"What must I do to be saved?"

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BroTan

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Jesus was addressing his disciples, telling them that if they would keep his commandments, they would enter into a good and abundant life, as they sojourn here on earth. If the "life" were to mean eternal life, then it would suggest that eternal life would be awarded for their good works, and that is a false doctrine.
I notice you cut out the beginning part, the first question. Let's go back into Matthew 19: 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. People we must realize, that it is the keeping of God’s holy laws that separates the righteous from the unrighteous and the Saints from the Sinners. (Titus: 3:8) This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. You must learn (by the word of God) what God expects of you and maintain his expectations to the end, if you expect to be saved. Jesus says in (Matt. 5:16) Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. You are supposed to glorify your Father in heaven, and let your light shine before men.
 

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Amen! You had better "keep EVERY one of them," OR: you "will NOT enter into
life" = YES, "take heed":

"teaching them (you) to observe ALL things whatsoever I Have COMMANDED you"
(Mat 28:20)

1) Have you "SOLD All" yet? IF not, you "will NOT enter into life!"

Christ taught the Twelve "Be perfect, forsake ALL, sell what you have, take
up your cross, and follow Me." (Matthew_5:48, 16:24, 19:21; Mark_8:34; 10:21;
Luke_6:40, 9:23, 12:33, 14:33, 18:22)

2) Why, then, do you not Immediately OBEY this, so you can "enter into life"?

The Twelve had absolutely no problem at all! (Acts_2:44-45 and 4:32)

3) Who had a BIG Problem, Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:1-11), Correct?

So, now what do we do to "enter life"??? Disobey, and NOT "SELL ALL"??????????

Maybe This?:

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Of course, Most are not even interested?

Jesus said in (Matt. 16:24-27) (v.24) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, if any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. That was the Lord’s burden, to die on the cross for the sins of man. Now as we read earlier every man must bear his own burden, and what is your burden? (v.25) For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. You must give up your life in this world; you must not get caught up in the cares of this world. You must bring forth-good fruits of faith by keeping God’s commandments, statues, and judgments. (v.26) For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Some of the great patriarchs in (Heb.11) gave up a lot, some even their lives in exchange for their soul. You see they had great faith (belief) that their souls (bodies) would be raised at the first resurrection. And some of you won’t even give up some of the littlest things like, going to church on Sunday, the pagan holidays of Christmas and Easter, praying to the Virgin Mary, I could go on and on. And most so-called Christians know these rituals have nothing to do with Jesus and the Bible, but a lot of work get put into them. But do they understand that they are offensive to God? Maybe it’s because they have more faith in man than God, maybe it’s because they fear how man is going to treat them, and don’t fear God. But listen up; (v.27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his holy angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Now these are the words of Jesus (the Son of man), you know the savior of the world. He said that when he comes he is going to judge every man according to his works. Don't be deceived thinking you all you need to do is have faith in the Lord and you will be saved?
 

ForestGreenCook

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^^^ Calvinist mishandling of the scriptures. ^^^

God wants everyone to be saved, and anyone has the capacity to believe the gospel, which is why we are to preach it to them.

I don't care what Calvin does with the scriptures. Your interpretation of them will not harmonize with other scriptures.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Romans 10:13 makes it pretty clear which comes first.

Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Whosoever does not include the natural man, before he has been born again (1 Cor 2:14). And all of those that have been born again are delivered (saved) here in time by calling upon the Lord.
 

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Romans 10:13 makes it pretty clear which comes first.

Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Read the next verse. The natural man cannot discern the things of the Spirit, and thinks them to be foolishness. Therefore he cannot believe in the things of the Spirit.
 

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The question posted is...What must I do to be saved? It is not asking.. What must God do that I might be saved?

God has already done his doing, before the question was asked, else he would not have asked it.
 

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God has already done his doing, before the question was asked, else he would not have asked it.
God has already done his doing, before the question was asked, else he would not have asked it.
I agree that the impetus for salvation is God. But as a part of making it effectual in an individual there will be a response from the individual.
 
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I don't care what Calvin does with the scriptures.
You have said that you are a member of the Primitive Baptist denomination. They are strongly Calvinist. Maybe you should read Calvin, you might like him.

Your interpretation of them will not harmonize with other scriptures.
That's not true.
 

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"What must I do to be saved?"
This was the question posed by the Philippian Jailor after witnessing prison doors miraculously opened and prisoners miraculously set free from there bonds.

Jesus' death on the cross made possible the opening of spiritual prison doors and release from the bonds of sin for every man, women, and child ever born. The answer of Paul and Silas to the Philippian Jailor makes this abundantly clear...
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31).

The Gospel of Salvation is clear, simple, and elementary. Stand firm and do not be swayed from the glorious truth of such great salvation bountiful and free!

Isaiah 55
1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.
That's a fascinating question. What tone of voice do you think the jailer asked that in? Jail is big business, you now, I realize that the justice department is separate from the accounting office, but a massive amount of money changes hands in court. In fact, if the judicial system was accounted for in IRS business, it would be the largest percentage of the gross domestic product.

People know that some arrestees are innocent, and occasionally one is found not guilty and released by a judge. The police might be peripherally aware that they're cuffing and stuffing citizens who have a right to be presumed innocent. Also, with the present chaos, we might be inclined to let them win at that under "The Jack Ryan Defonce" *they're only acting out the cuffie stuffie practice routines from their training.

But what does the jailer have to do to be saved? He isn't the cop who made the arrest, he's only the turnkey keeping the defendant chained up while waiting for the trial date.

You're deep! I think I'll spend time faithfully praying and meditating on this while I compare the Philippian Jailer's question to the story of the Rich Young Ruler.
 

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You have said that you are a member of the Primitive Baptist denomination. They are strongly Calvinist. Maybe you should read Calvin, you might like him.
Some have told me that Calvin believes absolutism, that is he believes that all choices and actions of mankind are predestined by God, in which we do not believe.
 

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This is about the young man heart
Yes.

his heart toward the lord was not all the way in place.
Correct.

he did right by keeping the law from his youth up
Obviously not. He neglected the most important part.

Another important thing to understand concerning the Baptism brother and sisters. one must be submerge under water fully.
We are saved by the blood of Jesus and it alone. It's not about any ritual or magical chant.
 

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I agree that the impetus for salvation is God. But as a part of making it effectual in an individual there will be a response from the individual.
Yes.

Acts 17:30
“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:”
 

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ForestGreenCook said:
I don't care what Calvin does with the scriptures.
You have said that you are a member of the Primitive Baptist denomination. They are strongly Calvinist. Maybe you should read Calvin
:eek: I hope his PBD pastor isn't reading his postings. :oops:
 

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Some have told me that Calvin believes absolutism, that is he believes that all choices and actions of mankind are predestined by God, in which we do not believe.
Calvinism and Absolutism are a premier example of the language problem of "changing word meanings". Absolutism is a political term meaning that the King is an absolute final authority. Calvin by contrast believed in predestination, and his ideas are called absolutist in the sense of immutable fate.
 

BroTan

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Yes.


Correct.


Obviously not. He neglected the most important part.


We are saved by the blood of Jesus and it alone. It's not about any ritual or magical chant.

Now, you show me in the Bible where Jesus had a change a mind when said this. "And he said unto them, go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:15-16).
 

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Now, you show me in the Bible where Jesus had a change a mind when said this. "And he said unto them, go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:15-16).
Oh! No, sweet prince, I assure you that the word change brigade has no interest in whether or not God changes His mind, or in whether Jesus of Nazareth, ostensibly the King of Israel, ever retracts a statement in parliament! Ha H ha, very sorry! I was referring to spiritual discourse from a COMPLETLY different modernist type of academic point of origin. The sort of thing an aspiring Bible scholar has to sweep off the table much like cobwebs to get o the package!
 

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Oh! No, sweet prince, I assure you that the word change brigade has no interest in whether or not God changes His mind, or in whether Jesus of Nazareth, ostensibly the King of Israel, ever retracts a statement in parliament! Ha ha ha, very sorry! I was referring to spiritual discourse from a COMPLETLY different modernist type of academic point of origin. The sort of thing an aspiring Bible scholar has to sweep off the table much like cobwebs to get to the package!
 

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Don't be deceived thinking you all you need to do is have faith in the Lord and you will be saved?
Not deceived, but brain-Washed By The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided:

Humble Christ, on the earth, To Israel, 12 apostles, Under The Law/covenants
/Prophecy:

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!") or perish
(Luk 13:3,5 Mar 1:4 Luk_3:3, 24:47}
+
2) believe the gospel of the kingdom (Mat 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14,15)
+
3) be baptized "For the remission of sin" (Mar 1:4 Luk 3:3, 7:29:30, 24:47;
Act 2:38)
+
4) "show works meet for repentance" (Mat 3:8), because,
+
5) "to the twelve tribes of Israel," "faith Without works is dead"
(Jam 1:1, 2:17,26)
+
6) "keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Mat 19:17)
+
7) "one thing thou lackest...sell ALL/take up cross/follow Jesus"
(Mar 10:17-23):
"faith PLUS works!"​

earthly prophecy/LAW/covenants ( Previous dispensation of God... )

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

Glorified Christ, From Heaven, To ONE apostle and His 'ONE Body,' Under Grace /
Mystery
( Current Dispensation of God ):

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!"):

"Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God,​
and faith toward our LORD Jesus Christ." (Acts 20:21)​
2) believe (with ALL the heart, trust, place 100% faith in) The Gospel Of The
Grace Of God:


"For I delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received, how​
That Christ Died for our sins According To The Scriptures; And That​
He Was Buried, and that He Rose Again the third day According To​
The Scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

3) "By Grace Are ye Saved Through faith..." Apart from All works!!:

Plus Nothing!:

"...and That not of yourselves: It Is The Gift Of God: Not​
of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)​

Plus Nothing, Confirmed!:

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, But According
To His Mercy He Saved us, By The Washing of Regeneration, and​
Renewing of The Holy Ghost" (Titus 3:5)​

Plus Nothing, Further Confirmed!:

"Who Hath Saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according​
to our works, but According To His Own Purpose And Grace, Which Was​
Given us In Christ Jesus before the world began" (2 Timothy 1:9)​

↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ The LORD ( With Grace And Mercy!!! ) Is All we need Today to Be Saved!! Amen!

Conclusion:
Not deceived, but brain-Washed By The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided! Amen?
--------------------------------------------
Also Three Tenses Of God's Deliverance (Salvation) + good works for rewards:

Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).
+
RICH Blessings
 

BroTan

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Not deceived, but brain-Washed By The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided:

Humble Christ, on the earth, To Israel, 12 apostles, Under The Law/covenants
/Prophecy:

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!") or perish
(Luk 13:3,5 Mar 1:4 Luk_3:3, 24:47}
+
2) believe the gospel of the kingdom (Mat 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14,15)
+
3) be baptized "For the remission of sin" (Mar 1:4 Luk 3:3, 7:29:30, 24:47;
Act 2:38)
+
4) "show works meet for repentance" (Mat 3:8), because,
+
5) "to the twelve tribes of Israel," "faith Without works is dead"
(Jam 1:1, 2:17,26)
+
6) "keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Mat 19:17)
+
7) "one thing thou lackest...sell ALL/take up cross/follow Jesus"
(Mar 10:17-23):
"faith PLUS works!"​

earthly prophecy/LAW/covenants ( Previous dispensation of God... )

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

Glorified Christ, From Heaven, To ONE apostle and His 'ONE Body,' Under Grace /
Mystery
( Current Dispensation of God ):

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!"):

"Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God,​
and faith toward our LORD Jesus Christ." (Acts 20:21)​
2) believe (with ALL the heart, trust, place 100% faith in) The Gospel Of The
Grace Of God:


"For I delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received, how​
That Christ Died for our sins According To The Scriptures; And That​
He Was Buried, and that He Rose Again the third day According To​
The Scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

3) "By Grace Are ye Saved Through faith..." Apart from All works!!:

Plus Nothing!:

"...and That not of yourselves: It Is The Gift Of God: Not​
of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)​

Plus Nothing, Confirmed!:

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, But According
To His Mercy He Saved us, By The Washing of Regeneration, and​
Renewing of The Holy Ghost" (Titus 3:5)​

Plus Nothing, Further Confirmed!:

"Who Hath Saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according​
to our works, but According To His Own Purpose And Grace, Which Was​
Given us In Christ Jesus before the world began" (2 Timothy 1:9)​

↑ ↑ ↑ ↑ The LORD ( With Grace And Mercy!!! ) Is All we need Today to Be Saved!! Amen!

Conclusion:
Not deceived, but brain-Washed By The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided! Amen?
--------------------------------------------
Also Three Tenses Of God's Deliverance (Salvation) + good works for rewards:

Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).
+
RICH Blessings

I agree with somethings, but when the bible speaks of laws we no longer have to keep, it is speaking of the sacrificial laws. These laws were a school master pointing us to the fact that Jesus would be sacrificed for our sins. Since Jesus died we are no longer under a school master, (required to offer up bulls and goats for our sins).

Now we must believe (have faith) Jesus died for us (Hebrews 10:4,9-10) 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Jesus only died once, so if we willingly break God's law, after accepting Jesus, our reward will be eternal damnation (Hebrews 10:26-27) 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Let us avoid this at all costs, seeking a better reward. Jesus will return real soon And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (Revelation 22:12).