Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?

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Aaron56

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Eunuchs are men, but don't have sex organs. Those angels had the form of men, but weren't and never were men like eunuchs
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You would think, if fallen angels really wanted to make a fuss, that they would mess with livestock. But the rule of creation “having a seed within itself“ cannot be altered. That’s why we see neither dickens or chucks in the barnyard.
 
Magenta

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Aaron56 said:
You would think, if fallen angels really wanted to make a fuss, that they would mess with livestock. But the rule of creation “having a seed within itself“ cannot be altered. That’s why we see neither dickens or chucks in the barnyard.
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Mind you, Chuck Dickens is a different creature entirely...
 
Dino246

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Aaron56 said:
Don’t make the mistake of thinking the promise is tide to anything physical. Do you recall Rahab’s and Ruth‘s declarations? Read them and you will hear the sound of promise.
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Methinks you're getting far enough off topic that discussing this sub-topic further would be hijacking. ;)
 
Dino246

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stilllearning said:
As well as God forbid Israel from taking possession of certain lands of Edom, Moab, and Ammon. Because they had displaced giants in that area and the Lord gave the land to them for doing so to giants.

Deuteronomy 2

4And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:
5Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.

8And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Eziongaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab.
9And the LORD said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.
10The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims;
11Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.
12The Horims also dwelt in Seir beforetime; but the children of Esau succeeded them, when they had destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which the LORD gave unto them

16So it came to pass, when all the men of war were consumed and dead from among the people,
17That the LORD spake unto me, saying,
18Thou art to pass over through Ar, the coast of Moab, this day:
19And when thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession.
20(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
21A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:
22As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day:
23And the Avims which dwelt in Hazerim, even unto Azzah, the Caphtorims, which came forth out of Caphtor, destroyed them, and dwelt in their stead.)
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With respect, there is nothing in those passages suggesting that God gave them the lands because they defeated the giants formerly living there. Be careful not to attribute causation where none exists. :)
 
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Anyways, the English Genesis 6:1 states humankind began having DAUGHTERS.

How did everyone else get born without daughters becoming women?
The English translation is funny sometimes.

But let's use how it is written.
What is the significance of having DAUGHTERS relate to Nephilim?

In the Hebrew Torah it's significant for the DIVINE BEINGS.

It would not be significant to other human men. Only to the DIVINE BEINGS.
 
Dino246

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John146 said:
And his word to believe.
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Since God says absolutely nothing about the inherent gender of angels (appearance is a different thing) and nothing about sexual organs of angels, you would do well to limit the scope of your "belief" accordingly.
 
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Dino246 said:
Shhh... let's not force people to admit there's nothing in Scripture about it! ;)
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They ain’t playing pat-a-cakes in this passage.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
 
Dino246

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lrs68 said:
Anyways, the English Genesis 6:1 states humankind began having DAUGHTERS.

How did everyone else get born without daughters becoming women?
The English translation is funny sometimes.

But let's use how it is written.
What is the significance of having DAUGHTERS relate to Nephilim?

In the Hebrew Torah it's significant for the DIVINE BEINGS.

It would not be significant to other human men. Only to the DIVINE BEINGS.
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Well put.

People want Scripture to explain everything. It doesn't. This passage was likely more clear to people 2-3000 years ago than it is today, but we also need to set aside the anti-supernatural bias we have and deal with the Scripture as it was written, not how we think it should have been written. :)
 
Dino246

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John146 said:
They ain’t playing pat-a-cakes in this passage.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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Yup. Nothing about angels there either. Stick to the topic.
 
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