MYSTERY, BABYLON

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eternally-gratefull

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Well, at least you admit that Jerusalem IS THE WOMAN who is drunk with the blood of the saints!

Its the great whore.

Keep playing EG. Nearly there now.
Never denied it.

And I am far far away from amelinialism or believing jerusalem is the whore.
 
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#82
What totally absurd reasoning. lolz.

Course she can play the harlot if she is the harlot.
No she was not the harlot. The system she was dabbling in was the harlot. She was playing in this system of the gentiles. with their gods. Talk about absurd!! Even you should know this!

Who else can play the harlot? Who else was betrothed to God in the OT?

one who betrothed to someone plays the harlot by taking a false wife and sleeping with them in place of the real wife. He is not the harlot. the one he sleeps with is.


[/quote]You can try and pin the babylonian systems roots on paganry all you want. [/quote]

I am forced to. It is what babylon was. It is what the readers would have seen. I can't twist the meaning of a word to suit my fancies like some people.


And its true, the Hebrews picked up loads of pagan stuff to weave into Gods law. BUT pagans were never GODS BRIDE! They cant be the harlot.
of course pegans were not the true bride. They were acting as the false bride and Israel was sleeping with her. A prostitute is not a true wife either. she is the fake wife. and when a husband "plays the harlot" he is taking the prostitute in place of the wife. Try learning what a harlot is. You might well learn something.

EOC is a harlot
RCC is a harlot
Christian zionism is a harlot.
Charismatism is a harlot

COZ THEY ALL CHEAT ON GOD.

And TALMUDIC JUDAISM is the MOTHER of all harlots coz they were the FIRST to cheat on God.

All the daughter harlots come from HER!
A harlot is not the one who cheats. A harlot is the one who gets the husband to cheat. Come on now man,. Even you should know this! A harlot is a FALSE BRIDE WHO ACTS LIKE THE BRIDE AND TRIES TO TAKE HER PLACE
 
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#83
The city represents the fornicators who lived there in Johns time.

Now IMPOSTERS of fornicators live there who are 100 times worse. And peeps think they are the real Jews and 'Israel'.

Go figger.
fornicators huh? Wow, Jesus said unless our righteousness exceds that of the phariusees we have no hope. Even he declared according to the law they were the most righteous people on earth. The NT is full of apostles condemning jews not for harlotry, but trying to add OT law given by God to the gospel. Do you study the NT much? Or just the books which support your theory. I fond no place where Israel or jews where chastened for harlotry. Their sin was placing law over grace.
 
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#84
So your saying the destruction of Jeru in 70AD was not a result of Gods judgement on that city?

Did Jesus prophesy it?
what does that have to do with daniels prophesy being fuliflled and God being finished with jerusalem?
 
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#85
When I first looked up 'whore of Babylon' on wikipedia it listed the RCC and Jerusalem as the most common opinions.

Last year Jerusalem disappeared from that webpage.

Why do you think that is?

The reason you never heard about Jeru as the whore is because the woman keeps herself WELL HIDDEN.

Would you expect anything less?
actually I look at scriptural truth. the lawless one will not be revieled until there is a great falling away. Even if the rapture does not take place. The amount of "true christians on earth will be very few after this falling away. so yes it owuld be a mystery if the largest church people follow and think is the true bride, who is also able to give power to the beast, who she happens to live in, and support him is destroyed

I still don't know what your looking at!
 
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#86
that must be why we see the RCC protecting its self with thought crime laws and ya?

...or no?

I must've missed where the ADL made it illegal to critisize Rome or the Catholics.

EG, the world DOES NOT cherish the RCC. But look how many peeps ESPECIALLY Christians bow down to, and DEFEND JUDAISM and the terrorist state of israeHELL.
I see alot of people defending the roman church. I see thousands upon thousands go to the the pope wherever he goes. I see nations like Spain and South america who are purely catholic I see the catholic church with ambasadors to countries, including the US. etc etc. You must not get out much
 
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#87
Ya you dont like comparing stuff JESUS and the APOSTLES said about the endtimes with revelation do you? Better to protect the "jews" by reaching back and cherry picking obscure ancient prophecy to the hebrews.Coz you dig all the carnal worldly stuff!

Absurd, rev is full of HEBREW imagery.

the book of HEBREWS was just for a tiny handful of folks was it?
let see. How many books were written to how many gentile churches? Thanks. thats what I thought. If there were alot of jews who were saved. You would think their would be alot in jerusalem, since that was their home state. But jerusalem was destroyed because there were so many saved jews in it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#88
you have to learn to LEARN...and stop thinking you got it all worked out already. Bit of humility wouldnt go amiss.

Remeber you've been involved in INSTITUTIONS.

They do brainwashing there ya know?
Seems you have also. Lucky thing is I have studied this in great detail. Oh, And I also know what a harlot is. It is the false bride the betrothed sleeps with. Not the betrothed itself . Thank you!
 

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The Bible describes a modern version of Babylon at the end of times. Here is what I know, from what is going on in the world today.....

The whole world we live in is a lie. Believe it. God did warn us.


1 - US Government/Illuminati (Freemason)
- AKA FIRST BEAST

The Illuminati are the real people in charge of America. Every president was and currently is part of this secret society. The Illuminati's goal from day one was to take over the world. They managed to make their way into the government (because they owned the private banks) and now they own the government. They are the ones that secretly rule the world (Rockefeller & Bilderberg Group being 2 of the 13 blood lines of this secret society) while having a figure head (Obama) as the person we see as our president. Their goal has always been this New world order/one world government. Evidence shows that the United States of America was chosen to lead the world into this kingdom of Antichrist, and Washington, D.C was to be it's capital. Freemasonry assumed the leadership of the New World Order in 1782. The street design in Government Center in Washington, D.C, has been cunningly laid out in such a manner that certain Luciferic symbols are depicted by the streets, cul-de-sacs and rotaries. This design was created by a Masonic architect in 1791, after Freemasons established the New World Order. The white house was built perfectly by Freemasons. Not to mention, the statue of Liberty (built by French Freemason) which is the Goddess Liberta in the guise of Goddess Ishtar (from Babylon!) and the torch represents Lucifer/the one of light... the obelisk is a phallic symbol from Babylon! I could go on... a lot of Pagan buildings in America, particularly DC.


2 - THE POPE
- AKA SECOND BEAST

Over time, the popes introduced more Pagan traditions into the church, straight from Babylon! ("two horned mitre" is worn by popes, the same as worn by Dagon/Nimrod/Pagan Fish God.... but there are hundreds of Pagan things in Catholic church) The Pope is a member of the Illuminati. The Illuminati formally decided in early 1991 that their top religious leader of the New World Order Religion -- United Religions -- was to be the Pope, whomever he was at the time. Look up the Jesuits/black popes, who are in control of the Vatican but are never seen as they work behind the scenes. Scary stuff. They are all involved in this witchcraft/Illuminati/secret society.
Think about it though - people see the pope like a lamb. They trust him and would never suspect anything wrong going on at all. He is the figure head for this one world religion. And he is already taking his role seriously, as he currently travels around the world trying to unite all religions as one (ECUMENICAL MOVEMENT), stating that it's what God would want. Actually, no - God stated several times in the bible that we are to not join with those who follow false doctrines of man. We are also called to rebuke and correct others when necessary.



(The world will always have a lot of false prophets and teachers, but... the two mentioned in Revelation in a major way will be..........)
ANTICHRIST (AKA FIRST BEAST) - AND A FALSE PROPHET (AKA SECOND BEAST)
THESE TWO BEASTS WILL COME TOGETHER AND WILL WORK TOGETHER.


SECOND BEAST
Revelation 13:11-12: "Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (This is the SECOND BEAST - a religious leader who will actively support the activities of Antichrist. Notice, this Scripture says exactly that. The False Prophet will exercise the same occult power as the First Beast [Antichrist], and he uses this power to convince the peoples of the world to worship Antichrist) - Notice also the reference to a lamb like appearance (obviously people trust a lamb over a wolf). Second point - only Jesus was referred to as the lamb of God - the ultimate sacrifice! So - this second beast will be a counterfeit of Christianity. (Catholicism claims to be Christian. Sorry, but the Catholic church are a counterfeit).


FIRST BEAST
Revelation 13:2: "
The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority" (This is the first beast/Anti Christ - He is given authority and a throne) 5-7: "And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation" (Obama has mocked the bible several times, is anti Christians, does not want US to be a Christian nation, banned prayer in Whitehouse) (42 months sounds like a presidency term!!)


ONE GIVES POWER TO THE OTHER! THE FIRST BEAST GIVES AUTHORITY TO THE SECOND!!

Illuminati/US Government and The Pope/Religious Leader ooze all things Babylon!



This may be a bit out there for anyone who hasn't researched much into it, but sharing it anyway.....

The 9/11 attack was put into action by the Illuminati, not Al Quaeda. Al Quaeda was a fake group created by CIA in order to cover up what they were really doing. The US government/Illuminati were responsible for the 9/11 attack. There were even explosives placed around the building before the plane crashed (google for images, as you'll see them). A plane could not cause the complete collapse that we all saw. What's more, the planes crashed in front of the Pagan Statue of Liberty/the Babylonian Goddess, Ishtar (with a torch representing Lucifer). Research Pagan sacrifices. They were not considered sacrifices unless done in front of a Pagan Statue! That way they would be acknowledged to their Pagan Gods. Their human sacrifices MUST be by FIRE. The 9/11 attack was an Illuminati sacrifice!

The Illuminati stick to their bloodlines when taking on members and turn a lot of people away. Noone really makes it to the top (top stage of the 'all seeing eye' pyramid) so they become hooked with intrigue, and unaware of what they're in. Those at the top levels know exactly the goal. Did you know - they have accepted a number of Celebrities into the Illuminati group. The Illuminati owns several record companies, so a lot of influence with music and tv when it comes to exposing violence etc.

Celebrities who were/are in Illuminati Group: Amy Whinehouse, Heath Ledger, Lady Gaga, Curt Cobain, Jay Z, Beyonce, 50 cent, Tyra Banks, to name just a few..... Look for the Illuminati hand symbols, they're all around!
 

Katy-follower

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P.S....


BOOK OF DANIEL

King Nebuchadnezzar (of Babylon, 625-539BC) had a dream of a MAN OF METAL. Daniel translated.


MAN OF METAL
(represents 5 kingdoms that will rule)

Head of Gold (represents Babylon/King Nebuchadnezzar at the current time of his dream)
Chest & Arms of Silver (Medo Persia)
Waist & Thighs of Bronze (Greece)
Legs of Iron (ROME - AS STRONG AS IRON)
Feet Partly of Iron & Clay (DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE - PARTLY STRONG & PARTLY BRITTLE)


ROME IS THE FINAL KINGDOM!
 
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Strangelove is correct in comparing Rev and Daniel for they tell the same story.The Beast in Rev 13:1-3 has all of the parts of the four beasts in daniel 7 :1-7 Lion (1 head), Bear (having 1 head) Lepord having 4 heads, 4th beast having one head Makes the seven heads on the beast having all their features in Rev . However when the term mothers of harlots is used here in Rev 17: 5 it is talking about the Roman Church we know this because the seven heads are mountains and Rome is the only religious entity to sit on 7 mountains, not to mention what any encyclopedia will tell you confirming Dan prophecy in chapt 8
Even if the 7 mountains thing was not metaphoric...

Does Jerusalem sit on 7 mountains?
 
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#92
the Europian Ecconomic Comunity is this Beast, any country that wishes to join must sign the treatise of Rome, These 10 nations control 1/4 of the nations on earth through their alliances. And the Euro has surpassed the dollar. Eventually they will have pwer to control buying and selling Rev13:17
Think bigger. Who controls world finance?

The European community doesnt work in a vacuum.
 
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We know that these events will take place in Jerusalem after the third temple is built because we see that the antichrist will stand in the holy temple and magnify himself as God. Dan 8:10-13 Also Zech 14:1-4 shows that when Jesus returns to destroy the beast he will descend on the mount of Olives before Jerusalem on the east
Zech 14 says nothing about Jesus descending onto the mount of olives.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#94
Zech 14 says nothing about Jesus descending onto the mount of olives.
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,

And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.

4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
 
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(Leviticus 21:7) They shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane; neither shall they take a woman put away from her husband: for he is holy unto his God.

To play the whore - H2181
זנה
zânâh
zaw-naw'
A primitive root (highly fed and therefore wanton); to commit adultery (usually of the female, and less often of simple forniciation, rarely of involuntary ravishment); figuratively to commit idolatry (the Jewish people being regarded as the spouse of Jehovah): - (cause to) commit fornication, X continually, X great, (be an, play the) harlot, (cause to be, play the) whore, (commit, fall to) whoredom, (cause to) go a-whoring, whorish.
 
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1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,

And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.

4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
Like I said, zero in there about Jesus descending to the mount of olives.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#97
Like I said, zero in there about Jesus descending to the mount of olives.
so tell us. Who is the Lord who comes and lands his feet on the mount of olives and splits it in two? Is it the father? The HS? who is it??
 
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#98
(Leviticus 21:7) They shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane; neither shall they take a woman put away from her husband: for he is holy unto his God.

To play the whore - H2181
זנה
zânâh
zaw-naw'
A primitive root (highly fed and therefore wanton); to commit adultery (usually of the female, and less often of simple forniciation, rarely of involuntary ravishment); figuratively to commit idolatry (the Jewish people being regarded as the spouse of Jehovah): - (cause to) commit fornication, X continually, X great, (be an, play the) harlot, (cause to be, play the) whore, (commit, fall to) whoredom, (cause to) go a-whoring, whorish.
Thanks, You just proved my point.

to PLAY the whore is to commit adultry. THE WHORE is the woman you commited adultry with.

Isreal. represented as the one cheating, She Commited adultry by sleeping with the harlot. Who is the whore. Israel was NOT THE WHORE. She slept with the WHORE.

next???
 
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Grandpa. Anything against God has names, we know that, and everything FOR GOD also has names, the differance is in the KING! You see anything unholy is not of God, and anything holy is Holy BECAUSE of God.

So God refers to the MYSTERY.... Now here is the answer.... You see many say God work in mysterious ways! They already doom themselves to be part of Babylon the great (GREAT FALSE TEACHINGS) No matter in what form the false teachings come they make up part of the GREAT NUMBER OF THE LOST! Harlots, and Whoring also is refered to as the Spirit of the Anti-Christ. Also false teachings. It is huge!

Look at it this way... The first activity of evil was the snake telling a lie... God said... Thou shalt surely die... Satan said... Thou shalt surely NOT die.... He added one word, and the lie and the Truth were at war! This war is still raging on, the lie and the Truth are still at war. Even right here in CC!

Babylon the great, is the LIE! And the Lie wins way more than the Truth, but the FEW that does not fall for this Mother of Harlots, they are in the house of the Lord! the Body of Christ, that will come for HIS BRIDE (A VIRGIN) Not a whore or a mother of harlots... A VIRGIN! Untouched by the mighty Babylon. Locked and sealed in Truth, in the Body of Christ! The True Church, where all the leaven are removed, and the dough is PURE!

I hope this helps you understand how Babylon is the LIE!
 
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so tell us. Who is the Lord who comes and lands his feet on the mount of olives and splits it in two? Is it the father? The HS? who is it??
The issue is not WHO, the issue is you changing the words of scripture to suit your dispology.

Where does it say His feet will LAND?