no no one on the thread has posted they believe in antinomianism
but some believe in sinless perfection though they admit they have not achieved it they are dragging that yoke and placing it on as many willing sufferers and pietistic people they can rope in. Some has stated that Jesus can't save them fully until they are perfectly sinless like Jesus, Jesus will then be able to completely control them and replace their spirit with the HOLY SPIRIT and use their flesh. (kind of creepy)
some keep company with each other and don't realize that the one sitting next to them believe such things but will jump down the throat of anyone who questions their buddies beliefs even though they are not quite sure they really know their buddies beliefs but since they are agreeing with them they must be right.
Alright Ramon it is not CHRISTIANS that must DIE for they are not TRUE CHRISTIAN until they are RAISED AGAIN to LIFE in Christ. (they only claim the name and seek to have salvation without submitting to the LORDSHIP of Christ)
Sinners must die, Flesh, sin, lust of the world, pride of life, lust of the eye, hatred, contempt, etc must all die, be nailed ot the Cross and buried.
now lets move on and shake free the chains of lies, death and illusions.
lets talk about ABIDING in Christ, RAISING with Him, Learning to WALK, be mature and bear Good Fruit through Diligently adding to FAITH, perserverence, Knowledge, Self-control, Brotherly KINDNESS, and LOVE
. And when we have grown mature and destroyed our own strongholds of darkness that war against the knowledge of God and have made EVERY thought captive to Christ,
let us pick up our cross and either plant seeds by speaking God's words into the lives of the lost, watering and comforting the new seedlings, or showing the mature how to harvest and plant God's Word and Love into the lives of others in this world. (sometimes out of Faith God asks us to do this for love for others even when we ourselves feel unready or unworthy we are told to not measure our worth by what we do but look to Jesus and recognize what HE has already done)
why do people want to rush and do things so out of order?
if you put a seedling in the hot sun with no water, will it last? IF the tree has matured and undergo the same conditions will it perish?