Isn't it that the commandments of God is for everybody?

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Godsgood

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EPHESIANS 5:22-23

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
 

Hakawaka

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Yes and no. Commandments of God are for everybody.

But not every single commandment of God applies to YOU specifically, necessarily. For example, the commandments given to wives dont apply to husbands and vice versa. Children are given different commandments as well, to obey and respect their parents.
In the old covenant some laws were given only to the levites, not for the rest of Israel. There are also certain commandments given to rich people which if you aren't wealthy would not apply to you.

There are some commandments in the Bible that are situational, for example Noah is told to build an Ark, but that does not apply to us obviously since there will never be another flood like that, as God promised.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Yeah, I think so.... This is the number one reason why I'm not married, lol! :giggle:




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Everlasting-Grace

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Do you understand this verse. This verse is not making the husband a dictator
 

Bruce_Leiter

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EPHESIANS 5:22-23

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
That commandment is for everyone, but what about the following verse calling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church and verse 20, where we're all called to submit to each other? As much as husbands serve the needs of their wives, God raises them up to provide direction for the family in all the big decisions. That biblical teaching is Paul's answer to unbiblical male domination and present-day individualism that often tears marriages apart.
 

Dino246

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EPHESIANS 5:22-23

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
If you are going to treat this passage as a "command", at least start where the passage starts:

21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
 
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EPHESIANS 5:22-23

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
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If we rely on letters then we will use our own intellect to understand the commandment.

But God, gave us a warning not to use our own understanding when it comes to God and The Words of God otherwise we don't trust God.
PROVERBS 3:5
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Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

If this is what God's want then we will ask him Who are the Wives and Who are the husbands?

How God answer the question? Yes he will. Through his words (John 1:1 The Word was God) by Divine Revelation.
JOHN 1:1
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Since Ephesians 5:22-23 is in New Testament in the time of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Then the question will be addressed to our Lord Jesus Christ also.

How Jesus answer the question.
Through Jesus words by Divine Revelation.
Because Jesus is the word of God which is written in the book.
REVELATION 19:13
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And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The WORD OF GOD.

And no other book where we can find the word of Jesus but in the Holy Bible alone.
HEBREWS 10:7
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
 

Dino246

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If we rely on letters then we will use our own intellect to understand the commandment.

But God, gave us a warning not to use our own understanding when it comes to God and The Words of God otherwise we don't trust God.
PROVERBS 3:5
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Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

If this is what God's want then we will ask him Who are the Wives and Who are the husbands?

How God answer the question? Yes he will. Through his words (John 1:1 The Word was God) by Divine Revelation.
JOHN 1:1
1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Since Ephesians 5:22-23 is in New Testament in the time of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Then the question will be addressed to our Lord Jesus Christ also.

How Jesus answer the question.
Through Jesus words by Divine Revelation.
Because Jesus is the word of God which is written in the book.
REVELATION 19:13
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And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The WORD OF GOD.

And no other book where we can find the word of Jesus but in the Holy Bible alone.
HEBREWS 10:7
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
And the angel on his right whispereth unto him, "Thou wouldst be wise to speak plainly," but the deceiver on his left sayeth loudly unto him, "Thou shalt make thy reason and diction most convoluted, that thy readers may thinkest thou wise and learned." And desiring to appear wise and learned, he hearkened unto the latter and spake thusly.
 
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And the angel on his right whispereth unto him, "Thou wouldst be wise to speak plainly," but the deceiver on his left sayeth loudly unto him, "Thou shalt make thy reason and diction most convoluted, that thy readers may thinkest thou wise and learned." And desiring to appear wise and learned, he hearkened unto the latter and spake thusly.
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The explanation on the post (Ephesians 5:22-23) are by means of verses or the word of God.
This is a revelation from God.
Who can refute?

Any man is entitled in his own opinion because we are given a freewill to accept or ignore it, but no one can deny The Truth.
 
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The explanation on the post (Ephesians 5:22-23) are by means of verses or the word of God.
This is a revelation from God.
Who can refute?

Any man is entitled in his own opinion because we are given a freewill to accept or ignore it, but no one can deny The Truth.
It's not a matter of "refuting"... at this point. To refute your argument, I'd have to know what you're attempting to say. When you try to connect passages of Scripture that are not otherwise connected, you are left with a mess that doesn't mean anything. You might think there's a connection, but given that you haven't actually provided any explanation other than the quoted verses, it's unlikely that anyone else knows what you're trying to say. Once I understand what you're saying, then I will determine whether it warrants a refutation.

As for your other comment, a disjointed illogical argument that happens to use Scripture is not "revelation from God".
 

Webers.Home

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Matt 19:4-6 . . Have you not read? He who made them at the beginning made
them male and female and said: For this reason a man shall leave his father and
mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So then,
they are no longer two but one flesh.


Women in one flesh with a man doesn't make them equal to a man any more than
Christians in one Spirit with Christ makes them equal to Christ.


1Cor 11:3 . . But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ;
and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


That particular rule has little to do with gender when it's mostly about origin and
primogeniture.


The man was created first, and that directly from the earth's soil; whereas the
woman was constructed with material taken from the man's body. In other words:
the woman was the flip side of the same coin rather than a coin of her own. Had
Eve been constructed directly from the earth's soil she would've been Adam's equal
but coming from his body made him the senior of the two on the one coin and she
the junior, viz: the man and the woman weren't siblings: their relationship was
more along the lines of a father and daughter; and to my knowledge; daughters are
never equal to their daddy.


There's way too many Christians out there ready to drag Paul into a pie fight with
himself by countering 1Cor 11:3 with Gal 3:26-28, to wit:


"You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were
baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor
Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."


Yes, men and women lose their distinctions in Christ, but not in normal life.

For example Jesus and God are unified, yet there is a hierarchy in the Divinity
because the head of Christ is God. In like manner, men and women are unified in
Christ, yet there remains a hierarchy in humanity because the man is the head of
the woman.


NOTE: Beware becoming militant about this because it's neither a gender issue, an
intelligence issue, a competency issue, a strength issue, or a maturity issue. The
hierarchy within humanity is based primarily upon origin and primogeniture. (1Tim
2:13)
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