The Heresy of Perfectionism

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Immortalization of the saints — “The belief that only those believers moving in the truth of the Latter Rain restoration, not necessarily all in the church, will attain an immortal state before Christ returns.” .
hello?
do we know who we are dealing with now?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Almost everything you post shows you know nothing about me.

Jesus told the Pharisees to have righteous judgment.Do not judge the outer expression of what you think you see, but judge righteously.

I think you really need to take His advice.
I know the pharisees well. And you act just like them. Using them as an reason to excuse your anger is no excuse. You do not have truth in you. Your trying to teach a false gospel of works. You don't see any of us getting angry do you? Why? We are secure in our faith. We don't need to be angry. Maybe because you are not so sure of your own salvation this is why you are so mad? Then again, If we have to earn it. We could never know we have it. How could we know if we will live up to the standard?
 
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5 copy and paste posts, and not one single scripture.yep that seems about right.
 
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he's a PASTOR????????
Thats what he told me. I know. I could not believe it myself. Then again. I have seen some angry pastors out there.
 
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I know the pharisees well. And you act just like them. Using them as an reason to excuse your anger is no excuse. You do not have truth in you. Your trying to teach a false gospel of works. You don't see any of us getting angry do you? Why? We are secure in our faith. We don't need to be angry. Maybe because you are not so sure of your own salvation this is why you are so mad? Then again, If we have to earn it. We could never know we have it. How could we know if we will live up to the standard?
Jesus said those that DO His word would be saved. Take it up with Him
 
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AnandaHya

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I'm sorry guys but the hateful attitude and name calling has been going on for a long time against a variety of different people with very little provocation. All you have to do is disagree with Zone and you are automatically labeled a heretic, then ridiculed. I have seen this time after time after time. As I stated before, hes giving as good as he gets too, anybody with eyes in ALL of these forums readin all this train wreck can see it......THATS MY POINT..
think the missing train tracks part is coming up yet?



and for the record I don't run in a crew and I call it as I see it and I admit I tend to skim over Zone's post sometimes because even if I were to call her on them I doubt she'd listen because she feels that is what God has told her to do.

I think it is something that happens with all new people who come blazing in to get questioned to find out where they stand and what they believe in especially when they come in and start declaring people are condemned, need to be perfect, wolves, swine, dogs, without the Holy Spirit, heretics, lacking discernment, unintelligent, unworthy of respect, etc.

Eventually if you stand firm in your belief that Jesus is Lord and Savior and HIS SALVATION and through your words and actions show the fruit of the Holy Spirit you find people who will welcome you as brothers and sisters in Christ. that at least is what I have found. If you learn and grow in Christ that is good, if you decide to fight and ridicule others, well eventually those people tend to get banned. Oh and heretics and wolves and trolls get the boot too.

therefore if they have been here awhile then most would consider them brethren in Christ learning to be obedient to Him. I for one think mercy, love and compassion and forgiveness and giving the person the benefit of doubt and asking for clarification would be good policy instead of assuming offense and hurt is meant by another's words
 
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What I see is everyone ignoring Zones attacks, and then defend her if anyone dares to call he out on it.

I mean geesh, how many people have posted correction to FOTA for speaking the truth?
How about your attacks?? and your accusations?? What is it a do as I say not as a do thread?
 

zone

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5 copy and paste posts, and not one single scripture.yep that seems about right.
scripture?

i'm showing what your Five Fold Ministry really is, dear.
care to help?
 
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Originally Posted by zone

Immortalization of the saints — “The belief that only those believers moving in the truth of the Latter Rain restoration, not necessarily all in the church, will attain an immortal state before Christ returns.” .
hello?
do we know who we are dealing with now?
Here we go...assigning other people beliefs, and or teachings to those she opposes without merit. Sounds like a tactic of the enemy.....does it not?
 
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scripture?

i'm showing what your Five Fold Ministry really is, dear.
care to help?
What you call 5 fold ministry and what God calls it are 2 very different things.
 
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Who but satan would be against God's chosen ministers?
LMAO. And who but satans ministers would think satan was against him?

Gods ministers knows satan has no power. and does not need to defend themselves. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.


You have alot to learn my friend.
From your actions it appears the person who told me you were a new believer is dead on. Because a seasoned minister of God would never act like you do. The again, you do teach a false Gospel. so I am not sure your a minister of God at all.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Did anyone stop to think that 4runner mighgt not have enguaged in this behaviour if not provoked to do so by Zone's obsession with calling everyone a heretic who disagrees with her in the slightest?
Hey Fire. I have nothing against you my friend. But 4 runner started on me from day one because I took question to what he was teaching. He did not like me questioning him, so he went on a wrant. I am not defending anyone's actions. I am just saying 4 runner is getting what he started.
 
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and for the record I don't run in a crew and I call it as I see it and I admit I tend to skim over Zone's post sometimes because even if I were to call her on them I doubt she'd listen because she feels that is what God has told her to do.
Zone doesnt believe God told her anything, she doesnt believe God speaks at all to anyone

I think it is something that happens with all new people who come blazing in to get questioned to find out where they stand and what they believe in especially when they come in and start declaring people are condemned, need to be perfect, wolves, swine, dogs, without the Holy Spirit, heretics, lacking discernment, unintelligent, unworthy of respect, etc.
Telling people the truth of righteousness isnt condemning people. That is where you are truly confused

Eventually if you stand firm in your belief that Jesus is Lord and Savior and HIS SALVATION and through your words and actions show the fruit of the Holy Spirit you find people who will welcome you as brothers and sisters in Christ. that at least is what I have found. If you learn and grow in Christ that is good, if you decide to fight and ridicule others, well eventually those people tend to get banned. Oh and heretics and wolves and trolls get the boot too.
Is Jesus Lord???? Or just Savior as some claim?

therefore if they have been here awhile then most would consider them brethren in Christ learning to be obedient to Him. I for one think mercy, love and compassion and forgiveness and giving the person the benefit of doubt and asking for clarification would be good policy instead of assuming offense and hurt is meant by another's words
I totally agree.
 
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Ramon

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LMAO. And who but satans ministers would think satan was against him?

Gods ministers knows satan has no power. and does not need to defend themselves. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.


You have alot to learn my friend.
From your actions it appears the person who told me you were a new believer is dead on. Because a seasoned minister of God would never act like you do. The again, you do teach a false Gospel. so I am not sure your a minister of God at all.
How can you speak of his actions when you use a curse word? This whole thread has become more of the heresy. Surely, by people who don't desire to be mature, but like wild animals.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I posted more scripture than anyone in this thread. I know God's word is on my side on this issue, and you do too, that is why you hate me.

The pharisees memorized scripture. and could quote it verbatem. Posting scripture doe snot mean you are teaching truth. far from it.
 
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Hey Fire. I have nothing against you my friend. But 4 runner started on me from day one because I took question to what he was teaching. He did not like me questioning him, so he went on a wrant. I am not defending anyone's actions. I am just saying 4 runner is getting what he started.
I wholly expect for people like you and Zone to rage anainst the truth
 
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Jesus said those that DO His word would be saved. Take it up with Him
Having faith in him IS DOING HIS WORD.

Scripture says we have eternal life not conditional life. You take it up with God why he is an indian giver, a liar and a thief (thats what you make him out to be)!
 
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Post them and I will address them
post them? Every post you make is them. Did you not say Zone needs to find truth before she wakes up and gets a horrible suprise? Or how about telling me I preach a gospel of Satan?

So its ok for you but no one else should do this?

See the cat calling the kettle here?

If you don't like to recieve it. Dont dish it out.