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[Flannery]

I might dismiss it if it appeared only once, but "Bat Mitzvah" is for girls; "Bar Mitzvah" is for boys. "Bar" is son of; "Bat" is daughter of.

A Bar Mitzvah, as least in modern Jewish culture, is a coming-of-age celebration where the boy demonstrates that he knows enough of the old covenant to function as an adult within the mores of Jewish society.

Candlemas? Never heard of it.

Bar Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah actually both mean something else too, but you'd need to be paying closer attention to the present Soviet War in Ukraine than to follow Snowden on the psychology channel to have spotted it. You should also finish reading Alexander I. Solginitzen, it doesn't look like you've even gotten started.

People like you crop up in my life a lot. I already know what you're saying, you have a whole shelf crammed full of big fat chapter books by Tom Clancy and a large number of scholarly references with different doctrinal edits of the Bible in English, maybe a classical language or two for show, although you hid the copy of Alan Bloom, who was too liberal for you.

Don't remind me, I already know. You have this huge giant well-rounded well-educated mind and are an expert on non-profit corporations of Bible learners in the United States. You don't recognize other countries.

Due to my geographical setting and overseas educational pursuits as well as former bouts of employment (work is the curse of the drinking class) I'm way way way way way more worldly than you are, and I study international treaty law instead of restricting myself solely to the civil war and steel milling for the National Rifle Association's annual poster model fundraising contest. You DON'T recognize other countries! So sorry, I'm from this other country and I honestly don't recognize other churches, copesthetic?

My Navy Hymn is different than your Navy Hymn. That's all it is.

 

[Dino246]

Bar Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah actually both mean something else too, but you'd need to be paying closer attention to the present Soviet War in Ukraine than to follow Snowden on the psychology channel to have spotted it. You should also finish reading Alexander I. Solginitzen, it doesn't look like you've even gotten started.

People like you crop up in my life a lot. I already know what you're saying, you have a whole shelf crammed full of big fat chapter books by Tom Clancy and a large number of scholarly references with different doctrinal edits of the Bible in English, maybe a classical language or two for show, although you hid the copy of Alan Bloom, who was too liberal for you.

Don't remind me, I already know. You have this huge giant well-rounded well-educated mind and are an expert on non-profit corporations of Bible learners in the United States. You don't recognize other countries.

Due to my geographical setting and overseas educational pursuits as well as former bouts of employment (work is the curse of the drinking class) I'm way way way way way more worldly than you are, and I study international treaty law instead of restricting myself solely to the civil war and steel milling for the National Rifle Association's annual poster model fundraising contest. You DON'T recognize other countries! So sorry, I'm from this other country and I honestly don't recognize other churches, copesthetic?

My Navy Hymn is different than your Navy Hymn. That's all it is.

Next time you want to make a miserable attempt at insulting someone, you might want to check their country first. You might also want to proofread your posts... with a dictionary close by; your spelling needs a lot of help.

 

[Magenta]

Isaih is the major prophet whose primary message is the description of the character of the Messiah
as a man, what he will be like. It is the scroll from which a Bat Mitzvah candidate reads to show that
he is ready for confirmation as a Jew. Jesus must have been referring to this one specifically because
he was teaching a Jewish person who should have known that and would have been fully expected
to know that. He had said at His own Bat Mitzvah, after reading this scroll, that He fulfilled the character
of the Messiah described in Isaiah. That was expected, that's what a Bat Mitzvah is, it's conformation
that the Hebrew scholar understands the nature of the person who will save Israel and means to
internalize that character and imitate that character, being like that, following those laws, and
so on. Bat Mitzvah is the same as Candlemas in Christianity.

Eh? That was not Jesus' Bar Mitzvah. That's not even in Scripture. And a Bat Mitzvah is for the female.

Jesus was a fully grown man when He read that Isaiah Scroll in the temple.
They tried to kill Him shortly afterwards.

 

[Magenta]

Luke 4:18-19

 

[hornetguy]

hello fundaamental,

I probably have missed somehow, could you refer me to the post where you describe the prophecy you received, also i would like to know, did GOD ask you to prophecy to people?. In honesty in do not understand this thread.

thank you.

Don't worry.... most of us don't understand him, either.... you're in good company.

 

[Magenta]

I might dismiss it if it appeared only once, but "Bat Mitzvah" is for girls; "Bar Mitzvah" is for boys. "Bar" is son of; "Bat" is daughter of.

A Bar Mitzvah, as least in modern Jewish culture, is a coming-of-age celebration where the boy demonstrates
that he knows enough of the old covenant to function as an adult within the mores of Jewish society.

Candlemas? Never heard of it.

Not to mention the FACT that Jesus' Bar Mitzvah is not recorded at all in Scripture, and
Flannery has been corrected on this once already, but continues to repeat his error.

 

[posthuman]

People like you crop up in my life a lot. I already know what you're saying, you have a whole shelf crammed full of big fat chapter books by Tom Clancy and a large number of scholarly references with different doctrinal edits of the Bible in English, maybe a classical language or two for show, although you hid the copy of Alan Bloom, who was too liberal for you.

My bookshelves are full of math textbooks,
and i love my brother Dino

 

[posthuman]

Bat Mitzvah is the same as Candlemas in Christianity.

if i'm not mistaken candlemas celebrates Mary finishing the days of her purification after having Jesus, her son.
per Leviticus 12 this is 33 days after He is born.

far be it from me to pretend i know Jewish custom but i do know that 33 days old is not the age of bar mitzvah.

 

[Flannery]

if i'm not mistaken candlemas celebrates Mary finishing the days of her purification after having Jesus, her son.
per Leviticus 12 this is 33 days after He is born.

far be it from me to pretend i know Jewish custom but i do know that 33 days old is not the age of bar mitzvah.

You are mistaken.

 

[posthuman]

You are mistaken.

interesting that the internet is similarly mistaken.

 

[Flannery]

interesting that the internet is similarly mistaken.

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You're a Wikimedia Commons expert on all things well known to be a total secret because totally false? OOOOOOOHHHHHH! Introduce me to Edward Snowden, I cant WAIT to see exactly how to program a little TV set to record what's been all over CNN 24 hours a day seven days a week for five years, little boy.

 

[posthuman]

@Flannery it is not possible that Luke 2 is Jesus's Bar mitzvah because Luke 2:22 specifies when this takes place and Leviticus 12 says it is 33 days after birth.

It is also not possible that Luke 4 is Jesus's Bar mitzvah because Luke 3:23 puts His age at 'about 30'

 

[posthuman]

You're a Wikimedia Commons expert on all things well known to be a total secret because totally false? OOOOOOOHHHHHH! Introduce me to Edward Snowden, I cant WAIT to see exactly how to program a little TV set to record what's been all over CNN 24 hours a day seven days a week for five years, little boy.

well i mean give me an orthodox church page that says differently?

i don't actually watch TV.

i am your brother not your enemy.

 

[Magenta]

if i'm not mistaken candlemas celebrates Mary finishing the days of her purification
after having Jesus, her son.per Leviticus 12 this is 33 days after He is born.

far be it from me to pretend i know Jewish custom but i do know that 33 days old is not the age of bar mitzvah.

Leviticus 12
1 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to
a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period.
3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. 4 Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to
be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the
days of her purification are over. 5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will
be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding.


6 “‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the
entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for
a sin offering. 7 He shall offer them before the Lord to make atonement for her, and then she will be
ceremonially clean from her flow of blood.

“‘These are the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl. 8 But if she cannot
afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the
other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.’”

 

[posthuman]

welcome to the forums BTW @Flannery

i am post, resident mathematician.

Not particularly active lately but i come around sometimes, and i promise i never mean harm

=]

 

[Magenta]

well i mean give me an orthodox church page that says differently?

Candlemas Day is another name for the feast of the Presentation of the Lord. Forty days after His birth,
Mary and Joseph brought Jesus to the temple for the rites of purification and dedication as prescribed
by the Torah. According to the Book of Leviticus (12:1-4), when a woman bore a male child, she was
considered “unclean” for seven days. On the eighth day, the boy was circumcised. The mother continued
to stay at home for 33 days for her blood to be purified. After the 40 days, the mother and the father came
to the temple for the rite of purification, which included the offering of a sacrifice — a lamb for a holocaust
(burnt offering) and a pigeon or turtledove for a sin offering, or for a poor couple who could not afford a lamb,
two pigeons or two turtledoves. Note Joseph and Mary made the offering of the poor (Lk 2:24).

from catholicstraightanswers.com/

 

[posthuman]

You're a Wikimedia Commons expert on all things well known to be a total secret because totally false? OOOOOOOHHHHHH! Introduce me to Edward Snowden, I cant WAIT to see exactly how to program a little TV set to record what's been all over CNN 24 hours a day seven days a week for five years, little boy.

i understand you are angry
the world sucks.

but we are all here because we love Jesus and are trying to increase in knowledge of God.
we are on the same page. we just suck at people skills generally.

give grace, and i hope everyone else here does too - we are not supposed to be biting and devouring each other.

 

[posthuman]

Candlemas Day is another name for the feast of the Presentation of the Lord. Forty days after His birth,
Mary and Joseph brought Jesus to the temple for the rites of purification and dedication as prescribed
by the Torah. According to the Book of Leviticus (12:1-4), when a woman bore a male child, she was
considered “unclean” for seven days. On the eighth day, the boy was circumcised. The mother continued
to stay at home for 33 days for her blood to be purified. After the 40 days, the mother and the father came
to the temple for the rite of purification, which included the offering of a sacrifice — a lamb for a holocaust
(burnt offering) and a pigeon or turtledove for a sin offering, or for a poor couple who could not afford a lamb,
two pigeons or two turtledoves. Note Joseph and Mary made the offering of the poor (Lk 2:24).

from catholicstraightanswers.com/

thanks, i originally misread this -

Leviticus 12:3-4
And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. She shall then continue in the blood of [her] purification thirty-three days. She shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary until the days of her purification are fulfilled.

It makes sense the 33 days starts on the 8th day, so a total of 40 days from birth to Luke 2

my bad

And cool, the Catholic Church and the scripture corroborate the wiki entry so maybe i wasn't stupid for citing it after all haha

 

[Magenta]

i understand you are angry
the world sucks.

but we are all here because we love Jesus and are trying to increase in knowledge of God.
we are on the same page. we just suck at people skills generally.

give grace, and i hope everyone else here does too - we are not supposed to be biting and devouring each other.

Galatians 5:14-15~ The entire law is fulfilled in a single decree: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
But if you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out, or you will be consumed by one another.

 

[posthuman]

her,

You are mistaken.

Thank you -

i admit i was indeed mistaken: Candlemas, celebrated Feb 2 or so, is 40 days after Christmas, not 33.

it is not 13-16 years after Christmas tho. on that point i believe i am still correct.