.
That is not true. What verse says this? I study like the Bereans. Show me the verse, please.
In fact, Jesus taught that believers can "fall away" from their faith. Luke 8:13
The Bible never ever says anything about "fake faith".
It does mention false brethren, who were devious and lied to get into the congregations of believers to spy them out.
No, his point was clear in 2:18. In order to demonstrate your faith, you HAVE TO have works.
It is clear from what a person has believed about Jesus Christ.
Jesus noted otherwise.
Based on what Jesus said about the second soil, the cause of falling away from the faith is because of testing/temptations that the person couldn't deal with appropriately.
Actually, we all not only CAN know, but SHOULD know. Paul made that very clear.
Eph 1:13,14
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
Notice the tense in v.13; "when you believed". Past tense. Point in time. At that POINT, the believer is "marked in Christ with a seal, the Holy Spirit.
v.14 is eternal security; The indwelling Spirit is a deposit GUARANTEEING the inheritance of the believer until the redemption of God's possession. A guarantee.
No, it was James. 2:19 And we need to note WHAT the demons believe. They believe that God is One, which is monotheism, which was particular to Jews, and foreign to Gentiles.
Also, Jesus said there were some Pharisees who believed but because they did not want to be thrown out of the synagogue, they did not follow after him.[/QUOTE]
And Jesus said recipients of eternal life (believers) shall never perish.
Rather, salvation is eternally secure from the POINT or MOMENT of saving faith in the Savior.
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I know that it is possible that we may never be able to reconcile our differences and that is perfectly OK. There are hundreds of different sects of Christianity today in the world.
But I am willing to state what I believe and why I believe it.
But first I would like to ask a question.
(By the way fake means feigned and feigned faith is mentioned several times in the bible)
Also I am unable to find - "saving faith" in the bible.
So the question is how would you interpret this verse. Jesus here was addressing Peter.
Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
But I am willing to state what I believe and why I believe it.
But first I would like to ask a question.
(By the way fake means feigned and feigned faith is mentioned several times in the bible)
Also I am unable to find - "saving faith" in the bible.
So the question is how would you interpret this verse. Jesus here was addressing Peter.
Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
Precious friend, IF these are not "saving faith" then what, Exactly, Are They?:
Eph 2:8 "For by Grace Are ye Saved Through faith..."
Rom 4:5 "...his faith is counted for righteousness." Saved, Correct?
Gal 3:8 "...God Would Justify the heathen through faith..." Saved, Correct?
GRACE, Peace, And JOY, through faith...
Eph 2:8 "For by Grace Are ye Saved Through faith..."
Rom 4:5 "...his faith is counted for righteousness." Saved, Correct?
Gal 3:8 "...God Would Justify the heathen through faith..." Saved, Correct?
GRACE, Peace, And JOY, through faith...
Amen! Overwhelmingly Verified And Confirmed By 12 Dozen Scriptures!:
God's OPERATION On all HIS New-born babes In Christ!
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God's Eternal Assurance!!
GRACE, Peace, And JOY...
God's OPERATION On all HIS New-born babes In Christ!
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God's Eternal Assurance!!
GRACE, Peace, And JOY...
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Precious friend:
There Are Three Different Tenses In God's ETERNAL Salvation:
"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not
trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who delivered
us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in Whom we trust that He
will yet deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9-10 KJB!) =
Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recog-
nizing These THREE, And, Also, God's Differences Between
"HIS Relationship With us," And "our fellowship with HIM!"?
God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:
► faith ◄
1) Past Tense = "...God delivered us from so great a death..."
[in "A Moment Of Time"]:
God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With
those who humbly repent and:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,
HIS Death (Precious BLOOD), Burial, And HIS Resurrection,
According To The Scriptures!
(1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)
"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits
Of HIS ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:
All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1)
This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8) =
Justification and Spiritual Sanctification
(2 Corinthians 1:10a cp Romans 3:24)
(More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's ETERNAL Assurance!
And here:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!)
► faith ◄
God's ETERNAL Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:
►► love ◄◄
(2) Present Tense = "...God doth deliver us...":
All believers Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's Payment For the above Penalty of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform
for Him, having "been Called into fellowship With Him!"
(Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9) Amen?:
We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2),
for Grace Deliverance From the power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b) = personal sanctification:
(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:
"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, work-man that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!"
(2 Timothy 2:15 KJB)
Eternal Results: reward [or loss *] (1 Corinthians 3:8-15),
ruling and reigning [or not *] With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be
At The Judgment Day!
* More study: Finishing The Race
►► love ◄◄:
►►► Blessed HOPE! ◄◄◄
(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":
CHRIST's Glorification of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-57;
2 Corinthians 1:10c). Hallelujah! Praise HIS Excellent Name!!
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Conclusion:
BIG Differences Between the THREE tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And our fellowship! Correct?
Please Be Very Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!:
There Are Three Different Tenses In God's ETERNAL Salvation:
"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not
trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who delivered
us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in Whom we trust that He
will yet deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9-10 KJB!) =
Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recog-
nizing These THREE, And, Also, God's Differences Between
"HIS Relationship With us," And "our fellowship with HIM!"?
God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:
► faith ◄
1) Past Tense = "...God delivered us from so great a death..."
[in "A Moment Of Time"]:
God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With
those who humbly repent and:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,
HIS Death (Precious BLOOD), Burial, And HIS Resurrection,
According To The Scriptures!
(1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)
"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits
Of HIS ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:
All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1)
This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8) =
Justification and Spiritual Sanctification
(2 Corinthians 1:10a cp Romans 3:24)
(More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's ETERNAL Assurance!
And here:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!)
► faith ◄
God's ETERNAL Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:
►► love ◄◄
(2) Present Tense = "...God doth deliver us...":
All believers Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's Payment For the above Penalty of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform
for Him, having "been Called into fellowship With Him!"
(Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9) Amen?:
We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2),
for Grace Deliverance From the power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b) = personal sanctification:
(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:
"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, work-man that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!"
(2 Timothy 2:15 KJB)
Eternal Results: reward [or loss *] (1 Corinthians 3:8-15),
ruling and reigning [or not *] With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be
At The Judgment Day!
* More study: Finishing The Race
►► love ◄◄:
►►► Blessed HOPE! ◄◄◄
(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":
CHRIST's Glorification of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-57;
2 Corinthians 1:10c). Hallelujah! Praise HIS Excellent Name!!
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Conclusion:
BIG Differences Between the THREE tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And our fellowship! Correct?
Please Be Very Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!:
Faith is what God shows you, what God tells you, and it is true. While you wait for God to reveal the truth of these things in your circumstance, you lie down under the truth that He is your Father and He will reward you with His presence; this is the substance of our hope. When you are in that condition of reliance, and vulnerable as you are, inevitably God arises in your circumstance, and it is His presence that changes everything; this is the evidence of the unseen. This is a way of life. The just shall live by it.
Pure Nonsense.
Which is EXACTLY WHAT WE DO every time we light off one of our rockets (Remember Challenger??). In the space program there's NEVER BEEN ANY EVIDENCE that you weren't gonna DIE in the effort. Just ask Sally Ride.
WHich is EXACTLY what I did back in '16, after the company closed (Bankrupcy). I Hoped that whomever bought us would hire me on (He did).
BINGO!!!
BIBLICAL FAITH is NEVER BLIND, and ALWAYS based on a revelation by God to you (Rom 10:17). Saving FAITH is gifted (Eph 2:8,9). "Belief" has no substance, and is evidence of nothing except how you feel at the time. FAITH is God's WORD TO YOU, and you can put your weight on it, and it'll hold you (it's held me for going on 59 years now).
Which is EXACTLY WHAT WE DO every time we light off one of our rockets (Remember Challenger??). In the space program there's NEVER BEEN ANY EVIDENCE that you weren't gonna DIE in the effort. Just ask Sally Ride.
WHich is EXACTLY what I did back in '16, after the company closed (Bankrupcy). I Hoped that whomever bought us would hire me on (He did).
BINGO!!!
BIBLICAL FAITH is NEVER BLIND, and ALWAYS based on a revelation by God to you (Rom 10:17). Saving FAITH is gifted (Eph 2:8,9). "Belief" has no substance, and is evidence of nothing except how you feel at the time. FAITH is God's WORD TO YOU, and you can put your weight on it, and it'll hold you (it's held me for going on 59 years now).
Lots of people think of faith in a sort of works mentality. Like My faith will do the job. However, faith is something gifted by God and did not come from our works. You could substitute the word Jesus for faith and get a little closer to the actual meaning. When the Bible says your faith has saved you, think of it more like your Jesus has saved you. Without him you would not have had the faith because if you have faith it is because he gave it to you. Jesus is called the faithful witness. If you are saved by faith, it was God's action and thank him for it. Ask him for his faith if you want more because he is the source of faith.
It's not complicated.
In fact, it's so simple that a child can understand it.
It's like drinking water.
Is that difficult?
It's like eating bread.
Faith is like walking through a door.
How hard is that?
These analogies of faith were given by Jesus to you, personally. He gave the book for each and every person to benefit from in the most profound way.
The term "faith" is the same word for "believe."
If you are sincerely asking, then you will gladly take me up on an easy assignment.
Just read the Gospel of John (KJV).
Take one chapter at a time and underline each time the words believe (th, s, ed,) in it's various tenses is used. Take the number of times and put that at the top of the page of each and every chapter. When you are done, take the total sum and post it here. It should be significant to you if you don't make a mistake. You aren't allowed to use a software program or concordance for the answer. This must be done on a regular hard copy of the King James Holy Bible the long way to be of help. By the end you will know what faith/believe is in a way that will be of great benefit.
Have a blessed weekend.
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In fact, it's so simple that a child can understand it.
It's like drinking water.
Is that difficult?
It's like eating bread.
Faith is like walking through a door.
How hard is that?
These analogies of faith were given by Jesus to you, personally. He gave the book for each and every person to benefit from in the most profound way.
The term "faith" is the same word for "believe."
If you are sincerely asking, then you will gladly take me up on an easy assignment.
Just read the Gospel of John (KJV).
Take one chapter at a time and underline each time the words believe (th, s, ed,) in it's various tenses is used. Take the number of times and put that at the top of the page of each and every chapter. When you are done, take the total sum and post it here. It should be significant to you if you don't make a mistake. You aren't allowed to use a software program or concordance for the answer. This must be done on a regular hard copy of the King James Holy Bible the long way to be of help. By the end you will know what faith/believe is in a way that will be of great benefit.
Have a blessed weekend.
Health and Happiness
Correct. FAITH = BELIEF = TRUST.
Yet we have people trying to complicate things and tie faith into a knot. There is also a group of Christians who insist that saving faith is a gift from God. But since God wants all men to be saved, He would simply give that gift to all (if indeed this was the case). But the truth of the matter is that God has given the Gospel of Christ to mankind in order to generate faith in Christ and His finished work of redemption. Hence "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (the Gospel). (Rom 10:17; 1 Peter 1:23-25) Therefore sinners are justified by grace through faith + NOTHING.
Yet we have people trying to complicate things and tie faith into a knot. There is also a group of Christians who insist that saving faith is a gift from God. But since God wants all men to be saved, He would simply give that gift to all (if indeed this was the case). But the truth of the matter is that God has given the Gospel of Christ to mankind in order to generate faith in Christ and His finished work of redemption. Hence "Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (the Gospel). (Rom 10:17; 1 Peter 1:23-25) Therefore sinners are justified by grace through faith + NOTHING.
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"Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:" Here is a scripture which shows faith being very similar or the same as believing, as you have mentioned. Notice where the faith comes from, not ourselves. The faith is the 'faith of Jesus', so faith and believing are indeed gifts from God. Hearing is by the word of God. As you have mentioned this is the gospel. It is also Jesus, since he is the Word of God. So hearing is by Jesus.
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I only determined that the term "saving faith" is not explicitly stated in the bible.
I could also call "faith" - "power faith". I can do this because Jesus explicitly stated that if we have faith as small as mustard seed, we could move the mountain into the sea.
So "Power faith" would seem to be very appropriate also. This then leads to men qualifying the word "faith" with every known modifier that seems appropriate. The bible says that not one word should be added or subtracted to the word of God, because God is perfect (we are imperfect) and trying to make things clearer or better often leads to trouble.
King Saul was booted from his kingdom because of this problem.
God told him to kill every man woman and child and all their animals.
But Saul thought he could better God's command to him, and save the best of the unblemished sheep in order to make sacrifices and burnt offerings to God. This seemed most noble and exemplary.
But God booted him from his kingdom for not following his instructions to the letter or explicitly.
There was a man of God who God sent to Jeroboam. God gave him explicit instructions concerning what to do.
The man of God instead listened to an old prophet of God telling him that God instructed him to instruct the man of God to do otherwise.
The man of God was killed by a lion, very soon afterwards for listening to another prophet of God.
Let me know if I am off-track somewhere in my thinking.