Sure does seem that way. Crickets since I asked for some scripture to back up their "claim". Which I don't really like saying claim because they really make no definitive statements or case, they just like to tear down what others say that they disagree with, yet never build a case for their views.
How can you ask for "any sculpture that says we are born slaves of sin", then seem to imply that we are born sinless. Really? I always thought that being born fallen was Christian 101. That because of the fall of Adam we are ALL born into the fallen state, with no hope of ever being able to save ourselves from it. So it kind of baffles me to find people disagreeing with this fact, demanding scripture that says these things a specific way while never even offering a single scripture that would back up the view they suggest, yet don't seem to really proclaim with confidence, that men are born sinless, that we start life in 100% tip top shape as we were created to be. Not one. So fast to jump in and teach others why they're wrong, but can't be bothered to teach why you're right. Just another perspective to think about.
Romans 9 says that the wrestling Esau and Jacob in the womb had not yet done nothing either good or evil. Therefore, they were neither do-gooders nor sinners. They were innocent. However, they were both saints, i.e. set apart for God's use once born. Now God does not automatically degenerate an innocent child, one who has done no good or evil in the womb, into a baby who automatically does evil once the umbilical cord is cut. A born-innocent child eventually does go astray from what it were in the womb, telling lies, once it understands via its conscience that lying is wrong and yet chooses to do so anyway. But both in the womb and after its birth God intends a child to learn to walk with Him and serve Him as it matures. It is set apart by God for God's service.
So, Romans 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 11
For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth,
And, Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged
from the womb (
M-ReKheM, not
L-ReKheM) : they go astray
from the belly (
M-BeTeN, not
L-BeTeN), speaking lies. (Note: the prepositional prefix is
M- i.e. from; not
L- i.e. at/for: it does not say "
at the womb/belly (
L-ReKhem/
L-BeTeN)", but "
from/since the womb" (
M-ReKhem/
M-BeTeN), disprove your view. We are not conceived or born
sinners/ evil-doers/ wicked. We are born
innocent saints. We become guilty sinners when we first sin.